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Ratings wise the AFC Championship Game is down from the past two games, but. The game didn't have this decade's powerhouses like the Colts and Patriots or a Brett Favre last game storyline.

While the Colts and Patriots are powerhouses, I would say the game did fair. However, Brett Farve is overrated. I cant believe 35 million people would watch his "last" game over the AFC Championship game.

I predict that the office will be one of the worst rated shows to air after the superbowl.

anyone know where to get these 3D glasses for the superbowl and for Chuck?

All I can say is that Fox could have chosen to Air American Idol instead of thinking of it's ratings for a change on Wed/Thursday this week instead of going head to head with the inaguaration. We all know people will be watching their idol.

why are there so many posts about the mentalist? The show does so well, it does like 19 million viewers every week.

CBS and NBC are also running regular programming from 8 to 10. Why are you singling out Fox? The ABC program from 8 to 10 is exclusive, like the HBO program on Sunday. And all the nets are covering the inauguration, which is at noon, not during prime time. That is the actual news event.

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All I can say is that Fox could have chosen to Air American Idol instead of thinking of it's ratings for a change on Wed/Thursday this week instead of going head to head with the inaguaration. We all know people will be watching their idol.


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Originally posted by PaulC:
Hmmmm. I would think the freedom of choosing whether to watch, or broadcast, endless coverage of the inaugeration is very American indeed. Thiose wanting more Obama will be able to find lots of him.

As for me, I'll be jetting to Vegas so Mr. Obama and Mr. Seacrest will both have to proceed without me.

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
I can't believe that american idol is still gonna air tomorrow opposite an obama inauguration special -- it's kinda unamerican. Didn't AI air 2 hour episodes for the past few years for at least 2 or 3 weeks?

Also, for all who don't know -- Lost starts airing this wed.

It's not a question of choice, it's a question of respect.

Thank God they're doing it, it's crap but i'll watch AI. It still is better than some stupid megalomaniac dollars-sucking event.

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Originally posted by BlueLick:
Yesterday was an awesome day to just sit back and watch football, but the results were disappointing. I can't believe the f**in' Eagles didn't win, they had that game too while these lame ass Cards come back to win. My folks in Philly were so pissed that didn't even call me last night. The Eagles went to 5 NFC Championship Games this decade and deserved to go and win the Super Bowl this year.

You can blame Eagles' defensive coordinator Jim Johnson, anointed by Eagles fans and by so-called NFL "experts" recently, for that mess yesterday.

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Willis McGahee hit to the head was probably the hardest real hit in prime time history although there have been more memorable ones on Sunday afternoon if you know what I mean.

You mean when CW took a "hit" with its MRC lineup?

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Had the game went to overtime I guarantee 45 million viewers, but the game was watched by at least 83 million peakers overall.

BlueLick, I wish you would've played PIFC Daily Game! I was accepting entries all weekend long!

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Now let me get to The Mentalist, if you WATCH CLOSELY...

No, I'll watch at a reasonable distance.

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Only bad thing is they decided to give a dying Office the bump.

How could a top-10 show in the 18-49 demo and NBC's most-buzzed-about hit be "dying"? You're too funny but not as funny as "The Office". BTW, the show is way better than any of those horror flicks you love.

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My guilty pleasure is Showtime's L-Word and this show's last three episodes were amazing last season and there already off to a great start this year by killing my hometown favorite Mia Kirshner and I got a chance to meet her a few years ago and she looks even more beautiful now. I bet Eagles fan Katherine Moennig woke up depressed from that lost last night.

I'm glad the "24"-whore is getting whacked this season on "L Word". She's a good actress, but it's a great way to end a quality show.

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Again The CW STILL EXISTS?

As long as you keep watching their Sunday night MGM movie, yes. So stop watching... CLOSELY!

I definitely blame Jim Johnson for that as I though the offense performed pretty good. I think had the defense performed like they have the previous two rounds then they would've won.

LOL! at your comment about CW, I think that might be the biggest hit. I also liked the comment someone else said about that Ravens/Steelers game "There Will Be Blood" and there was blood and plenty of it on that field.

Buzz also doesn't mean ratings. Look at Gossip Girl. Can barely get over 3 million viewers and Secret Life on cable doubles its ratings every week. The Office is a solid demo player and for NBC modest hit, but overall its not a hit like Men on CBS. Even BBT and HIMYM are bigger hits than The Office. The Office can't even touch Friends, Seinfeld, Cosby, Family Ties, Cheers, Will & Grace, Fraiser, and the list goes on and on.

Its too bad about Mia because she's a nice little Canadian girl, but her character is a bitch and if she can portray her character like than that means she is a terrific actress and I agree with you totally on it being a quality show. Can't wait to see their prison spin-off sounds like OZ. LOL!

I only watched that Sunday Night Movie showcase once with Carrie and they're airing horrible movies on there. If they air garbage like RoboCop, Trolls, or even Child's Play then they should burn their headquarters now. RoboCop I can tolerate b/c the first two were good and they're remaking it.

Douglas I really wanted to play the PIFC Daily Game on Sunday, but I haven't been able to get on the studio's computer that much this weekend. I'll try to play either for the Super Bowl rating or sometime before that. Thanks again for always reading and responding Douglas its much appreciated.

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Originally posted by BlueLick:
The CW probably wanted to air Carrie again last night as those numbers for the 1983 Michael Keaton classic Mr. Mom were off from last week.

I'm sure the CW wanted to air the same movie two weekends in a row and yes, it still exists and continues to beat MyNet and make a lot more money than MyNet with its low brow programming.

I would think MyNetworkTV is much closer to profitability than The CW.

I highly doubt they're making much off of many of their shows, especially the likes of Tony Rock and Under One Roof and we know Smackdown didn't make much on Fridays for the CW.

One of the main reasons why I make that statement about The CW is b/c this network deserves no respect and it shows in their ratings. Unless they get Smallville ratings or something way over that like a real network is supposed to get or shut down the network then I will make that statement in every column I release.

I agree with Dumont, once MyNetworkTV gets some of their originals off the ground with solid ratings then this network, which to me is already in 5th place will be making an excess of money.

Actually MNTV's Meidel said CW was lying about SD! not making money for CW b/c its been MNTV's biggest cash cow since the network landed in '06. The CW was making claims b/c Moonves had always wanted to get rid of Smackdown! and made that excuse. If WWE wasn't a profitable program then why would NBC Universal still be airing it or MNTV? WWE airs some pretty big advertisers during their programs. I will agree with you that they might not be making that much money on Rock and UOR.

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
I predict that the office will be one of the worst rated shows to air after the superbowl.

anyone know where to get these 3D glasses for the superbowl and for Chuck?

All I can say is that Fox could have chosen to Air American Idol instead of thinking of it's ratings for a change on Wed/Thursday this week instead of going head to head with the inaguaration. We all know people will be watching their idol.

why are there so many posts about the mentalist? The show does so well, it does like 19 million viewers every week.

I think The Office will be one of the worst rated shows and its definitely not going to help them on Thursdays in the long run. NBC should've aired Southland after the Super Bowl or Kings. Something that can draw ratings for them in the future.

I agree with you on The Mentalist, I have no worries about that show and its still going to be the biggest new hit series since 2005.

With Idol, they have to air it for Fringe and Obama's coverage is during the day and at night there's nothing to cover, but the ball.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Ratings wise the AFC Championship Game is down from the past two games, but. The game didn't have this decade's powerhouses like the Colts and Patriots or a Brett Favre last game storyline.

While the Colts and Patriots are powerhouses, I would say the game did fair. However, Brett Farve is overrated. I cant believe 35 million people would watch his "last" game over the AFC Championship game.

I agree Yankeesjr, 35 million viewers is something still to be happy about. The game was over mid way through the 4th quarter and didn't go down to the last second like previous years. Considering Pittsburgh is a small market with a nationwide team that is a good number. Favre is very overrated.

better Idol than NCIS or the Biggest Loser

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
I can't believe that american idol is still gonna air tomorrow opposite an obama inauguration special -- it's kinda unamerican. Didn't AI air 2 hour episodes for the past few years for at least 2 or 3 weeks?

Also, for all who don't know -- Lost starts airing this wed.

speaking of Idol, whats with it being only one hour already?

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Ratings wise the AFC Championship Game is down from the past two games, but. The game didn't have this decade's powerhouses like the Colts and Patriots or a Brett Favre last game storyline.

While the Colts and Patriots are powerhouses, I would say the game did fair. However, Brett Farve is overrated. I cant believe 35 million people would watch his "last" game over the AFC Championship game.

If you remember, the NFC Championship, last year, featured Favre & The Packers. I was widely speculated and almost "known" that that was to be Farves last season/Last game.

Like him or not, Favre is a Ratings Draw, and he is NOT Over rated. He makes his mistakes, but he also makes some pretty great plays. he is one of the all-time great QBs of the game.

http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.san&...2&Nid=51344&p=976329

Situation Normal: C3 Ratings Hold Steady
by David Goetzl

Any fears that broadcasters had about the switch to C3 ratings slashing their inventory might seem unfounded now. So far this season, of the four major broadcast networks, two have gained monetizable inventory with the new metric, while two have seen it hold steady.


The industry used "live program ratings" as the negotiating currency for decades. In 2007, it switched to what's known as C3--derived from commercial ratings in the live broadcast and over the ensuing three days with DVRs.

This season, "live-only program" ratings for ABC and Fox are the same as each network's C3 numbers. In the 18-to-49 demo, ABC has a 2.7 "live" figure--the same as its C3 ratings average. Fox, similarly, has a 2.5 in both metrics.

CBS has seen a slight bump from a 2.7 "live" to a 2.8 in C3. NBC has risen from a 2.6 to a 2.7, when comparing "live" to C3.

The figures cover Sept. 22 through Dec. 21 and were compiled by Magna Global. A year ago at the same point in the 2007-08 season, the data showed that all four networks had the same "live" number as C3.

On one level, it would seem that enough people who view shows with DVRs are watching commercials to keep the "old" ratings about on par with the new ones.

That's not to say that networks don't have ratings issues or revenues are not affected--pricing is obviously driven by supply and demand. It's just that impressions on the market have not been driven downward by the switchover.

In fact, with C3 ratings, there is ample evidence that networks are experiencing ratings woes.

All but CBS have seen their C3 ratings decline notably this year, compared to their performance last season. CBS has been flat in 18-to-49 at 2.8. But Fox is down 14%, from a 2.9 to a 2.5. ABC has dropped 13% from a 3.1 to a 2.7. And NBC has fallen 7% from a 2.9 to a 2.7.

CBS--the network that had less appeal to younger viewers for many years--is now the 18-to-49 leader, at least in the C3 metric that drives sales. CBS is at a 2.8, with ABC and NBC at a 2.7 and Fox at a 2.5.

Note: the numbers do not include "American Idol."

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Originally posted by Zedman2:
CBS--the network that had less appeal to younger viewers for many years--is now the 18-to-49 leader, at least in the C3 metric that drives sales. CBS is at a 2.8, with ABC and NBC at a 2.7 and Fox at a 2.5.

This last bit of data is the key people need to understand. In the audience that matters (C3 data on 18-49year old viewers) the four networks are very close in competition...and FOX, the laggard, will be the leader once American Idol airs for a few weeks. NBC might even squeak in with the season long lead for a week or two at the start of February because of the Superbowl.

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Originally posted by vlis:
speaking of Idol, whats with it being only one hour already?

I think this was part of the changes made for this year.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:

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Ratings wise the AFC Championship Game is down from the past two games, but. The game didn't have this decade's powerhouses like the Colts and Patriots or a Brett Favre last game storyline.

While the Colts and Patriots are powerhouses, I would say the game did fair. However, Brett Farve is overrated. I cant believe 35 million people would watch his "last" game over the AFC Championship game.

If you remember, the NFC Championship, last year, featured Favre & The Packers. I was widely speculated and almost "known" that that was to be Farves last season/Last game.

Like him or not, Favre is a Ratings Draw, and he is NOT Over rated. He makes his mistakes, but he also makes some pretty great plays. he is one of the all-time great QBs of the game.

He's also one of the all-time great pains in the a$$. Packers fans finally realized that this past summer when he showed his true colors as the Madonna that he is.

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Originally posted by BlueLick:
One of the main reasons why I make that statement about The CW is b/c this network deserves no respect and it shows in their ratings. Unless they get Smallville ratings or something way over that like a real network is supposed to get or shut down the network then I will make that statement in every column I release.

I agree with Dumont, once MyNetworkTV gets some of their originals off the ground with solid ratings then this network, which to me is already in 5th place will be making an excess of money.

Actually MNTV's Meidel said CW was lying about SD! not making money for CW b/c its been MNTV's biggest cash cow since the network landed in '06. The CW was making claims b/c Moonves had always wanted to get rid of Smackdown! and made that excuse. If WWE wasn't a profitable program then why would NBC Universal still be airing it or MNTV? WWE airs some pretty big advertisers during their programs. I will agree with you that they might not be making that much money on Rock and UOR.

How can the CW deserve no respect and MyNet with that utter trash schedule deserve more? At least the CW has some watchable dramas.

I have yet to see any real evidence that originals are going to work long term for MyNet. What helps that network more than anything are the fairly strong syndication lineups on many of these News Corp owned MyNet affiliates. Most of them have the Simpsons, Family Guy, 2.5 Men, and Raymond and sometimes even Seinfeld on top of that. Incredibly strong lead ins for their 8pm shows, a lot stronger in many cases than what the CW gets. Not to mention, a lot more compatible shows for a lead in than what the CW affiliates often get.

Also, could you please post some actual data that Smackdown is making money for MyNet? It's rate per commercial in the past was the lowest of any CW show, perhaps excluding the Sunday night shows.

Again, MyNet is not in 5th place. Univision is. MyNet is in 7th place and has during repeat seasons barely beaten the CW for about 5 weeks. This came after Cdub trounced MyNet early in the season when they were at full strength. Certainly the CW has a lot to correct, but going after and finding a very hard to reach demo in 18-34 year olds is not what's necessarily wrong with the network. Sure they should expand that reach a bit more to probably include 12-17s and maybe even up to 49 year olds, but the fact of the matter is nearly all of their decent shows beat CBS programs in the 18-34 demos by wide margins. That's how they make money, by charging a premium rate for those viewers and by having rather cheaply produced dramas and comedies that also are stuffed full of product placement and have tons of online extras and things like that.

CW is really just another solid program or two away from having a filled out lineup or as filled out as they can hope for. As far as I'm concerned, their Friday nights just as well remain a cheap stuff/repeat night, leaving Sundays and a few hour in midweek as the focus to correct. I see no reason should Reaper come on solid this spring for the network not to have enough programming to fill the schedule next year.

I'm looking forward to last night's results for BBT & HIMYM. With the advertising of both shows during the 30 million plus AFC Championship game,I'm hopeful that they can both eclipse the 12 million viewership number and 4.5+ in the demo. Any predictions for these two before the results get posted?