Prime-Time Ratings:
Thursday 9/04/08

-Total Viewers:
NBC: 11.73 million, CBS: 6.27, Fox: 5.27, ABC: 4.43, CW: 2.12

-Adults 18-49:

NBC: 4.7 rating/13 share, Fox: 2.4/ 7, CBS: 1.8/ 5, ABC: 1.2/ 3, CW: 1.0/ 3
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-Countdown to the Fall Season:
17 days

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
Football: Washington Redskins vs. New York Giants (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (excluding repeats):
Kitchen Nightmares (Fox)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
It was an easy victory for NBC, with the season opening NFL Football match-up between the Washington Redskins and the New York Giants at an estimated 13.57 million viewers and a 5.4 rating/15 share among adults 18-49 for the prime-time (8-10 p.m.) portion. Comparably, however, the year-ago kick-off between Indianapolis and New Orleans scored a heftier 17.79 million viewers and a 7.4/22 in the demo on Thursday, Sept. 7, 2006. And the Miami/Pittsburgh match-up one year before that (on Sept. 7, 2006) averaged 19.20 million viewers and a 7.8/23 among adults 18-49. Keep in mind, of course, that fast affiliate results for any live sporting event are always approximate.

Over at the CBS, Big Brother 10 opened the evening with a second-place 6.46 million viewers and a 2.2 7 among adults 18-49 (tied with Fox) at 8 p.m. So long, Renny! And go Dan! That led into a repeat of CSI at 7.27 million viewers (#2) and a 1.9/ 5 among adults 18-49 (#3) from 9-10 p.m.

In season-premiere news, a two-hour edition of Fox’s Kitchen Nightmares averaged a modest 5.27 million viewers (#3) and a second-place 2.4/ 7 among adults 18-49 from 8-10 p.m., building in each half-hour as follows:

Kitchen Nightmares (Fox)
8:00 p.m. – Viewers: 4.92 million (#3), A18-49: 2.1/ 7 (#3)
8:30 p.m. – Viewers: 5.00 million (#3), A18-49: 2.3/ 7 (#2t)
9:00 p.m. – Viewers: 5.45 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#2)
9:30 p.m. – Viewers: 5.70 million (#3), A18-49: 2.7/ 7 (#2)

Compared to it’s year-ago debut (Viewers: 6.61 million; A18-49: 3.1/ 8 on Sept. 19, 2007), Kitchen Nightmares was down by 1.34 million viewers and 23 percent among adults 18-49.

ABC aired repeats of Ugly Betty (Viewers: #4, 4.15 million; A18-49: #4, 1.1/ 3) and Grey’s Anatomy (Viewers: #4, 4.18 million; A18-49: #4, 1.2/ 3) from 8-10 p.m. And the CW capped off the block with a repeat of the two-hour 90210 kick-off at 2.12 million viewers and a 1.0/ 3 in the demo. Not bad for a repeat.

Night four of the Republican Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 8.06 million, A18-49: 3.2/ 9
CBS – Viewers: 5.08 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
ABC – Viewers: 4.97 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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dumont
Posted 05 September 2008 12:05 PM Hide Post
Marc, I think you may have dated your posting incorrectly...shouldn't it be Thursday 9/04/08?
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A.C. Posted 05 September 2008 12:13 PM Hide Post
Counting the minutes before thread goes *poof*

Saving my comments for the new thread Marc will probably create.
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dumont
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Last night speech by Senator McCain appears to have done about 10% better than Senator Obama's in the FAST Nationals, although the NBC numbers may be inflated a bit by the NFL over-run.


quote:
Night four of the Republican Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 8.06 million, A18-49: 3.2/ 9
CBS – Viewers: 5.08 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
ABC – Viewers: 4.97 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
4 NETS: Viewers: 18.11 million, A18-49: 6.0/17

Night four of the Democratic Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 6.27 million, A18-49: 2.3/ 7
ABC – Viewers: 5.73 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5
CBS – Viewers: 4.46 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 4
4 NETS: Viewers: 16.46 million, A18-49: 5.4/16

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dumont
Posted 05 September 2008 12:16 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by A.C.:
Counting the minutes before thread goes *poof*

Saving my comments for the new thread Marc will probably create.

