At the risk of having the mob turn on me, I must agree with Pisher's PD analysis on both counts. Rating-wise, the trend just isnt good. If it stabilizes where it is, it'll survive to a second season maybe, but thats a big if. That's not considering the effect the strike will have. Not sure if it will help or hinder PD's cause.
Now, as for the show itself, I really enjoyed it -- at first andI do continue to watch. But the last couple of episodes have left me looking at the clock and rolling my eyes. The novelty has worn off for me as it evidently has for millions of viewers. This is a premise that does not lend itself to a long run. The novelty of the fantasy element is long gone. And the mystery portion of the show is as formulaic as anything you'll see on CBS.
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Originally posted by pisher: Right--and this means people are just dropping away from PD, week after week, because they don't think it's worth an hour of their time. With the most abysmal competition imaginable, PD keeps bleeding viewers, week after week, and the primary reason for this is that even the people watching it are increasingly inclined to wonder why they bother. As will be seen over the next several weeks, before the show disappears, and people just forget about it completely.
Now imagine how much pisher would rant, if PD actually had lost viewers this week, instead of gaining +0.5 in the demo!
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Pushing Daisies: Renew or Cancel?: TV By the Numbers has an analysis:
I checked their archives--it's the seventh time they've done this--none of the shows has been renewed or canceled yet. Not exactly a well-established track record. And even they have to admit, there are a lot of negatives, and the strike probably kills it anyway.
Honestly, PD will slip below the cancellation level eventually, even if the other networks never put any halfway decent competition up against it--but they will. And that's all she wrote.
Poor pisher can't even read. Here is what this analysis is actually saying, which seems obvious to anyone who can count up to 20:
Conclusions
Negatives Across the board, audience keeps slowly bleeding away. (note: written before last episode)
Positives Very strong among new Fall 2007 shows. Timeslot age demo domination. All accomplished with no lead in help.
Verdict: Solid Renew.
As for why none of those shows have been renewed or canceled yet, could this possibly have anything to do with this being the start of the season, and the strike?
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Originally posted by DirtySexyJ: Easy to be right when you already have the result. 7.9 with a 3.6 n Women 18-34 is DOMINATION! You guys have no clue ,Women have money and shop a bit more than men...The Ad rates for DSM season 2 will be significantly higher if it keeps doing 3.6-4.7 in 18-34. 7.9 M is a series low but its certainly not worthy of demise. Steve you reading this ? How bout you MP?
Steve McPherson? Are you addressing a post on PIFeedback.com to Steve McPherson? Who are Steve and MP? I'm curious.
Guess they were reading as the call cam in 17 minutes ago!!! DSM gets the back 9...So much for the show dying...
WTG DSM!!!!
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Getting a back nine order right now is kind of like patting a puppy on the head. It's a nice gesture towards Berlanti et al, but considering the strike I wouldn't be popping the champagne quite yet. Also keep in mind that ABC is notorious for cutting back on ordered episodes. Let's see what happens after the force majeure stipulations run out. If the show still has a cast etc. and ABC decides to actually stick with the show, then by all means start the celebration.
Originally posted by redrover: Getting a back nine order right now is kind of like patting a puppy on the head. It's a nice gesture towards Berlanti et al, but considering the strike I wouldn't be popping the champagne quite yet. Also keep in mind that ABC is notorious for cutting back on ordered episodes. Let's see what happens after the force majeure stipulations run out. If the show still has a cast etc. and ABC decides to actually stick with the show, then by all means start the celebration.
Its more than a "nice" puppy pat. This is big stuff which requires a serious monetary commit from the network. we will celebrate as it is necessary in the world of failed pilots, and pulled shows getting a pickup during a strike is INCREDIBLE!!! Thank you ABC Mr. Morowitz
Posts: 206 | Location: Hollywood | Registered: 19 October 2007
Originally posted by redrover: Getting a back nine order right now is kind of like patting a puppy on the head. It's a nice gesture towards Berlanti et al, but considering the strike I wouldn't be popping the champagne quite yet. Also keep in mind that ABC is notorious for cutting back on ordered episodes. Let's see what happens after the force majeure stipulations run out. If the show still has a cast etc. and ABC decides to actually stick with the show, then by all means start the celebration.
Its more than a "nice" puppy pat. This is big stuff which requires a serious monetary commit from the network. we will celebrate as it is necessary in the world of failed pilots, and pulled shows getting a pickup during a strike is INCREDIBLE!!! Thank you ABC Mr. Morowitz
As I said, let's see what happens after the strike. Right now there is no money being put out because there are no writers to pay to storyboard or even work on future scripts, no actors who will be shooting, and no one doing anything pertaining to these "back nine". It's a smart move on the part of the studio. Keep the people involved so if after the strike they need the show they can go on as business as usual. Of course this will depend on how long the strike lasts and if the strike is a long one who is left to come back to work after the dust settles.
The actors are not pleased about the way the studios are dealing with them in regards to the force majeure situation (and rightly so). The studios are playing fast and loose with their contracts and ALL of the actors on current shows have been served with letters stating that either the stipulation has been put into effect or the possibility that it will be put into effect in some state or form.
Let's see how long the strike lasts, and despite the general optimism regarding the set talks(at least among people on the various message boards) I wouldn't bet on them progressing that much towards a deal if at all.
Here is what this analysis is actually saying, which seems obvious to anyone who can count up to 20:
