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Just a heads up on those poor Fringe numbers. While it did get promoted well during Baseball, there seems to be at least a few areas (providers) that never updated thier On Screen schedules (including where I live). There have been more then a few reports of people not even knowing that there was a new episode on for a few reasons:
1 They didnt watch the World Series
2 Their On Screen Guide did not update, so they didn't see that there was a new episode.

I can see this also hurting the DVR numbers for this weeks episode. I think all this cancelation talk is premature, and well ahve to see next week if the demo\total numbers actual hold, or go back to what they were earlier in the season.

I do have to say that the move along with the breaks this show takes have hurt it in the long run. I think last season there were multiple breaks of multiple weeks, I think each time the numbers were a little lower the week it came back as people remembers that it was back on. Only time will tell though, but really I dont think Fox has anything that would do any better in that timeslot.

I personally think Fox knew what they were getting into when they moved the show to Thursday. They would HAVE to know that going up against entrenched demo\total number shows would be a touch task for anything they put there.
 
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Originally posted by Ph8:
Just a heads up on those poor Fringe numbers. While it did get promoted well during Baseball, there seems to be at least a few areas (providers) that never updated thier On Screen schedules (including where I live). There have been more then a few reports of people not even knowing that there was a new episode on for a few reasons:
1 They didnt watch the World Series
2 Their On Screen Guide did not update, so they didn't see that there was a new episode.

I can see this also hurting the DVR numbers for this weeks episode. I think all this cancelation talk is premature, and well ahve to see next week if the demo\total numbers actual hold, or go back to what they were earlier in the season.

I do have to say that the move along with the breaks this show takes have hurt it in the long run. I think last season there were multiple breaks of multiple weeks, I think each time the numbers were a little lower the week it came back as people remembers that it was back on. Only time will tell though, but really I dont think Fox has anything that would do any better in that timeslot.

I personally think Fox knew what they were getting into when they moved the show to Thursday. They would HAVE to know that going up against entrenched demo\total number shows would be a touch task for anything they put there.


The FOX head programmer is on Twitter and he said yesterday about Fringe :

"I know #FRINGE took a hit after two weeks off but, trust me, next week's episode "August" is awesome and well worth coming back for."
 
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Ph8
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Originally posted by Twins12:
The FOX head programmer is on Twitter and he said yesterday about Fringe :

"I know #FRINGE took a hit after two weeks off but, trust me, next week's episode "August" is awesome and well worth coming back for."


IT doesnt mattter to those who have already called for the death of this show Wink....Personally I am sticking with the show as the good episodes far outweigh the bad episodes. From the post it looks like they knew the F'd up in more ways then one. LAst year they did it so often they thought they could do it again and be OK, this season though I think they needed to be more careful with the new more competetive timeslot.
 
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Originally posted by Ph8:
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Originally posted by Twins12:
The FOX head programmer is on Twitter and he said yesterday about Fringe :

"I know #FRINGE took a hit after two weeks off but, trust me, next week's episode "August" is awesome and well worth coming back for."


IT doesnt mattter to those who have already called for the death of this show Wink....Personally I am sticking with the show as the good episodes far outweigh the bad episodes. From the post it looks like they knew the F'd up in more ways then one. LAst year they did it so often they thought they could do it again and be OK, this season though I think they needed to be more careful with the new more competetive timeslot.


It sounds to me like they gave it a pass this week since it was off for two weeks.
 
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Originally posted by Ph8:
Just a heads up on those poor Fringe numbers. While it did get promoted well during Baseball, there seems to be at least a few areas (providers) that never updated thier On Screen schedules (including where I live). There have been more then a few reports of people not even knowing that there was a new episode on for a few reasons:
1 They didnt watch the World Series
2 Their On Screen Guide did not update, so they didn't see that there was a new episode.

I can see this also hurting the DVR numbers for this weeks episode. I think all this cancelation talk is premature, and well ahve to see next week if the demo\total numbers actual hold, or go back to what they were earlier in the season.

I do have to say that the move along with the breaks this show takes have hurt it in the long run. I think last season there were multiple breaks of multiple weeks, I think each time the numbers were a little lower the week it came back as people remembers that it was back on. Only time will tell though, but really I dont think Fox has anything that would do any better in that timeslot.

