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Does anyone actually have credible (link)information of how much TSCC costs to make?

I keep reading how expensive it is to produce, but in comparsion to what? And once again, how much?
 
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Originally posted by metal:
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Originally posted by HiddenPalmsFan:
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Originally posted by metal:
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Originally posted by mik:
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CW’s aging Smallville

Aging Smallville?
What about dying Supernatural?


You do get the concept of age, right? Roll Eyes

SV is in the 8th season, SPN is in it's 4th. Smallville is more aged, that's all Mark said. What a sad sad death SV will have, no dignity of a once good show. Frowner

And they talk abot SPN fans. Eeker
Ah, I see. So the old, dying show has over 1,120,000 more viewers than the young, thriving show; as well as having a 7-tenths of a rating point lead in the CW's young adult demographic, right?

Wink


SV does have more viewers. 7th Heaven and Gilmore Girls also had more viewers than Smallville. And they ended. Because the shows were OLD, the actors wanted to move on, and shows can't go on forever even if they average 20 million viewers. I pity SV and it's fans for being unable to move on. I completelly plan to move on after SN's five seasons, even if it doesn't end, cause if it doesn't it'll suck by then, like SV sucks now. Wink
Please check your facts, Hun. Smallville had more viewers than Gilmore Girls and 7th Heaven in the 2006-2007 season. And please save your pity, I don't need it. I'm loving this new season of Smallville, as well as Supernatural.
 
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Originally posted by KryptonSite:
I really don't understand why fans of Supernatural feel the need to bash Smallville (or Reaper for that matter) at any opportunity.
I think they do it to make themselves feel better. It's a shame that SN fans have toi act the way they do. I would have checked out the show a lot sooner than I did if the fans wouldn't have been so annoying.
 
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What happened to Ugly Betty. And greys continus to show that it is a big dissapointment

 
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Does anyone actually have credible (link)information of how much TSCC costs to make?


NPR did a story on the rising costs of TV dramas, and how networks were spending more and more on special effects--and chose SCC as the series to symbolize that change.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17999005

Josh Friedman says the S2 budget is significantly more expensive.

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/09/sarah-connor-ch.html

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I keep reading how expensive it is to produce, but in comparsion to what? And once again, how much?


It's by no means the most expensive show ever made, week to week--but it's a one hour drama, with lots of fight scenes, lots of outdoor shooting, etc--and FOX spends a fortune promoting it. It's been a huge investment for them, and that's just common sense--they have not, to my knowledge, given out a per-ep budget. But FYI, Veronica Mars cost like 2mil an ep by the end of its run. There is no such thing as a cheap one hour drama on network TV--not even CW.

And the size of their investment is what makes them reluctant to admit it's a failure--they could have cut the cord much more easily if it was something low-budget. They will never make a profit from it. It was just a bad idea, from start to finish--or terminus, if you prefer. And one way or another, the terminus is coming in a few more months. Dead. Show. Walking.

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Top 25 Markets
Overnight Household Ratings-Primetime
Thursday, October 16

Sorry, no Houston, Albuquerque & Fort Myers data

                                           # 1       # 2       # 3       # 4       # 5
 Time  Net  Program                         NY        LA       CHI       PHI       DAL
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 8:00  ABC  Ugly Betty                   8.4/13    6.8/11    6.5/12    7.8/12    6.0/11
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy              10.5/16    9.0/14    9.2/15   11.1/16   10.2/17
10:01  ABC  Life on Mars                 8.1/13    6.1/11    7.7/13    5.7/ 9    6.9/11
11:35  ABC  Niteline                     2.9/ 6    3.7/10    6.0/12    4.4/ 9    4.7/10
12:05  ABC  Jimmy Kimmel                 1.9/ 5    1.8/ 6    2.9/10    2.3/ 6    1.9/ 6

 8:00  CBS  Survivor Gabon               3.8/ 6    5.1/ 8    4.9/ 9    6.9/11    5.7/11
 9:00  CBS  CSI                          8.3/12    7.2/11    9.1/15   11.4/16   10.3/17
10:01  CBS  Eleventh Hour                5.6/ 9    6.1/11    6.9/11    7.5/12    8.5/14
11:35  CBS  Late Show/David Letterman    5.0/11    3.4/10    4.7/10    5.3/12    6.9/16
12:37  CBS  Late Late Show/Ferguson (R)  1.9/ 7    1.1/ 5    1.1/ 3    2.4/ 8    2.5/ 8