But it's very easy to change the date. You just go into edit post, and then change the title (date) in the file folder at the top.
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dumont
Posted 05 September 2008 12:27 PM Hide Post
The CW Holds on to Third Place in A18-49 Demo After 4 Nights of Week 50

The CW's (and FOX's) decisions to open their fall skeds three weeks ahead of ABC, CBS and NBC (and five weeks ahead of MyNetworkTV) is paying nice dividends for both networks, with FOX in second place in A18-49 and viewers, while The CW is sitting pretty in third place in A18-49, although it has fallen to fifth place in viewers. ABC is having a weak week so far and is mired in fifth place in A18-49, serving as sparring partner for MyNetworkTV this week.

Week 50, First 4 Nights (Sep.1-4/08)
A18-49 Rank. Network: A18-49 / Viewers (finals)
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1. NBC: 3.05 / 9,925,000 (1st)
2. FOX: 2.70 / 6,980,000 (2nd)
3. The CW: 1.75 / 3,403,000 (5th)
4. CBS: 1.63 / 5,675,000 (3rd)
5. ABC: 1.20 / 3,790,000 (4th)
6. MNT: 0.40 / 1,073,000 (6th) -> first 3 nights
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robert Posted 05 September 2008 12:33 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by dumont:
Last night speech by Senator McCain appears to have done about 10% better than Senator Obama's in the FAST Nationals, although the NBC numbers may be inflated a bit by the NFL over-run.


quote:
Night four of the Republican Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 8.06 million, A18-49: 3.2/ 9
CBS – Viewers: 5.08 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
ABC – Viewers: 4.97 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
4 NETS: Viewers: 18.11 million, A18-49: 6.0/17

Night four of the Democratic Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 6.27 million, A18-49: 2.3/ 7
ABC – Viewers: 5.73 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5
CBS – Viewers: 4.46 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 4
4 NETS: Viewers: 16.46 million, A18-49: 5.4/16



Without NBC's inflation those numbers would be equal
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WlcmDoNotDisturb90210 Posted 05 September 2008 12:33 PM Hide Post
Those ratings for Kitchen Nightmares are horrible for its season premiere. Way too low. Hole In The Wall isn't going to help FOX Thursdays and if Kitchen Nightmares doesn't pick up, the night will be DOA. FOX isn't having a good week with both PB and KN bombing in the ratings.

Continuing with FOX, today is another huge day for them. We will see if the game show shift paid off and if AYSTA5thG can get something going on Fridays.

NBC football probably should have been a little higher, but NBC isn't complaining. Good numbers for them.

Really good numbers for a 90210 repeat. About double what GG/OTH repeats do. It's probably because the show is so new but still, they have to be happy about that.


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ChrTh
Posted 05 September 2008 12:45 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by WlcmDoNotDisturb90210:
Really good numbers for a 90210 repeat. About double what GG/OTH repeats do. It's probably because everyone heard about the oral sex scene and wanted to see it, they have to be happy about that.


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RoyBoyCF Posted 05 September 2008 01:01 PM Hide Post
I think now, I'd be HAPPY to see BB go down. I just know the person I hated from the start will win. :/


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AL Posted 05 September 2008 01:11 PM Hide Post
quote:
NBC football probably should have been a little higher, but NBC isn't complaining. Good numbers for them.


The football would definitely done better had it not been for the 7PM Eastern / 4PM Pacific start time, due to the Republican Convention. NBC really got screwed because of that. When word first came out that their was a conflict with the NFL opener and the convention, I thought that the NFL and NBC would simply move the game to Friday night, instead of starting at an earlier time last night. I think they would have done better. I know Friday night is a much lower HUT night, but the NFL has proven that it gets ratings on any night of the week.
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Milcus Posted 05 September 2008 01:37 PM Hide Post
Kitchen Nightmares did go up against football, and it wasn't even a brand new episode per se. I dont think people really wanted to see a 10 minute recap of last year's episodes with a 3/4 minute summary of what happened a year later.

As for the RNC, I am a little surprised McCain got more viewers than Obama. What that says is either that the media is exaggerating how much of a Democratic year this is, that Sarah Palin has energized people about the Republican Party, and/or that people wanted to hear what McCain had to say..