I personally think Fox knew what they were getting into when they moved the show to Thursday. They would HAVE to know that going up against entrenched demo\total number shows would be a touch task for anything they put there.


The FOX head programmer is on Twitter and he said yesterday about Fringe :

"I know #FRINGE took a hit after two weeks off but, trust me, next week's episode "August" is awesome and well worth coming back for."


FOX head programmer this is for you for putting Fringe in this competitive timeslot Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





 
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Fringe is on and Supernatural is down again *sigh* It's obvious that Fringe is killing SPN - last week it wasn't on and even against football, SPN went up to 2.92 mil. So, Fringe's killing SPN but dying in the process. 1.7 demo for a Fox show on Thursday? Wow!


Uhh... you think 200,000 viewers is such a big difference? It's not Fringe that kills it, in fact CSI and Grey's hurt it more. There's a lot that factors in the ratings being down, but blaming it on Fringe alone just isn't accurate. With a lead in like VD SPN should be doing better, it's time for Supernatural to end.

I have no numbers to back this up, but I really don't think that Grey's or CSI are the main competition for Supernatural. Sure they put a dent it in and have done for many years, but not in the same way that Fringe does. Fringe and SPN share the same audience and it's killing both of them (Fringe moreso than SPN).

In general, I think FOX is the main competition for the CW. I don't think it's any surprise that the CW has had season highs for 3 of its shows during the two weeks that FOX has been showing baseball.

I'm also not surprised that Bones took a hit last night. I didn't think there would be new episodes showing if there was no baseball game to be shown.



 
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Originally posted by Twins12:
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Originally posted by Ph8:
Just a heads up on those poor Fringe numbers. While it did get promoted well during Baseball, there seems to be at least a few areas (providers) that never updated thier On Screen schedules (including where I live). There have been more then a few reports of people not even knowing that there was a new episode on for a few reasons:
1 They didnt watch the World Series
2 Their On Screen Guide did not update, so they didn't see that there was a new episode.

I can see this also hurting the DVR numbers for this weeks episode. I think all this cancelation talk is premature, and well ahve to see next week if the demo\total numbers actual hold, or go back to what they were earlier in the season.

I do have to say that the move along with the breaks this show takes have hurt it in the long run. I think last season there were multiple breaks of multiple weeks, I think each time the numbers were a little lower the week it came back as people remembers that it was back on. Only time will tell though, but really I dont think Fox has anything that would do any better in that timeslot.

I personally think Fox knew what they were getting into when they moved the show to Thursday. They would HAVE to know that going up against entrenched demo\total number shows would be a touch task for anything they put there.


The FOX head programmer is on Twitter and he said yesterday about Fringe :

"I know #FRINGE took a hit after two weeks off but, trust me, next week's episode "August" is awesome and well worth coming back for."


FOX head programmer this is for you for putting Fringe in this competitive timeslot Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


I never get this attitude. Ever. This is not arts programming. This is a big budget drama that got massive promotion, and a great lead-in for its entire first season.

How long were they supposed to go on coddling it?

If they renew it, you've got nothing to complain about. And they will allow for the competition. Personally, I think it would have dropped even if it had stayed in the same timeslot, with the same competition. It is simply a less entertaining show this season thus far.
 
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The best part about Fringe not doing well? Castle is second to only Lie to Me (and retention-wise, probably better) in sophomore dramas.


And if it was in Fringe's timeslot, it'd be dead last. Big Grin

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Plus, with Lie to Me either Thursday or Friday bound (if that even), I'd say Castle will be the sophomore show to survive to season three.


Well, that's not what tvbythenumbers is saying, mushu. Wink

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Let me say it again for you pisher, CASTLE, SEASON THREE, on a TV near you!


Veronica Mars S3 was like my favorite season ever. Man, such payback I had that season. So many premature gloaters got stomped.

