Originally posted by mushu_jj: That's okay with me. Crime work in the 70s was much less complex than it is today with all the forensic stuff.
'all the forensic stuff' should be called 'sci-fi' the way those insipid police procedurals use it.
I do agree with that statement. Its the Science aspect that I like about the current shows. Otherwise, I might as well watch repeats of Jake & The Fat Man, Barnaby Jones or Kojak for a "Cop Show".
there's always a different view. All depends on which way you look.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Are you a cousin to vlis????
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Originally posted by hermitme: Another way to view it is that many people tune in early to catch Supernatural and inflate Smallville's numbers in the last half hour. Then when those not interested in Supernatural tune out, the numbers decrease in the last half hour.
CBS Likely to Win Week 4 -- Third Consecutive Week on Top
CBS is once again having a very good week, and is in a solid first place in demo and viewers. By virtue of its strong Thursday numbers, ABC has climbed out of fourth into third (yes, NBC is in third place this week and likely to hold on to it). And MyNetworkTV is the one and only broadcast network to be showing year-over-year gains in A18-49 demo and viewers.
Week 4, Four Nights (Monday to Thursday)
# Network A18-49 (%YOY) Millions of Viewers (%YOY)
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1. CBS 3.40 (-11%) 12.070 (-6%)
2. NBC 3.13 (-9%) 7.868 (-11%)
3. ABC 2.83 (-28%) 10.120 (-16%)
4. FOX 2.68 (-21%) 7.463 (-28%)
5. CW 1.23 (-21%) 2.725 (-21%)
6. MNT 0.53 (+31%) 1.370 (+32%) <-first 3 nights only
YOY - Year-Over-Year
I am working on a Best of Halloween column for my Mr. TV column. Does anyone have any favorite episodes of TV shows I should include?
"Halloween" from Season 2 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer - where the characters "acquired" the personalities of the costumes they were wearing (soldier, ghost, helpless 18th century maiden). It was a series classic!
Originally posted by JimmyU: I just want to go on the record and say that Kath and Kim is a bland, unfunny and just plain bad show. It's not the American version of Coupling bad, but bad still the same.
TVbythenumbers has some interesting statistics. This is their results for Thursday at 10 PM (total audience, 18 to 49, 18 to 34):
10:00 CBS Eleventh Hour 12.04 3.2/9 2.1/6 NBC ER 8.81 3.6/10 2.1/6 ABC Life on Mars 8.47 2.7/7 2.1/6
The interesting thing is all three shows performed the same in the age group 18 to 34. CBS being older skewing of course doesn't fare well in that category. ER skews older too and doesn't do well in the 18 to 34 demos compared to 18 to 49. However, LOM performs very well in 18 to 34 compared to 18 to 49 demos. This is a group that ABC has said they want to target and if they highlight that demo, LOM will have an extended stay. It is younger skewing, bringing the networks total average age down (always a bonus for advertisers). We know ABC cares about total age average because that killed WMC last year and its average age of over 50.
I am working on a Best of Halloween column for my Mr. TV column. Does anyone have any favorite episodes of TV shows I should include?
"Halloween" from Season 2 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer - where the characters "acquired" the personalities of the costumes they were wearing (soldier, ghost, helpless 18th century maiden). It was a series classic!
Originally posted by Shannon: Can someone tell me where you find these little icons that several people have in their signature of different shows? Thanks.
Supernatural numbers always go down. This show should be on the losers list this week. Retention out of Smallville blew.
Smallville had 4.15 million viewers and 1.7 in A18-49 demo against shows with 12.88 mm, 4.2 A18-49 8.21 mm, 2.6 A18-49 6.54 mm, 2.6 a18-49
Supernatural had 3.06 mm and 1.2 in A18-49 with a 74% and 71% retention against shows with 18.84 mm, 5.1 A18-49 18.04 mm, 7.3 A18-49 8.61 mm, 4.1 A18-49
Originally posted by ynot716: ABC needs to reinvent itself as it did the year that DH and Lost came on. They need a show or two that are buzz worthy. I don't see any current show (outside of DH or Lost) or any new shows on the horizon that will do this. They better have a big plan for Fall of 09
I agree, but I don't think they have the guts to make it happen. That happened in the first year of McPherson and they risked everything on LOST and DH -- the gamble paid off, but nothing else has gone right since. Almost every scheduling move made since has been a mistake, and obviously the development slate after McPherson took over just hasn't been as strong (or they've been picking the wrong shows).
The window for ABC is almost completely shut: they've failed to launch even 1 truly hit show in the timeslots following DH, LOST, Grey's, and Dancing, when they used to be mega-hits at or near 20 million viewers (with some peaking much higher than that). And now 3 of those 4 shows are under 15 million, a shadow of their former ratings selves.
If one were generous, they could point to Grey's as a successful launch after DH, but that was almost a lucky stumble: they had originally planned to only pre-empt BL for 4 weeks, where anyone could see Grey's had hit written all over it from the pilot episode...
Also, with CBS procedurals doing exceedingly well, and ABC's serial shows largely tanking, I'm afraid we'll have a relapse of that season a few years ago when all the broadcast networks went on a procedural binge. I may give up on tv entirely if that were to happen...
Originally posted by Marc Berman: I will second that!
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Originally posted by JimmyU: I just want to go on the record and say that Kath and Kim is a bland, unfunny and just plain bad show. It's not the American version of Coupling bad, but bad still the same.
Agree. Marc, do you can post a half hour breakdown for Eleventh Hour? And do you think this season will be the last for Old Christine or not?
there's always a different view. All depends on which way you look. 