And I have to say, McCain is not a good public speaker. At times it felt like I was watching paint dry. However, he did lay out (without really attacking Obama or going into too many issues) why he should be President. However, I think that it is fair to say that many people who are going to vote Republican would much prefer a Palin/Jindal ticket after hearing Palin speak than a McCain/Palin ticket because the new star of the party should not be the VP candidate...

But with that said, I think the VP debates should get some very good ratings, and the Presidential debates should get solid numbers as well..
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SW Posted 05 September 2008 01:38 PM Hide Post
Should we cut Kitchen Nightmares a bit of slack in that its debut last year was a couple of weeks later, when the 'real' television season had begun and more folks were watching TV?


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Ignored post by SW posted 05 September 2008 01:38 PM Show Post

xwiseguyx
Posted 05 September 2008 01:43 PM Hide Post
What McCain had to say about uniting everyone blah blah blah didn't match the bashing tone that everyone else had in their speeches. He should start by uniting his own group.


quote:
Originally posted by Milcus:
As for the RNC, I am a little surprised McCain got more viewers than Obama. What that says is either that the media is exaggerating how much of a Democratic year this is, that Sarah Palin has energized people about the Republican Party, and/or that people wanted to hear what McCain had to say..

And I have to say, McCain is not a good public speaker. At times it felt like I was watching paint dry. However, he did lay out (without really attacking Obama or going into too many issues) why he should be President. However, I think that it is fair to say that many people who are going to vote Republican would much prefer a Palin/Jindal ticket after hearing Palin speak than a McCain/Palin ticket because the new star of the party should not be the VP candidate...

But with that said, I think the VP debates should get some very good ratings, and the Presidential debates should get solid numbers as well..


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TV-aholic
Posted 05 September 2008 02:03 PM Hide Post
There realy was no over run by football. They switched over to the convention at 10:01, by the clock on my DVR
quote:
Originally posted by dumont:
Last night speech by Senator McCain appears to have done about 10% better than Senator Obama's in the FAST Nationals, although the NBC numbers may be inflated a bit by the NFL over-run.


quote:
Night four of the Republican Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 8.06 million, A18-49: 3.2/ 9
CBS – Viewers: 5.08 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
ABC – Viewers: 4.97 million, A18-49: 1.4/ 4
4 NETS: Viewers: 18.11 million, A18-49: 6.0/17

Night four of the Democratic Convention fared as follows in the overnights at 10 p.m.:

NBC – Viewers: 6.27 million, A18-49: 2.3/ 7
ABC – Viewers: 5.73 million, A18-49: 1.8/ 5
CBS – Viewers: 4.46 million, A18-49: 1.3/ 4
4 NETS: Viewers: 16.46 million, A18-49: 5.4/16



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Obveeus Posted 05 September 2008 02:05 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by robert:
Without NBC's inflation those numbers would be equal
The timing for the finish of the NFL game could not have been more perfect. What was the plan if the game had run longer? Would NBC have cut away to cover MCain? Would McCain have waited for the NFL game to end? Would McCain have 'gone live' without one of the big3 covering his speech?
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Obveeus Posted 05 September 2008 02:10 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by SW:
Should we cut Kitchen Nightmares a bit of slack in that its debut last year was a couple of weeks later, when the 'real' television season had begun and more folks were watching TV?
Very few shows have started the new Fall season. It will take a few more weeks to really sort out what the ratings mean.

Could be any or all of the following;

1. Early starts lead to lower ratings and they will grow when cold weather and darkness come.

2. Low early ratings are a sign of the continuing drop in live TV viewing across the broadcast spectrum and most/all shows can expect lower ratings this year.

3. Shows like Kitchen Nightmares and ANTM are just dying of old age.
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ChrTh
Posted 05 September 2008 02:20 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Obveeus:

quote:
Originally posted by SW:
Should we cut Kitchen Nightmares a bit of slack in that its debut last year was a couple of weeks later, when the 'real' television season had begun and more folks were watching TV?
Very few shows have started the new Fall season. It will take a few more weeks to really sort out what the ratings mean.



Exactly. As any scientist/statistician will tell you, 1 data point is not enough to predict a trend.


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Ignored post by ChrTh posted 05 September 2008 02:20 PM Show Post

TAYLORJNG
Posted 05 September 2008 02:22 PM Hide Post
quote:
3. Shows like Kitchen Nightmares and ANTM are just dying of old age.