Big GrinBig GrinBig Grin
 
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Top 10 Markets (with Detroit, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Minneapolis-St. Paul,
Indianapolis & Ft. Myers-Naples)
Final Household Ratings-Primetime

Thursday, November 5

                                                     # 1       # 2       # 3       # 4       # 5
 Time  Net  Program                                   NY        LA       CHI       PHI       DAL
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 8:00  ABC  FlashForward                           5.8/ 9    5.3/ 9    5.6/10    5.7/ 8    2.8/ 5
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy                         8.0/12    7.1/12    8.8/14   10.8/15    5.6/ 9
10:00  ABC  Private Practice                       4.9/ 8    5.2/10    6.7/11    6.5/11    4.7/ 8

 8:00  CBS  Survivor: Samoa                        4.9/ 8    4.1/ 7    4.9/ 9    6.7/10    4.2/ 7
 9:00  CBS  CSI: Crime Scene Investigation         8.7/13    7.1/12    6.7/11   10.3/15    6.9/12
10:00  CBS  The Mentalist                          9.4/16    6.8/13   10.3/17   11.7/19    8.8/15

 8:00  NBC  Community                              2.8/ 4    1.5/ 2    3.6/ 7    3.2/ 5    2.5/ 4
 8:30  NBC  Parks and Recreation                   2.9/ 5    2.1/ 4    4.0/ 7    3.6/ 5    2.3/ 4
 9:00  NBC  The Office                             4.5/ 7    3.2/ 5    5.7/10    5.7/ 8    2.5/ 4
 9:30  NBC  30 Rock                                3.8/ 6    2.5/ 4    5.1/ 8    4.3/ 6    3.2/ 5
10:00  NBC  Jay Leno Show                          2.8/ 5    3.0/ 6    3.1/ 5    3.2/ 5    3.6/ 6

 8:00  FOX  Bones                                  4.7/ 8    3.8/ 6    3.0/ 5    5.4/ 8    5.5/10
 9:00  FOX  Fringe                                 3.0/ 5    2.9/ 5    3.1/ 5    3.3/ 5    3.2/ 5

 8:00   CW  The Vampire Diaries                    3.6/ 6    3.0/ 5    2.4/ 4    2.0/ 3    2.0/ 4
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                           2.0/ 3    1.9/ 3    2.4/ 4    1.4/ 2    1.6/ 3

 8:00  MNT  MOVIE: The Marine                      1.1/ 2    0.5/ 1    1.3/ 2    2.1/ 3    1.2/ 2

 7:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.5/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.5/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.5/ 1
 8:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.3/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.9/ 1    1.1/ 2
 9:00  ION  NCIS                              (R)  0.6/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.9/ 2    0.4/ 1    0.7/ 1
10:00  ION  NCIS                              (R)  0.7/ 1    0.5/ 1    1.1/ 2    0.3/ 0    0.5/ 1
11:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.5/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1


                                                     # 6       # 7       # 8       # 9       #10
 Time  Net  Program                              SF/OAK/SJ     BOS       ATL     WSH DC      HOU
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 8:00  ABC  FlashForward                           4.1/ 7    6.0/10    7.0/11    4.9/ 8    5.0/ 9
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy                         6.5/12    9.6/16   11.3/17    8.1/13    8.0/13
10:00  ABC  Private Practice                       4.1/ 9    4.9/ 9    9.2/15    6.0/10    5.8/10

 8:00  CBS  Survivor: Samoa                        5.8/11    6.9/12    4.1/ 6    3.5/ 6    5.0/ 9
 9:00  CBS  CSI: Crime Scene Investigation         7.6/14    8.7/14    6.6/10    6.6/11    8.4/13
10:00  CBS  The Mentalist                          8.8/19    9.6/18    6.2/10    8.0/14    9.9/16

 8:00  NBC  Community                              3.1/ 6    2.5/ 4    1.9/ 3    4.6/ 8    1.8/ 3
 8:30  NBC  Parks and Recreation                   3.3/ 6    2.1/ 4    2.0/ 3    3.0/ 5    1.8/ 3
 9:00  NBC  The Office                             4.8/ 9    3.9/ 6    2.9/ 4    6.0/10    3.5/ 6
 9:30  NBC  30 Rock                                4.6/ 9    3.5/ 6    2.1/ 3    4.9/ 8    2.2/ 3
10:00  NBC  Jay Leno Show                          2.8/ 6    4.6/ 9    3.0/ 5    4.2/ 7    2.4/ 4

