It is not always as easy as ABC takes the bigger game and ESPN gets the lesser. ABC and ESPN have separate broadcasting deals with different conferences. For instance, ESPN has rights to SEC in football, which ABC does not. ESPN only has rights to a small number of PAC 10 games per year, while ABC has PAC 10 games every week. Just because ESPN and ABC act as 1 unit, does not mean they share rights to all games. The same goes in basketball. If ABC wanted to air a primetime package of basketball they would have to acquire additional rights to air these games. They have a very limited rights deal currently and only air at most 1 game per week, and some weeks air no games.
Are you sure about that AL, because ABC doesn't have a sports department anymore? I guess ABC sports legally exists but ESPN producers all of ABC's sports programming. It might depend on when the contracts with various leagues were signed. Some of the older contracts may have originally been with ABC Sports. Obviously, any new contracts with the leagues themselves probably specify whether a particular game could be moved from Network to cable TV or vice versa. For example, obviously Disney couldn't just move MNF back to ABC without concent of the NFL.
Originally posted by AL: By the way, can anyone name a show that has been such a success in the summer, and could not do well other times of the year, only to return in the summer to do well? I might be wrong, but I don't think there is an example. And Big Brother does not count, because it has never done particularly well in the summer.
Last Comic Standing. Two successful summer runs, bombed in fall to the point of cancellation, returned a couple years later for two more successful summer runs.
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It is not always as easy as ABC takes the bigger game and ESPN gets the lesser. ABC and ESPN have separate broadcasting deals with different conferences. For instance, ESPN has rights to SEC in football, which ABC does not. ESPN only has rights to a small number of PAC 10 games per year, while ABC has PAC 10 games every week. Just because ESPN and ABC act as 1 unit, does not mean they share rights to all games. The same goes in basketball. If ABC wanted to air a primetime package of basketball they would have to acquire additional rights to air these games. They have a very limited rights deal currently and only air at most 1 game per week, and some weeks air no games.
Are you sure about that AL, because ABC doesn't have a sports department anymore? I guess ABC sports legally exists but ESPN producers all of ABC's sports programming. It might depend on when the contracts with various leagues were signed. Some of the older contracts may have originally been with ABC Sports. Obviously, any new contracts with the leagues themselves probably specify whether a particular game could be moved from Network to cable TV or vice versa. For example, obviously Disney couldn't just move MNF back to ABC without concent of the NFL.
ESPN produces all of the content for ABC. True, ABC Sports does not exist any more. But all TV deals are done separately for broadcast channel vs cable deal. For instance, just because ESPN has rights to MLB on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights does not mean they could just move these games to ABC if they wanted. ESPN has rights to SEC basketball and football, but on the broadcast side CBS has those rights, so ABC could not air those games.
Originally posted by AL: By the way, can anyone name a show that has been such a success in the summer, and could not do well other times of the year, only to return in the summer to do well? I might be wrong, but I don't think there is an example. And Big Brother does not count, because it has never done particularly well in the summer.
Last Comic Standing. Two successful summer runs, bombed in fall to the point of cancellation, returned a couple years later for two more successful summer runs.
Last Comic Standing is not really a strong performer for NBC, even in the summer. I might be wrong on this, but I would guess that the ratings last summer were lower than they were in the one fall it aired (to the point of cancellation).
It is not always as easy as ABC takes the bigger game and ESPN gets the lesser. ABC and ESPN have separate broadcasting deals with different conferences. For instance, ESPN has rights to SEC in football, which ABC does not. ESPN only has rights to a small number of PAC 10 games per year, while ABC has PAC 10 games every week. Just because ESPN and ABC act as 1 unit, does not mean they share rights to all games. The same goes in basketball. If ABC wanted to air a primetime package of basketball they would have to acquire additional rights to air these games. They have a very limited rights deal currently and only air at most 1 game per week, and some weeks air no games.
Are you sure about that AL, because ABC doesn't have a sports department anymore? I guess ABC sports legally exists but ESPN producers all of ABC's sports programming. It might depend on when the contracts with various leagues were signed. Some of the older contracts may have originally been with ABC Sports. Obviously, any new contracts with the leagues themselves probably specify whether a particular game could be moved from Network to cable TV or vice versa. For example, obviously Disney couldn't just move MNF back to ABC without concent of the NFL.
ESPN produces all of the content for ABC. True, ABC Sports does not exist any more. But all TV deals are done separately for broadcast channel vs cable deal. For instance, just because ESPN has rights to MLB on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights does not mean they could just move these games to ABC if they wanted. ESPN has rights to SEC basketball and football, but on the broadcast side CBS has those rights, so ABC could not air those games.
I agree with that AL. The reason I think that ABC could get NBA games for Saturday night if it wanted is that the NBA might be open to the extra exposure. Of course, I don't think the ratings would be all that great.
Actually its a total of 13 but still, the point is valid. Why? Is it moving to Fridays or something? Tuesdays once Biggest Loser is done? Sundays?
I am not surprised that Lipstick Jungle got a back six...as relationship dramas go, it's pretty good and getting better. A bit of a question mark where to put it when E/R returns thought.