Kitchen Nightmares is in its 2nd season. I agree about ANTM, though.
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Obveeus Posted 05 September 2008 02:29 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by TAYLORJNG:

quote:
3. Shows like Kitchen Nightmares and ANTM are just dying of old age.


Kitchen Nightmares is in its 2nd season.
Not really...Hell's Kitchen is the same schtick.
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TV-aholic
Posted 05 September 2008 02:33 PM Hide Post
Not really. One is a competiton show, the other is NOT. They just both happen to be hosted by the same person.


quote:
Originally posted by Obveeus:

quote:
Originally posted by TAYLORJNG:

quote:
3. Shows like Kitchen Nightmares and ANTM are just dying of old age.


Kitchen Nightmares is in its 2nd season.
Not really...Hell's Kitchen is the same schtick.


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yankeesrj12 Posted 05 September 2008 02:52 PM Hide Post
IMO, Kitchen Nightmares didnt do all that bad. It was two hours of blah last night. It was kind of boring, but I did like seeing if the restraunts today. However, it is better when they actually fix the restraunt because we get to see Ramsey flip out. Plus didnt Kitchen Nightmares pick up speed later on in the first season?

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Obveeus Posted 05 September 2008 02:58 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Not really. One is a competiton show, the other is NOT. They just both happen to be hosted by the same person.
Yes, the same person doing the same schtick. When people grow weary of him on one show, the other show is bound to drop as well, don't you think?
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BlueLick Posted 05 September 2008 03:30 PM Hide Post
Are You Ready For Some Football? The NFL helps TV find its first 13+ million audience since the Olympics

The NFL is still very dominant especially in the key demos making money for networks, but the ratings last night were down year to year. Alot of this had to do with the early start and a one-sided game. The timeslot works for the NFL, but if you want a viewership over 15 million its got to come on later so you can get the mountain and pacific time zone audiences. The NFL probably would've reached over 15 million had it aired the kickoff special, which airs tonight 9pm and started at 8:30pm/et.

The 7pm timeslot is more favorable to east coast audiences b/c the game will end early. Also NBC didn't get the chance to start the game 0-0 inside of the 8-11pm hours. The score was already in favor of the Giants by 8pm, which could make people decide not to watch it.
The rating is still very good especially in this day in age where getting over 7 million takes alot of work. I feel the NFL is victim of their own previous success as they set new highs which are hard to reach.

Over on FOX, Kitchen Nightmares failed and it might be time to get 5th Grader back over to Thursdays b/c this show is the real deal. I can feel 7-9 million easily tonight for 5th Grader. Its all about Hell's Kitchen for this Ramsey franchise and they might want to just stick to HK with two seasons a year. These numbers are on par with Moment of Truth and I don't think the performance is that bad b/c the demos were close to 3, but HH and viewers numbers are more attracted to a summer performance.

McCain and Obama will make an interesting ratings night on November 4. This race will go down as the most popular and well received in US history.

BB10, it doesn't matter what put up against this show it will succeed no doubt about it. I personally am mad at this show as it is totally watered down since Ollie and Michelle left and now Renny. OMG! This might be the worst BB finish in history, Dan and Memphis don't deserve to with $100,000 like some past evicted players should've gotten.

90210 has replay value and that's important getting over 2 million viewers on its own. I think 90210 will stabilize in the low 4s next week.

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Julie Posted 05 September 2008 03:54 PM Hide Post
Kitchen Nightmares dying of old age? I hope you're not serious - it's only in its second season, and its first season wasn't even a full season. Last night's episode wasn't even techinically the season premiere - it was just the recap episode before the season opener, like a lot of shows do (or used to do). 5 million against Football for a recap episode is not bad at all - I think, though, that FOX should have kept 5th Grader/Lyrics on Thursday with Wall/Nightmares on Fridays.
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xwiseguyx
Posted 05 September 2008 04:12 PM Hide Post
Last Season they had only 10 eps. I enjoyed the Season Premiere myself but I could see how some just saw it as a recap type of episode hence the lower numbers.


quote:
Originally posted by Julie:
Kitchen Nightmares dying of old age? I hope you're not serious - it's only in its second season, and its first season wasn't even a full season. Last night's episode wasn't even techinically the season premiere - it was just the recap episode before the season opener, like a lot of shows do (or used to do). 5 million against Football for a recap episode is not bad at all - I think, though, that FOX should have kept 5th Grader/Lyrics on Thursday with Wall/Nightmares on Fridays.


