Originally posted by mushu_jj: When there's three African American sitcoms total on the air, what do you expect?
You should probably note that a show doesn't have to be 'an African American sitcom' to be nominated. Shows like Ugly Betty, 30 Rock, New Adventures of Old Christine, Weeds, House of Payne, Psych, Scrubs, Curb Your Enthusiasm, The Office, and Entourage earned noms in addition to just the 3 CW African American 'only' sitcoms you are aware of.
Originally posted by vlis: I recently heard about this. abc is planning to run it during half time
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...the Superbowl will be the highest watched and most buzzed about show on TV next year unless 60 Minutes releases a video tape of Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton doing it on the Senate floor while they are in full session.
BWAAAH! But I think NBC can beat that in the ratings with their tape of John McCain and Mike Huckabee on the floor of... ummm never mind.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Looks Like Terminator:SCC is a 9-10 million viewer show
From Marc's Newsletter - "Over at Fox, the second Monday telecast (and third episode overall) of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles scored a respectable 6.0/ 9 in the overnights from 9-10 p.m. Comparably, that built from lead-in Prison Break (#3: 4.7/ 7 at 8 p.m.) by 28 percent. "
T:SCC should be in the 9-10 million viewer range, based on the overnight numbers.
Unfortunately, that looks like about a 10% drop from last week. Worse yet, it seems a number of viewers found the episode 'boring' because there were only a few deaths, no shoot-em-ups, and the show actually provided some character development instead.
Originally posted by eyeluver: NYC is the biggest market in the country vs. the Pats, who are ratings magic this year...I think it will set a SuperBowl Record. I believe the all time Superbowl rating (HH) record still belongs to Cowboys-Steelers in 1993...that was an NBC Superbowl.
I agree -- unless it becomes a blowout quick, this has all the ingredients of a record of records. An undefeated team going for the record books vs the biggest television market in the country: everybody will have something to root for!
Originally posted by Chimera: BTW, if these NFL playoff ratings don't reinforce my position that ABC made a huge mistake be getting out of the NFL business nothing will. 50 million viewers! 50 million!!
I don't know about that. If ABC still had the MNF package, it would never get a Conference Championship game. It would only have the first Saturday Wild Card games, and be done.
Plus, ABC still has ESPN promoting its primetime schedule during its broadcast of the MNF games.
As long as ABC schedules shows that people want to watch, it really is a win-win situation for Disney. They get the platform of the NFL to promote both ABC programs and ESPN programs, plus they get to air 3 more hours of NON-NFL Primetime programming on ABC.
Plus the fact that ESPN gets atleast 50 cents per subscriber, per month, from the Sat. & Cable companies, directly because of its NFL Package.
Is there a rule that says that only 1 of those sister networks can have football (ABC and ESPN)? Remember, ESPN had Sunday night football before and ABC had MNF before this change. The other side-effect of ABC giving up MNF is NBC got Sunday night football and is getting Monday Night Football ratings at a much cheaper price. Face it, ABC messed up big-time.
Originally posted by Chimera: BTW, if these NFL playoff ratings don't reinforce my position that ABC made a huge mistake be getting out of the NFL business nothing will. 50 million viewers! 50 million!!
I don't know about that. If ABC still had the MNF package, it would never get a Conference Championship game. It would only have the first Saturday Wild Card games, and be done.
Plus, ABC still has ESPN promoting its primetime schedule during its broadcast of the MNF games.
As long as ABC schedules shows that people want to watch, it really is a win-win situation for Disney. They get the platform of the NFL to promote both ABC programs and ESPN programs, plus they get to air 3 more hours of NON-NFL Primetime programming on ABC.
Plus the fact that ESPN gets atleast 50 cents per subscriber, per month, from the Sat. & Cable companies, directly because of its NFL Package.
Is there a rule that says that only 1 of those sister networks can have football (ABC and ESPN)? Remember, ESPN had Sunday night football before and ABC had MNF before this change. The other side-effect of ABC giving up MNF is NBC got Sunday night football and is getting Monday Night Football ratings at a much cheaper price. Face it, ABC messed up big-time.
I would not say that NBC is getting MNF Ratings. It had a few good matchups that did well, but over all, its numbers are not in that MNF Range.
ESPN is getting slightly better numbers with MNF than it did with SNF.
Disney determined that it was too much money to spend on the 2 packages when they can do just as well promoting ABC on ESPN MNF AND... program ABC with female focused shows on Monday Nights.
The ones that "Messed Up" is the NFL. Now they have 2 packages that get about the same ratings as what ESPN did for SNF. MNF is devalued and SNF stayed flat.