 8:00  FOX  Bones                                  6.3/11    5.1/ 9    6.3/10    4.5/ 8    2.7/ 5
 9:00  FOX  Fringe                                 3.0/ 6    3.3/ 5    5.0/ 7    3.9/ 6    1.8/ 3

 8:00   CW  The Vampire Diaries                    1.9/ 3    2.8/ 5    2.5/ 4    0.8/ 1    2.3/ 4
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                           1.8/ 3    2.3/ 4    1.3/ 2    1.2/ 2    1.2/ 2

 8:00  MNT  MOVIE: The Marine                      1.0/ 2              1.9/ 3    0.8/ 1    1.1/ 2

 7:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.8/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.3/ 1
 8:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  0.4/ 1    0.3/ 1    1.2/ 2    0.8/ 1    1.0/ 2
 9:00  ION  NCIS                              (R)  0.6/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.6/ 1    1.0/ 2
10:00  ION  NCIS                              (R)  0.5/ 1    0.9/ 2    1.1/ 2    0.2/ 0    1.0/ 2
11:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  0.5/ 2    1.2/ 3    1.0/ 2    0.2/ 0    0.6/ 1


                                                     #11       #14       #15       #25       #64
 Time  Net  Program                                  DET     TAM-StP  MIN-StPl     IND    FtMy-Npl
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 8:00  ABC  FlashForward                           7.0/11    4.1/ 7^^  5.1/ 5    6.9/11    3.7/ 6
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy                        11.0/17    7.4/11^^  7.9/12   10.5/16    6.0/ 9
10:00  ABC  Private Practice                       8.1/13    3.9/ 7^^  5.0/ 8    7.1/12    5.7/10

 8:00  CBS  Survivor: Samoa                        4.4/ 7    5.4/ 8    8.6/15    8.7/14    7.0/11
 9:00  CBS  CSI: Crime Scene Investigation         6.8/10    7.6/12   11.6/18   12.1/18   11.5/18
10:00  CBS  The Mentalist                          6.8/11    9.0/16   16.0/26   11.4/19   11.8/20

 8:00  NBC  Community                              3.3/ 5    3.2/ 5    3.9/ 7    4.2/ 7    3.2/ 5
 8:30  NBC  Parks and Recreation                   3.0/ 5    2.7/ 4    4.2/ 7    2.8/ 4    2.8/ 4
 9:00  NBC  The Office                             5.4/ 8    2.9/ 5    7.0/11    3.8/ 6    3.2/ 5
 9:30  NBC  30 Rock                                4.4/ 7    2.4/ 4    5.4/ 8    2.7/ 4    2.8/ 4
10:00  NBC  Jay Leno Show                          6.8/11    2.7/ 5    3.4/ 5    3.9/ 6    2.0/ 4

 8:00  FOX  Bones                                  5.5/ 9    5.5/ 9    5.8/10    5.8/ 9    4.9/ 7
 9:00  FOX  Fringe                                 2.8/ 4    4.0/ 6    3.2/ 5    3.9/ 6    2.8/ 4

 8:00   CW  The Vampire Diaries                    2.8/ 4    2.1/ 3    1.0/ 2    2.6/ 4    2.2/ 3
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                           1.6/ 3    1.6/ 3    0.6/ 1    1.7/ 3    2.7/ 4

 8:00  MNT  MOVIE: The Marine                      1.9/ 3    1.1/ 2    2.4/ 4    1.8/ 3    1.2/ 2

 7:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  1.0/ 2    0.3/ 0    0.3/ 1    0.3/ 0
 8:00  ION  Ghost Whisperer                   (R)  1.4/ 2    0.6/ 1    0.3/ 1    -.-/--
 9:00  ION  NCIS                              (R)  1.6/ 2    1.1/ 2    0.7/ 1    0.2/ 0
10:00  ION  NCIS                              (R)  1.3/ 2    1.2/ 2    0.8/ 1    0.7/ 1
11:00  ION  Criminal Minds                    (R)  1.0/ 2    1.4/ 3    0.4/ 1    1.0/ 2

        ^^  Combined rating of this market's two ABC affiliates
 
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