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Julie Posted 05 September 2008 04:17 PM Hide Post
I enjoyed it, too. I anjoy Hell's Kitchen a litle more than Nightmares, but both are still good shows. Something different to watch on Thursday nights this season.
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Milcus Posted 05 September 2008 05:32 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Last Season they had only 10 eps. I enjoyed the Season Premiere myself but I could see how some just saw it as a recap type of episode hence the lower numbers.


quote:
Originally posted by Julie:
Kitchen Nightmares dying of old age? I hope you're not serious - it's only in its second season, and its first season wasn't even a full season. Last night's episode wasn't even techinically the season premiere - it was just the recap episode before the season opener, like a lot of shows do (or used to do). 5 million against Football for a recap episode is not bad at all - I think, though, that FOX should have kept 5th Grader/Lyrics on Thursday with Wall/Nightmares on Fridays.


The show definitely is not dying after 10 episodes. However, I just finished watching the episode, and it really was nothing but 10 minute recaps of last yeasr episodes and then 4 minute happy ending summaries. It was dreadful to watch.

I kind of wished 2/3 of the restaurants would have tanked because that would have made it more interesting.


quote:
What McCain had to say about uniting everyone blah blah blah didn't match the bashing tone that everyone else had in their speeches. He should start by uniting his own group.


But that is who McCain is and its exactly why Republicans still dont really like him. There were 4/5 times yesterday when he said things where you could see the people in the audience were uncomfortable and they responded with lukewarm responses.

However, Sarah Palin has single-handidly united the Republican base. And the biggest thing to come out of the RNC is going to be her rise..
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Obveeus Posted 05 September 2008 05:33 PM Hide Post
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/
Viewer numbers for McCain speech:
9.2M FOX News
8.7M NBC
6.0M ABC
5.3M CBS
4.8M CNN
2.5M MSNBC

Also, FOX News averaged 7.4M viewers for the primetime period so the earlier interview with Obama must have also done well for them.
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CaseyM Posted 05 September 2008 06:41 PM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Milcus:

quote:
Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Last Season they had only 10 eps. I enjoyed the Season Premiere myself but I could see how some just saw it as a recap type of episode hence the lower numbers.


quote:
Originally posted by Julie:
Kitchen Nightmares dying of old age? I hope you're not serious - it's only in its second season, and its first season wasn't even a full season. Last night's episode wasn't even techinically the season premiere - it was just the recap episode before the season opener, like a lot of shows do (or used to do). 5 million against Football for a recap episode is not bad at all - I think, though, that FOX should have kept 5th Grader/Lyrics on Thursday with Wall/Nightmares on Fridays.


The show definitely is not dying after 10 episodes. However, I just finished watching the episode, and it really was nothing but 10 minute recaps of last yeasr episodes and then 4 minute happy ending summaries. It was dreadful to watch.

I kind of wished 2/3 of the restaurants would have tanked because that would have made it more interesting.


quote:
What McCain had to say about uniting everyone blah blah blah didn't match the bashing tone that everyone else had in their speeches. He should start by uniting his own group.


But that is who McCain is and its exactly why Republicans still dont really like him. There were 4/5 times yesterday when he said things where you could see the people in the audience were uncomfortable and they responded with lukewarm responses.

However, Sarah Palin has single-handidly united the Republican base. And the biggest thing to come out of the RNC is going to be her rise..


I wonder how McCain feels about the media attention and the popularity of Palin with the Republicans gathers?
I know that he wanted to generate more attention on him by picking Palin as VP, but I don't see him liking it for a bit.



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You could of just edited the title...

The CW Holds on to Third Place in A18-49 Demo After 4 Nights of Week 50

Updated for final numbers, NBC made some nice gains from the FAST Nationals in viewers and demo and leads in first place. FOX in second place in A18-49 and viewers, while The CW is still sitting pretty in third place in A18-49, although it has fallen to fifth place in viewers. CBS is fourth in demo, but third in viewers, while ABC, which is having a weak week so far and is mired in fifth place in A18-49 and fourth in viewers.

