Originally posted by Shannon: Just curious, what other new shows does ABC have this season and is LOM's #'s better than the other shows?
ABC's only other new show was Opportunity Knocks, which was just canceled. Instead of debuting new shows, ABC tried to re-launch most of its sophomore shows. Unfortunately, that hasn't turned out so well for them..
I've noticed that ... especially with Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money. I read somewhere recently that shows that did not come back after they were put on hold for the writer's strike last fall/winter have been having substantially lower ratings. The only sophomore shows that have been doing better are those that came back after the writer's strike ended in February.
That is totally true. ABC Wednesday(which went off in December) all came back either very weak or DOA in the case of Pushing Daisies(which LOM's failure will not save that show, it's done).
Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: Since there's absolutely no programming on Friday, I actually expect Crusoe to debut decently. It should win the 9 PM hour with Supernanny edging out Ex-List for second.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Keep dreaming. Pushing Daisies is as dead as they come.
Pushing Daisies is all but dead, but it isn't killing the other shows on ABC that night. Each show owns its own failure and Dirty Sexy Money is the worst of that bunch. private Practice still has a shot at survival, but it will need to lean on some other show (maybe moving to Thursday 10pm to lean on its mommy) to stay alive.
As a fan of serialized shows I agree with you. It is a concern that everything that is a hit on network tv is a procedural. BUT the real problem is the networks are not producing really good non procedural dramas!! Cable has done a great job with new shows such as Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Dexter etc... Networks? not so much. I enjoy DSM but it's hardly award winning or a home run for network TV. Outside of Lost I really can't think of anything network TV has done to end this trend. I think if more quality serialized shows are out there people will watch.
oh and please stop making remakes of foreign shows. come up with an original idea and people might be interested??
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Originally posted by Lost_Dom: YES! So glad Life On Mars is failing, next week it'll be even lower. So many of ABC's shows are failing, and so they'll have to try and salvage a few of them.. Hopefully Pushing Daisies will be one of them.
Saying that, what de hale happened to 11th Hour?! It's lead in shrunk, and despite a huge half hour drop last week, it actually gained audience?! This makes me worried for the future of serialised shows. So many procedurals are hits, with serialsed shows bombing.
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: I'm shocked Eleventh Hour is growing after a pilot episode almost everyone hated. Is this just a case of CBS fans just not turning off the TV and watching anything?
What are you hinting at? Do you think CBS fans fell asleep during the hour with the set on.
CSI, of course, had a major drop from last week, but after a cliff-hanger, that should be expected. These numbers are still up from where it was last spring and it was down to 19 mill a few times last fall, so it's not down significantly overall in viewers. Demo is another matter, it was getting mid-lower 6's last fall.
Expect another drop next week. Last nite's show was a real downer for a lot of CSI fans. I'll predict around 17 million max. You really shouldn't piss off a segment of your fan base intentionally when you are about to lose another main character. JMHO On another note, The Office was great last nite. Dwight trying to destroy the baby carriage, priceless! I also enjoyed the nameplates on the wall in ER. Nice touch. Although the episode itself was mediocre. Angela Bassett is a wasted talent on that show.
Cable has done a great job with new shows such as Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Dexter etc... Networks? not so much.
Oh, please -- cable has to adhere to entirely different standards than broadcast television. Cable has the luxury of 13-episode seasons, limited commercials, more lax standards & practices. If all those series had to run (at least) 22 44-minute episodes per year, with long layoffs and reruns in between, and adhere to network standards & practices (and meddling executives), I think they'd experience a huge decline in quality.
Originally posted by Shannon: Well one thing about LOM is that it has to be an improvement for ABC in that timeslot over last year (and the last few years). Big Shots had terrible numbers there last season.
BS started higher then tanked also. Give LOM a few weeks in this timeslot and I expect the same numbers.
ABC needs to move shows around. Move UB to Wednesday, try PD on Thursday, swap LOM and DSM.
CSI, of course, had a major drop from last week, but after a cliff-hanger, that should be expected. These numbers are still up from where it was last spring and it was down to 19 mill a few times last fall, so it's not down significantly overall in viewers. Demo is another matter, it was getting mid-lower 6's last fall.
Expect another drop next week. Last nite's show was a real downer for a lot of CSI fans. I'll predict around 17 million max. You really shouldn't piss off a segment of your fan base intentionally when you are about to lose another main character. JMHO
I think you overestimate the impact of Grissom/Sara fans on the ratings.
Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: I'm shocked Eleventh Hour is growing after a pilot episode almost everyone hated. Is this just a case of CBS fans just not turning off the TV and watching anything?
What are you hinting at? Do you think CBS fans fell asleep during the hour with the set on.
How come they couldn't have been asleep at their PeopleMeters one year ago when 'Viva Laughlin' made its stirring debut.
There are still five unaired episodes, hidden away somewhere in Mr. Moonves office, right under the box labeled 'Waterfront'.