 8:00  NBC  My Name Is Earl              3.3/ 5    2.2/ 4    3.3/ 6    2.8/ 4    4.2/ 8
 8:30  NBC  Kath & Kim                   3.8/ 6    2.8/ 4    4.1/ 7    3.0/ 5    3.9/ 7
 9:00  NBC  The Office                   5.3/ 8    3.6/ 5    6.0/10    4.8/ 7    3.4/ 6
 9:31  NBC  SNL: Weekend Update          6.5/ 9    5.9/ 9    6.6/11    7.0/10    4.4/ 7
10:01  NBC  E.R.                         6.5/10    5.7/10    6.4/10    8.2/13    5.1/ 8
11:35  NBC  Tonight Show with Jay Leno   2.5/ 6    3.9/12    4.5/ 9    4.3/10    3.2/ 7
12:37  NBC  Late Night/Conan O'Brien     1.3/ 4    2.2/10    1.4/ 4    1.9/ 6    1.1/ 4
 1:36  NBC  Last Call/Carson Daly   (R)  0.7/ 3    1.8/10    0.8/ 3    1.4/ 6    0.5/ 2
 2:05  NBC  Poker After Dark             0.4/ 2    1.0/ 7              1.3/ 6    0.6/ 3

 8:00  FOX  Hole in the Wall             1.2/ 2    1.7/ 3    1.9/ 4    2.4/ 4    1.4/ 3
 8:30  FOX  Hole in the Wall             1.5/ 2    2.1/ 3    1.9/ 3    2.8/ 4    2.4/ 4
 9:00  FOX  Kitchen Nightmares           2.9/ 4    2.0/ 3    1.9/ 3    2.1/ 3    2.7/ 4

 8:00   CW  Smallville                   3.4/ 6    2.7/ 4    3.8/ 7    2.4/ 4    2.9/ 5
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                 2.8/ 4    2.5/ 4    3.6/ 6    1.7/ 2    2.2/ 3

 8:00  MNT  Movie: Antitrust        (R)  0.4/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.9/ 1    0.7/ 1

 8:00  ION  Movie: Matchstick Men        0.5/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.1/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.2/ 0
10:30  ION  M*A*S*H                 (R)  0.4/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.5/ 1    0.1/ 0


                                           # 6       # 7       # 8       # 9       #11
 Time  Net  Program                    SF/OAK/SJ     BOS       ATL     WSH DC      DET
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 8:00  ABC  Ugly Betty                   5.2/ 9    6.0/ 9    6.5/11    7.4/12    8.3/12
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy               7.5/13    9.6/14   10.3/16   10.0/15   13.0/18
10:01  ABC  Life on Mars                 5.5/12    5.2/ 8    6.3/11    5.8/10    8.3/13
11:35  ABC  Niteline                     1.3/ 4    1.8/ 4    4.0/ 9    3.2/ 7    6.9/14
12:05  ABC  Jimmy Kimmel                 0.6/ 3    1.0/ 3    1.9/ 5    2.1/ 6    3.0/ 8

 8:00  CBS  Survivor Gabon               6.5/12    6.9/11    5.5/ 9    6.4/10    5.7/ 9
 9:00  CBS  CSI                          9.0/16   10.7/15    8.9/14    9.7/15   10.0/14
10:01  CBS  Eleventh Hour                5.8/12    7.8/13    7.1/12    7.1/12    6.8/10
11:35  CBS  Late Show/David Letterman    4.2/15    3.0/ 7    4.1/10    5.4/13    5.0/11
12:37  CBS  Late Late Show/Ferguson (R)  2.5/13    1.9/ 8    0.8/ 3    1.6/ 6    1.6/ 5