Week 50, First 4 Nights (Sep.1-4/08)
A18-49 Rank. Network: A18-49 / Viewers
(updated to include final results)
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1. NBC: 3.15 / 10,153,000 (1st)
2. FOX: 2.70 / 6,983,000 (2nd)
3. The CW: 1.75 / 3,350,000 (5th)
4. CBS: 1.63 / 5,690,000 (3rd)
5. ABC: 1.20 / 3,800,000 (4th)
6. MNT: 0.40 / 1,283,000 (6th)

Interesting to note that MyNetworkTV's world broadcast premiere of "The Contractor" tied '90210' in viewers (both attracted 1,910,000 viewers), even though it trailed the Beverly Hills drama by a wide margin in A18-49, 1.0 vs. 0.4.

Also, based on ABC's decision to pull NAScar this Saturday, and play an encore theatrical, The CW may just prevail over ABC in the A18-49 demographic, which would be a first for the network. Beating out CBS remains a long-shot.

No, you can't. For some reason that option is not there.

quote:

Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
You could of just edited the title...

Not bad, but we'll see what happens when the regular season begins.

quote:

Originally posted by dumont:
The CW Holds on to Third Place in A18-49 Demo After 4 Nights of Week 50

Updated for final numbers, NBC made some nice gains from the FAST Nationals in viewers and demo and leads in first place. FOX in second place in A18-49 and viewers, while The CW is still sitting pretty in third place in A18-49, although it has fallen to fifth place in viewers. CBS is fourth in demo, but third in viewers, while ABC, which is having a weak week so far and is mired in fifth place in A18-49 and fourth in viewers.

Week 50, First 4 Nights (Sep.1-4/08)
A18-49 Rank. Network: A18-49 / Viewers
(updated to include final results)
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1. NBC: 3.15 / 10,153,000 (1st)
2. FOX: 2.70 / 6,983,000 (2nd)
3. The CW: 1.75 / 3,350,000 (5th)
4. CBS: 1.63 / 5,690,000 (3rd)
5. ABC: 1.20 / 3,800,000 (4th)
6. MNT: 0.40 / 1,283,000 (6th)

Interesting to note that MyNetworkTV's world broadcast premiere of "The Contractor" tied '90210' in viewers (both attracted 1,910,000 viewers), even though it trailed the Beverly Hills drama by a wide margin in A18-49, 1.0 vs. 0.4.

Also, based on ABC's decision to pull NAScar this Saturday, and play an encore theatrical, The CW may just prevail over ABC in the A18-49 demographic, which would be a first for the network. Beating out CBS remains a long-shot.

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Berman:
No, you can't. For some reason that option is not there.

quote:

Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
You could of just edited the title...

Oh.

Top 20 Markets (& Indianapolis) : Overnight Household Ratings-Primetime
Thursday, September 4

                                           # 1       # 2       # 3       # 4       # 5
 Time  Net  Program                         NY        LA       CHI       PHI       DAL
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 7:00  NBC  NFL Kickoff: WSH @ NYG      12.6/20    5.0/11^   9.0/15   12.9/21   10.6/18

 8:00  CBS  Big Brother 10               2.1/ 3    2.8/ 5    2.2/ 4    3.5/ 6    2.8/ 5
       FOX  Kitchen Nightmares     (SP)  3.9/ 6    4.7/ 8    4.2/ 7    3.3/ 5    3.0/ 5
       ABC  Ugly Betty              (R)  3.2/ 5    3.9/ 6    4.1/ 7    4.0/ 6    2.7/ 5
        CW  90210                   (R)  2.0/ 3    2.9/ 5    4.6/ 8    1.1/ 2    1.6/ 3
       MNT  Movie: The Contractor        2.1/ 3    1.4/ 2    2.3/ 4    2.5/ 4    2.1/ 3
       ION  Movie: Blade Runner          0.5/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.9/ 1    0.5/ 1

 9:00  CBS  CSI                     (R)  3.8/ 6    3.2/ 5    3.1/ 5    6.0/ 9    4.9/ 8
       ABC  Grey's Anatomy          (R)  3.1/ 5    3.2/ 5    3.4/ 5    2.5/ 4    3.3/ 5