Originally posted by Elvis Bus: Highest Rated Shows since 2000
From wiki(from January 1, 2000 to the present; share is the percentage of television sets in use tuned to a specific program; source: Nielsen Media Research and TV Basics)
Rank Show or Episode Number of Viewers Percent of Households Share Date Network 1 Super Bowl XLI (Indianapolis Colts vs. Chicago Bears) 93.1 million[2] 42.0% 63% February 4, 2007 CBS 2 Super Bowl XL (Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Seattle Seahawks) 90.7 million[3] 41.6% 62% February 5, 2006 ABC 3 Super Bowl XXXVIII (New England Patriots vs. Carolina Panthers) 89.8 million[4] 41.4% 63% February 1, 2004 CBS 4 Super Bowl XXXIX (New England Patriots vs. Philadelphia Eagles) 86.1 million[5] 41.1% 62% February 6, 2005 FOX 5 Super Bowl XXXVII (Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Oakland Raiders) 88.6 million[4] 40.7% 61% January 26, 2003 ABC 6 Super Bowl XXXIV (St. Louis Rams vs. Tennessee Titans) 88.5 million[4] 43.3% 63% January 30, 2000 ABC 7 Super Bowl XXXVI (New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams) 86.8 million[4] 40.4% 61% February 3, 2002 FOX 8 Super Bowl XXXV (Baltimore Ravens vs. New York Giants) 84.3 million[4] 40.4% 61% January 28, 2001 CBS 9 Friends series finale: "The Last One" 52.5 million[6] 29.8% 43% May 6, 2004 NBC 10 Survivor season 1 finale: "The Final Four" 51.7 million[7] 28.2% 44% August 23, 2000 CBS 11 72nd Academy Awards 46.3 million[8] 29.2% 48% March 26, 2000 ABC 12 AFC Championship Game of 2004 NFL Season (New England Patriots vs. Pittsburgh Steelers) 44.3 million[9] 25.8% 38% January 23, 2005 CBS
Super Bowls have always been the top with a general Trend upwards
Originally posted by Chimera: BTW, if these NFL playoff ratings don't reinforce my position that ABC made a huge mistake be getting out of the NFL business nothing will. 50 million viewers! 50 million!!
I don't know about that. If ABC still had the MNF package, it would never get a Conference Championship game. It would only have the first Saturday Wild Card games, and be done.
Plus, ABC still has ESPN promoting its primetime schedule during its broadcast of the MNF games.
As long as ABC schedules shows that people want to watch, it really is a win-win situation for Disney. They get the platform of the NFL to promote both ABC programs and ESPN programs, plus they get to air 3 more hours of NON-NFL Primetime programming on ABC.
Plus the fact that ESPN gets atleast 50 cents per subscriber, per month, from the Sat. & Cable companies, directly because of its NFL Package.
Is there a rule that says that only 1 of those sister networks can have football (ABC and ESPN)? Remember, ESPN had Sunday night football before and ABC had MNF before this change. The other side-effect of ABC giving up MNF is NBC got Sunday night football and is getting Monday Night Football ratings at a much cheaper price. Face it, ABC messed up big-time.
I would not say that NBC is getting MNF Ratings. It had a few good matchups that did well, but over all, its numbers are not in that MNF Range.
ESPN is getting slightly better numbers with MNF than it did with SNF.
Disney determined that it was too much money to spend on the 2 packages when they can do just as well promoting ABC on ESPN MNF AND... program ABC with female focused shows on Monday Nights.
The ones that "Messed Up" is the NFL. Now they have 2 packages that get about the same ratings as what ESPN did for SNF. MNF is devalued and SNF stayed flat.
TV-aholic, ICBW, but I think that the Sunday night average is up over the last few years of MNF, which was on a downward trend. I would think this would be particularly true if you adjusted for the over all decline in primetime viewing.
As for ABC and ESPN both having a package, I don't see that happening either. First, there is the money issue mentioned by TV-aholic. Second, the three Networks with the NFL package now sign six year deals with two Super bowls included. If you added ABC, you would either have to go with with an 8 year rotation or one or more of the Nets only get one Super Bowl. I don't think that senerio works for either the Ntworks or the NFL. Finally, from the NFL percpective if there is any expansion to another network it will probably be to their own.
Originally posted by Hawk-eye: As for ABC and ESPN both having a package, I don't see that happening either. First, there is the money issue mentioned by TV-aholic. Second, the three Networks with the NFL package now sign six year deals with two Super bowls included. If you added ABC, you would either have to go with with an 8 year rotation or one or more of the Nets only get one Super Bowl. I don't think that senerio works for either the Ntworks or the NFL. Finally, from the NFL percpective if there is any expansion to another network it will probably be to their own.
If ABC was wanting to get back into the mix, the NFL would make sure that one of the 4 nets DID NOT get a package. That way they have created more demand than supply. That is the main reason their rights have jumped so much in recent contracts. If all 4 nets had the NFL, the following contract would have just a minimal bump, if any.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: If ABC was wanting to get back into the mix, the NFL would make sure that one of the 4 nets DID NOT get a package. That way they have created more demand than supply. That is the main reason their rights have jumped so much in recent contracts. If all 4 nets had the NFL, the following contract would have just a minimal bump, if any.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: If ABC was wanting to get back into the mix, the NFL would make sure that one of the 4 nets DID NOT get a package. That way they have created more demand than supply. That is the main reason their rights have jumped so much in recent contracts. If all 4 nets had the NFL, the following contract would have just a minimal bump, if any.
Very good point.
Yes it was. And any expansion will be on the NFL Network, which is slowing going to become the future of NFL broadcasting.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: If ABC was wanting to get back into the mix, the NFL would make sure that one of the 4 nets DID NOT get a package. That way they have created more demand than supply. That is the main reason their rights have jumped so much in recent contracts. If all 4 nets had the NFL, the following contract would have just a minimal bump, if any.
Very good point.
Yes it was. And any expansion will be on the NFL Network, which is slowing going to become the future of NFL broadcasting.
Pray that the NFL network grows a brain and fires Gumbel before they start adding any more broadcasts.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: If ABC was wanting to get back into the mix, the NFL would make sure that one of the 4 nets DID NOT get a package. That way they have created more demand than supply. That is the main reason their rights have jumped so much in recent contracts. If all 4 nets had the NFL, the following contract would have just a minimal bump, if any.
Very good point.
Yes it was. And any expansion will be on the NFL Network, which is slowing going to become the future of NFL broadcasting.
Pray that the NFL network grows a brain and fires Gumbel before they start adding any more broadcasts.
As well "pencil-neck" Chris Collinsworth. The only NFL Network personalities that I like are Rick Eison and Rod Woodsen.