 8:00  NBC  My Name Is Earl              2.2/ 4    4.1/ 7    2.1/ 4    5.3/ 9    4.7/ 7
 8:30  NBC  Kath & Kim                   2.4/ 4    4.5/ 7    1.7/ 3    4.8/ 8    3.8/ 6
 9:00  NBC  The Office                   3.2/ 6    6.7/10    3.7/ 6    6.0/ 9    3.3/ 5
 9:31  NBC  SNL: Weekend Update          4.0/ 7    7.6/11    4.1/ 6    7.1/11    5.5/ 8
10:01  NBC  E.R.                         3.6/ 8    7.1/12    4.5/ 8    7.0/12    7.1/11
11:35  NBC  Tonight Show with Jay Leno   2.6/ 9    2.2/ 5    3.2/ 8    4.8/12    6.7/15
12:37  NBC  Late Night/Conan O'Brien     1.0/ 5    1.1/ 5    1.3/ 4    1.7/ 6    2.8/ 9
 1:36  NBC  Last Call/Carson Daly   (R)  0.6/ 4    0.6/ 4    0.8/ 3    1.1/ 5    1.0/ 5
 2:05  NBC  Poker After Dark             0.4/ 3    0.2/ 1    0.5/ 3    0.7/ 4

 8:00  FOX  Hole in the Wall             1.6/ 3    0.7/ 1    2.5/ 4    1.9/ 3    3.2/ 5
 8:30  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.0/ 4    1.4/ 2    3.3/ 5    2.4/ 4    3.2/ 5
 9:00  FOX  Kitchen Nightmares           2.4/ 4    1.6/ 2    3.7/ 6    1.9/ 3    2.9/ 4

 8:00   CW  Smallville                   2.5/ 4    2.7/ 4    3.2/ 5    1.7/ 3    3.0/ 4
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                 1.3/ 2    1.3/ 2    2.0/ 3    1.7/ 3    2.6/ 4

 8:00  MNT  Movie: Antitrust        (R)  0.8/ 2    0.0/ 0:d  0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.3/ 0

 8:00  ION  Movie: Matchstick Men        0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.1/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.3/ 0
10:30  ION  M*A*S*H                 (R)  0.1/ 0    0.1/ 0    -.-/--    0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0

       :d   Only 18-49 demo data available


                                           #12       #13       #14       #15       #16
 Time  Net  Program                        PHX     TAM-StP   SEA-Tac  MIN-StPl   MIA-FtL
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 8:00  ABC  Ugly Betty                   4.8/ 8    2.6/ 4^^  6.0/ 9    5.1/ 9    4.9/ 8
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy               8.1/13    5.7/ 8^^ 10.8/18   10.7/17    7.9/11
10:01  ABC  Life on Mars                 4.7/ 8    3.9/ 7^^  6.3/13    5.8/ 9    4.9/ 8
11:35  ABC  Niteline                     1.5/ 3    1.1/ 2^^  1.5/ 6    2.5/ 5    3.2/ 7
12:05  ABC  Jimmy Kimmel                 0.8/ 3    0.6/ 2^^  1.0/ 5    0.7/ 3    1.3/ 4

 8:00  CBS  Survivor Gabon               4.6/ 8    4.0/ 7    8.9/14    8.7/15    3.9/ 6
 9:00  CBS  CSI                          9.9/16    8.1/12   11.4/19   12.3/20    6.5/ 9
10:01  CBS  Eleventh Hour                5.7/10    6.0/10    6.1/13    9.1/15    4.3/ 7
11:35  CBS  Late Show/David Letterman    4.4/11    3.1/ 7    3.1/12    9.1/20    4.4/10
12:37  CBS  Late Late Show/Ferguson (R)  0.7/ 3    1.7/ 6    1.2/ 6    2.0/ 7    1.6/ 5

 8:00  NBC  My Name Is Earl              2.7/ 5    4.3/ 7    6.3/10    4.5/ 8    1.8/ 3
 8:30  NBC  Kath & Kim                   3.3/ 6    3.3/ 5    5.6/ 9    5.7/10    1.9/ 3
 9:00  NBC  The Office                   3.7/ 6    3.4/ 5    6.7/11    5.9/10    2.8/ 4
 9:31  NBC  SNL: Weekend Update          5.0/ 8    3.7/ 5    7.8/13    6.0/10    3.6/ 5
10:01  NBC  E.R.                         6.4/11    3.8/ 6    5.7/12    8.9/14    4.3/ 7
11:35  NBC  Tonight Show with Jay Leno   4.5/11    2.5/ 6    2.8/11    4.6/10    2.5/ 6
12:37  NBC  Late Night/Conan O'Brien     2.2/ 8    1.5/ 5    1.4/ 7    1.8/ 6    0.8/ 3
 1:36  NBC  Last Call/Carson Daly   (R)  1.4/ 6    1.0/ 4    0.8/ 5    1.0/ 5    0.1/ 0
 2:05  NBC  Poker After Dark                       0.8/ 4                        0.0/ 0