10:00  NBC  Democratic Convention        7.1/11    3.3/ 6^   6.7/10    6.7/11    5.3/ 8
       ABC  Democratic Convention        4.0/ 6    5.9/10^   5.6/ 9    5.7/ 9    6.5/10
       CBS  Democratic Convention        2.8/ 4    1.8/ 3^   3.0/ 5    3.0/ 5    3.2/ 5

10:30  ION  Drew Carey Show         (R)  0.6/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.7/ 1    0.4/ 1

        ^   West Coast markets aired this event live, before primetime


                                           # 6       # 7       # 8       # 9       #10
 Time  Net  Program                    SF/OAK/SJ     BOS       ATL     WSH DC      HOU
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 7:00  NBC  NFL Kickoff: WSH @ NYG       5.9/15^   9.5/15    8.4/14   26.0/41    6.2/10

 8:00  CBS  Big Brother 10               3.0/ 6    4.0/ 6    3.5/ 6    2.9/ 4    5.2/ 9
       FOX  Kitchen Nightmares     (SP)  1.9/ 4    4.4/ 7    3.2/ 5    2.7/ 4    2.3/ 4
       ABC  Ugly Betty              (R)  1.9/ 4    2.8/ 4    3.7/ 6    2.6/ 4    2.4/ 4
        CW  90210                   (R)  1.1/ 2    1.7/ 3    1.9/ 3    1.2/ 2    2.3/ 4
       MNT  Movie: The Contractor        0.8/ 2              2.5/ 4    0.6/ 1    1.3/ 2
       ION  Movie: Blade Runner          0.4/ 1    0.5/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.5/ 1

 9:00  CBS  CSI                     (R)  2.8/ 5    6.0/ 9    3.5/ 5    2.8/ 4    5.7/ 9
       ABC  Grey's Anatomy          (R)  2.2/ 5    3.6/ 6    3.2/ 5    3.3/ 5    3.3/ 5

10:00  NBC  Democratic Convention        3.7/ 8^   5.9/10    5.0/ 8   11.4/18    4.7/ 7
       ABC  Democratic Convention        3.5/ 7^   3.9/ 7    3.7/ 6    4.3/ 7    4.3/ 6
       CBS  Democratic Convention        1.8/ 4^   3.1/ 5    1.0/ 2    1.6/ 3    4.2/ 6

10:30  ION  Drew Carey Show         (R)  0.2/ 0    0.1/ 0    0.3/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.1/ 0

        ^   West Coast markets aired this event live, before primetime


                                           #11       #12       #13       #14       #15
 Time  Net  Program                        DET       PHX     TAM-StP  SEA-Tac   MIN-StPl
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 7:00  NBC  NFL Kickoff: WSH @ NYG      10.5/16    5.9/12^  10.5/16    7.2/18^   7.6/14

 8:00  CBS  Big Brother 10               3.2/ 5    2.7/ 4    3.8/ 6    3.0/ 6    4.3/ 8
       FOX  Kitchen Nightmares     (SP)  5.7/ 9    1.1/ 3*   4.0/ 6    4.7/ 8    3.5/ 6
       ABC  Ugly Betty              (R)  5.2/ 8    1.9/ 3    1.8/ 3^^  2.7/ 5    2.5/ 5
        CW  90210                   (R)  2.5/ 4    1.9/ 3    1.2/ 2    1.4/ 2    1.0/ 2
       MNT  Movie: The Contractor        1.1/ 2    2.0/ 3    1.0/ 1    0.6/ 1    2.4/ 4
       ION  Movie: Blade Runner          0.2/ 0    0.5/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.4/ 1

 9:00  CBS  CSI                     (R)  3.6/ 5    3.2/ 6    5.4/ 8    3.7/ 8    6.7/11
       ABC  Grey's Anatomy          (R)  5.5/ 8    1.3/ 2    2.5/ 4^^  2.7/ 5    2.8/ 5

10:00  NBC  Democratic Convention        4.7/ 8    5.6/ 9^   6.0/ 9    5.3/10^   7.2/11
       ABC  Democratic Convention        5.7/ 9    3.3/ 6^   3.5/ 5^^  3.8/ 7^   6.3/10
       CBS  Democratic Convention        1.8/ 3    2.2/ 4^   2.2/ 3    2.7/ 5^   4.4/ 7