NBC seems to be making a concerted effort to introduce and support new relationship dramas (quarterlife, Lipstick Jungle) to go along with their likely holdovers (E/R for sure, Friday Night Lights a strong maybe) that go after the W18-49-loaded audience that ABC has cornered with this fare.
It is not always as easy as ABC takes the bigger game and ESPN gets the lesser. ABC and ESPN have separate broadcasting deals with different conferences. For instance, ESPN has rights to SEC in football, which ABC does not. ESPN only has rights to a small number of PAC 10 games per year, while ABC has PAC 10 games every week. Just because ESPN and ABC act as 1 unit, does not mean they share rights to all games. The same goes in basketball. If ABC wanted to air a primetime package of basketball they would have to acquire additional rights to air these games. They have a very limited rights deal currently and only air at most 1 game per week, and some weeks air no games.
Are you sure about that AL, because ABC doesn't have a sports department anymore? I guess ABC sports legally exists but ESPN producers all of ABC's sports programming. It might depend on when the contracts with various leagues were signed. Some of the older contracts may have originally been with ABC Sports. Obviously, any new contracts with the leagues themselves probably specify whether a particular game could be moved from Network to cable TV or vice versa. For example, obviously Disney couldn't just move MNF back to ABC without concent of the NFL.
ESPN produces all of the content for ABC. True, ABC Sports does not exist any more. But all TV deals are done separately for broadcast channel vs cable deal. For instance, just because ESPN has rights to MLB on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights does not mean they could just move these games to ABC if they wanted. ESPN has rights to SEC basketball and football, but on the broadcast side CBS has those rights, so ABC could not air those games.
I agree with that AL. The reason I think that ABC could get NBA games for Saturday night if it wanted is that the NBA might be open to the extra exposure. Of course, I don't think the ratings would be all that great.
This season NBA games are doing well on cable, and the NBA Finals could be a pleasant surprise for ABC in May/June. I think if ABC picked the right games, such as matchups featuring LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, or the hot Boston Celtics or Detroit Pistons would do well on Saturday nights. Definitely better than the ratings they've been getting on the night.
It is not always as easy as ABC takes the bigger game and ESPN gets the lesser. ABC and ESPN have separate broadcasting deals with different conferences. For instance, ESPN has rights to SEC in football, which ABC does not. ESPN only has rights to a small number of PAC 10 games per year, while ABC has PAC 10 games every week. Just because ESPN and ABC act as 1 unit, does not mean they share rights to all games. The same goes in basketball. If ABC wanted to air a primetime package of basketball they would have to acquire additional rights to air these games. They have a very limited rights deal currently and only air at most 1 game per week, and some weeks air no games.
Are you sure about that AL, because ABC doesn't have a sports department anymore? I guess ABC sports legally exists but ESPN producers all of ABC's sports programming. It might depend on when the contracts with various leagues were signed. Some of the older contracts may have originally been with ABC Sports. Obviously, any new contracts with the leagues themselves probably specify whether a particular game could be moved from Network to cable TV or vice versa. For example, obviously Disney couldn't just move MNF back to ABC without concent of the NFL.
ESPN produces all of the content for ABC. True, ABC Sports does not exist any more. But all TV deals are done separately for broadcast channel vs cable deal. For instance, just because ESPN has rights to MLB on Sunday, Monday, and Wednesday nights does not mean they could just move these games to ABC if they wanted. ESPN has rights to SEC basketball and football, but on the broadcast side CBS has those rights, so ABC could not air those games.
I agree with that AL. The reason I think that ABC could get NBA games for Saturday night if it wanted is that the NBA might be open to the extra exposure. Of course, I don't think the ratings would be all that great.
This season NBA games are doing well on cable, and the NBA Finals could be a pleasant surprise for ABC in May/June. I think if ABC picked the right games, such as matchups featuring LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, or the hot Boston Celtics or Detroit Pistons would do well on Saturday nights. Definitely better than the ratings they've been getting on the night.
It will be interesting to see if the faded brand of the CELTICS carries any weight if they advance deep.
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"NBC's Saturday Night Live returned from its months-long strike hiatus by putting up its highest overnight rating in two years (since a Feb. 4, 2006 episode hosted by Steve Martin). With Tina Fey 30 Rocking the guest host slot and Carrie Underwood delighting as musical guest, the episode's 4.1 rating/15 share also marks a 36 percent increase over SNL's pre-strike average this season."
Originally posted by lopez: "NBC's Saturday Night Live returned from its months-long strike hiatus by putting up its highest overnight rating in two years (since a Feb. 4, 2006 episode hosted by Steve Martin). With Tina Fey 30 Rocking the guest host slot and Carrie Underwood delighting as musical guest, the episode's 4.1 rating/15 share also marks a 36 percent increase over SNL's pre-strike average this season."
If you are going to mention the high ratings, at least mention why. Hint: it wasn't Tina Fey or Carrie Underwood. It was that guy that cooks squirrel's in his popcorn popper.