 8:00  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.5/ 4    2.7/ 5    1.4/ 2    3.1/ 6    1.2/ 2
 8:30  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.7/ 4    2.7/ 4    1.6/ 2    3.3/ 6    1.5/ 2
 9:00  FOX  Kitchen Nightmares           3.0/ 5    2.0/ 3    1.5/ 2    3.4/ 6    2.1/ 3

 8:00   CW  Smallville                   2.7/ 5    1.7/ 3    2.3/ 4    1.5/ 3    2.7/ 4
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                 1.7/ 3    1.5/ 2    1.3/ 2    1.8/ 3    1.9/ 3

 8:00  MNT  Movie: Antitrust        (R)  0.8/ 1    0.5/ 1    0.3/ 1    1.2/ 2    0.8/ 1

 8:00  ION  Movie: Matchstick Men        0.8/ 1    0.5/ 1    0.3/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.3/ 0
10:30  ION  M*A*S*H                 (R)  0.5/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.7/ 1    0.3/ 1    0.2/ 0

        ^^  Combined rating of this market's two ABC affilates


                                           #17       #18       #19       #20       #21
 Time  Net  Program                      CLE-Akr     DEN    ORL-Dyta  SAC-Stkn     StL
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 8:00  ABC  Ugly Betty                   7.3/12    4.3/ 8    7.1/11    4.8/ 7    5.8/ 9
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy              11.5/17    5.9/10   10.3/15    9.3/14    7.6/11
10:01  ABC  Life on Mars                 6.1/10    4.0/ 7    5.9/ 9    7.0/13    4.6/ 7
11:35  ABC  Niteline                     1.6/ 3    1.1/ 3    4.4/ 8    1.8/ 5    1.2/ 2
12:05  ABC  Jimmy Kimmel                 1.0/ 3    0.9/ 4    1.8/ 4    1.1/ 4    0.3/ 1

 8:00  CBS  Survivor Gabon               6.1/10    6.0/11    7.2/11    8.5/14   10.5/17
 9:00  CBS  CSI                         14.2/21   10.0/16   11.8/17   17.2/26   17.0/25
10:01  CBS  Eleventh Hour                9.3/15    4.7/ 8    6.6/10    9.9/15   10.7/15
11:35  CBS  Late Show/David Letterman    5.0/12    4.8/14    4.0/ 8    4.8/13    8.0/15
12:37  CBS  Late Late Show/Ferguson (R)  2.1/ 7    1.9/ 8    1.5/ 5    2.3/ 9    2.0/ 6

 8:00  NBC  My Name Is Earl              5.1/ 9    3.5/ 7    3.5/ 5    5.3/ 8   10.2/17
 8:30  NBC  Kath & Kim                   4.5/ 7    3.6/ 6    3.5/ 5    5.3/ 8    8.2/13
 9:00  NBC  The Office                   5.3/ 8    6.0/10    3.1/ 5    7.3/11    6.9/10
 9:31  NBC  SNL: Weekend Update          6.6/10    7.8/12    3.9/ 6    7.7/12   11.8/17
10:01  NBC  E.R.                         6.9/11    8.4/15    5.6/ 9    7.8/15   12.7/18
11:35  NBC  Tonight Show with Jay Leno   3.8/ 9    4.9/14    3.0/ 6    3.8/13    8.7/16
12:37  NBC  Late Night/Conan O'Brien     1.8/ 6    2.0/ 8    0.9/ 3    3.3/15    3.7/10
 1:36  NBC  Last Call/Carson Daly   (R)  0.7/ 3    1.0/ 5    0.2/ 1    1.8/10    2.1/ 7
 2:05  NBC  Poker After Dark             0.9/ 4              0.4/ 1    1.5/10