10:30  ION  Drew Carey Show         (R)            0.1/ 0    0.4/ 1              0.4/ 1

        *   Due to Republican Convention coverage (1.2/2), this FOX program aired in late night
        ^   West Coast markets aired this event live, before primetime
        ^^  Combined rating of this market's two ABC affilates


                                           #16       #17       #18       #19       #20       #26
 Time  Net  Program                      MIA-FtL   CLE-Akr     DEN    ORL-Dyta  SAC-Stkn     IND
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 7:00  NBC  NFL Kickoff: WSH @ NYG       9.7/13    8.9/15    8.1/15   11.9/17   10.1/18^  15.9/23

 8:00  CBS  Big Brother 10               4.0/ 5    3.4/ 6    1.9/ 3    4.1/ 6    5.1/ 8    6.2/ 9
       FOX  Kitchen Nightmares     (SP)  4.3/ 6    4.8/ 8    2.1/ 3    3.2/ 5    4.6/ 8    3.8/ 5
       ABC  Ugly Betty              (R)  6.3/ 8    3.4/ 6    4.6/ 8    4.5/ 7    3.0/ 5    3.5/ 5
        CW  90210                   (R)  0.5/ 1    1.5/ 2    0.9/ 1    2.9/ 4    2.7/ 5    2.2/ 3
       MNT  Movie: The Contractor        1.8/ 2    2.4/ 4    1.3/ 2    1.5/ 2    1.7/ 3    1.6/ 2
       ION  Movie: Blade Runner          0.5/ 1    0.3/ 0    0.9/ 1    0.3/ 0    0.8/ 1    0.5/ 1

 9:00  CBS  CSI                     (R)  3.5/ 5    5.5/ 9    5.1/ 8    3.8/ 6    5.6/10    6.7/ 9
       ABC  Grey's Anatomy          (R)  3.3/ 4    2.7/ 4    3.0/ 5    3.9/ 6    1.9/ 3    3.8/ 5

10:00  NBC  Democratic Convention        6.9/ 9    4.6/ 7    8.8/13    6.8/10    6.5/11^   9.1/14
       ABC  Democratic Convention        4.2/ 6    2.7/ 4    3.8/ 6    5.4/ 8    2.8/ 5^   3.4/ 5
       CBS  Democratic Convention        2.9/ 4    1.4/ 2    3.3/ 5    2.0/ 3    4.8/ 8^   4.0/ 6

10:30  ION  Drew Carey Show         (R)  0.1/ 0              1.2/ 2    0.2/ 0    0.3/ 1

        ^   West Coast markets aired this event live, before primetime

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Berman:
No, you can't. For some reason that option is not there.

quote:

Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
You could of just edited the title...

MARC: You CAN edit the title of a thread you create. We have had this discussion before and I have even gone back to old threads and edited the title just to show you that it was possible. All you have to do is click to 'edit'(right next to the ' " ' option in the bottom right corner of a post) on the first post in the thread you created and then go to the top and type in whatever subject title you want.

quote:

Originally posted by Obveeus:

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Berman:
No, you can't. For some reason that option is not there.

quote:

Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
You could of just edited the title...

MARC: You CAN edit the title of a thread you create. We have had this discussion before and I have even gone back to old threads and edited the title just to show you that it was possible. All you have to do is click to 'edit'(right next to the ' " ' option in the bottom right corner of a post) on the first post in the thread you created and then go to the top and type in whatever subject title you want.

Marc's permissions as administrator may be different than members, and they may not allow him to edit thread titles.

You can't change the title once it goes out. I'll have to be more careful in the future.

quote:

Originally posted by Obveeus:

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Berman:
No, you can't. For some reason that option is not there.

quote:

Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
You could of just edited the title...

MARC: You CAN edit the title of a thread you create. We have had this discussion before and I have even gone back to old threads and edited the title just to show you that it was possible. All you have to do is click to 'edit'(right next to the ' " ' option in the bottom right corner of a post) on the first post in the thread you created and then go to the top and type in whatever subject title you want.

quote:

Originally posted by Marc Berman:
You can't change the title once it goes out. I'll have to be more careful in the future.

Why is the board set up so that I (or any other peon) can edit the thread titles, but you can't?