 8:00  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.4/ 4    2.2/ 4    1.6/ 2    1.8/ 3    4.0/ 6
 8:30  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.7/ 4    1.9/ 3    1.6/ 2    2.0/ 3    2.8/ 4
 9:00  FOX  Kitchen Nightmares           2.3/ 4    2.8/ 5    2.5/ 4    2.0/ 3    3.3/ 5

 8:00   CW  Smallville                   3.2/ 5    2.0/ 4    3.4/ 5    1.5/ 2    4.2/ 6
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                 1.8/ 3    0.8/ 1    2.0/ 3    1.2/ 2    4.3/ 6

 8:00  MNT  Movie: Antitrust        (R)  0.7/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1

 8:00  ION  Movie: Matchstick Men        0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.9/ 1    0.5/ 1
10:30  ION  M*A*S*H                 (R)  0.3/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.3/ 0    0.4/ 1


                                           #22       #23       #24       #25
 Time  Net  Program                        POR       PIT      CHAR       IND
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 8:00  ABC  Ugly Betty                   6.2/11    8.8/13    7.9/13    5.2/ 8
 9:00  ABC  Grey's Anatomy               9.3/16   13.0/18   10.7/16    8.6/13
10:01  ABC  Life on Mars                 5.3/11    6.1/ 9    6.5/10    5.6/ 9
11:35  ABC  Niteline                     1.4/ 5    4.3/ 9    4.4/10    2.6/ 6
12:05  ABC  Jimmy Kimmel                 0.8/ 4    2.3/ 6    3.0/ 9    1.6/ 5

 8:00  CBS  Survivor Gabon              12.9/22   11.8/17    7.7/12    9.7/16
 9:00  CBS  CSI                         14.8/25   17.5/24   11.5/17   15.1/22
10:01  CBS  Eleventh Hour                9.4/19   12.1/17    8.2/13    8.0/13
11:35  CBS  Late Show/David Letterman    4.7/17    7.3/16    6.0/15    7.7/19
12:37  CBS  Late Late Show/Ferguson (R)  1.6/ 9    2.4/ 7    2.2/ 8    4.6/16

 8:00  NBC  My Name Is Earl              5.8/10    7.6/11    4.3/ 7    8.8/15
 8:30  NBC  Kath & Kim                   4.5/ 8    5.0/ 7    3.0/ 5    7.0/11
 9:00  NBC  The Office                   7.1/12    6.1/ 8    4.0/ 6   10.6/16
 9:31  NBC  SNL: Weekend Update          8.2/14    7.8/10    5.1/ 8   12.5/18
10:01  NBC  E.R.                         7.5/15   14.1/20    4.4/ 7    8.7/15
11:35  NBC  Tonight Show with Jay Leno   3.3/12    7.2/15    3.7/ 9    5.1/12
12:37  NBC  Late Night/Conan O'Brien     2.4/12    3.7/11    1.6/ 6    2.1/ 7
 1:36  NBC  Last Call/Carson Daly   (R)  1.7/13    2.2/ 8    1.4/ 6    2.1/ 9
 2:05  NBC  Poker After Dark             0.8/ 7    1.8/ 7    0.7/ 4

 8:00  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.1/ 4    0.8/ 1    2.6/ 4    2.7/ 4
 8:30  FOX  Hole in the Wall             2.5/ 4    1.2/ 2    3.8/ 6    4.5/ 7
 9:00  FOX  Kitchen Nightmares           2.5/ 4    2.0/ 3    1.8/ 3    3.5/ 5

 8:00   CW  Smallville                   4.1/ 7    1.9/ 3    3.1/ 5    2.8/ 5
 9:00   CW  Supernatural                 1.5/ 2    1.5/ 2    4.1/ 6    1.7/ 2

 8:00  MNT  Movie: Antitrust        (R)  0.6/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1

 8:00  ION  Movie: Matchstick Men        0.6/ 1                        0.6/ 1
10:30  ION  M*A*S*H                 (R)  -.-/--                        0.4/ 1


-.-/-- = household rating was not registered for this program

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