Look for Comcast to axe him if/when they takeover NBCU... unless his contract is just too big to eat with no return.
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Originally posted by Garret:
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Originally posted by Marc Berman:
The Jay Leno Show, which dipped to 4.26 million viewers (#4) and a 1.3/ 3 in the demo (#4). Yes, Leno is clearly the biggest new flop of the young TV season.
Leno is *definitely* worried about his ratings. He called the affiliates and gave this interview to defend his ratings.
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It's well known that NBC affiliates are beginning to balk about this fall's "Leno effect" drain on their late news ratings. Stations in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York report losses ranging from 22% to 30% compared to last year.
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Jay told B&C he personally called a "bunch" of the affiliates last week "just to get feedback"
Originally posted by pisher: So will people learn from past fits of overenthusiasm, and wait until the finals to comment on Castle's #'s?
Stay tuned.
Fits of overenthusiasm?
Noone, probably on the entire internet, has done more to raise the profile of this ordinary show than yourself. Hopefully your tireless razzing is done tongue in cheek, because you have otherwise elevated it to a "royal" status it clearly does not deserve, at least in terms of the number of keystrokes devoted to it.
Let dippish keep on typing Bruce. He's already been dealt a blow in a full season renewal. Now all I need is for a few more Tuesday-Wednesday 10pm performers to flop and Castle will be smooth sailing to season three!
Originally posted by TV-aholic: I am sure it took hit from baseball being on. However, it would be no loss for me if the show tanked.
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Originally posted by Julie: Is that a season low for CSI: Miami? It seems like this show has been pulling in lower than usual numbers lately. Can't be a good thing for CBS. Meanwhile, anyone else find it interesting how Heroes and Trauma saw upticks this week? Also noteworthy to point out that Trauma pulled in the same demo that Mercy has so far averaged, with a little over a million less viewers. Perhaps NBC would have been wise to go with Trauma at 8pm Wednesday, axing Mercy?
And those are just sad numbers for Jay Leno. It's a shame, too, because last night's episode was one of the funniest and most enjoyable in awhile. Perhaps baseball hurt it, but it should be doing much better than this.
I don't know - last night's episode was actually very good. When for some reason the show has seemed "messy" to me lately, last night's episode was funny, fresh, and well-done. It's too bad ratings don't show that, though.
And pisher, I agree on BBT - last night's episode could just about be the worst of the season. I didn't laugh once at it last night.
Maybe they're looking at the two hours differently than you are, rightly or wrongly.
Maybe they figure Trauma wouldn't attract a fly if it had to self start, and perhaps when they look around at the overall dormancy of the 8pm wed hour they figure the Mercy numbers aren't that bad.
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Trauma pulls a 2.1 which is higher than Mercy has pulled in the last few weeks under much tougher competition and it is cancelled while Mercy gets a full season renewal? Am I the only one who isn't getting this? Mercy has to be as cheap as Trauma is allegedly expensive, because the ratings don't stack up with the renewal decision.
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I highly doubt that. NBC is in such a disaster mode, they don't have 5 hours of shows to fill that slot. They may however, start to phase him out gradually. Drop him down to nights like Monday and Friday or Wednesday and Friday, etc. Or they could do the creatively wise thing and move him back to 11:35 where he belongs. Conan can then be given the choice of going bye bye or going to 12:35. If Conan says bye bye (which he would), I would then begin a hot pursuit of Jon Stewart or Kimmel to take over Tonight long term. Jimmy Fallon can go back to SNL or perhaps join one of their prime time comedies. He's absolutely awful in late night.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Look for Comcast to axe him if/when they takeover NBCU... unless his contract is just too big to eat with no return.
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Originally posted by Garret:
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Originally posted by Marc Berman:
The Jay Leno Show, which dipped to 4.26 million viewers (#4) and a 1.3/ 3 in the demo (#4). Yes, Leno is clearly the biggest new flop of the young TV season.
Leno is *definitely* worried about his ratings. He called the affiliates and gave this interview to defend his ratings.
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It's well known that NBC affiliates are beginning to balk about this fall's "Leno effect" drain on their late news ratings. Stations in Miami, Los Angeles, and New York report losses ranging from 22% to 30% compared to last year.
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Jay told B&C he personally called a "bunch" of the affiliates last week "just to get feedback"
Originally posted by pisher: So will people learn from past fits of overenthusiasm, and wait until the finals to comment on Castle's #'s?
Stay tuned.
Fits of overenthusiasm?
Noone, probably on the entire internet, has done more to raise the profile of this ordinary show than yourself. Hopefully your tireless razzing is done tongue in cheek, because you have otherwise elevated it to a "royal" status it clearly does not deserve, at least in terms of the number of keystrokes devoted to it.
Let dippish keep on typing Bruce. He's already been dealt a blow in a full season renewal. Now all I need is for a few more Tuesday-Wednesday 10pm performers to flop and Castle will be smooth sailing to season three!
Like even that would stop me. If it goes to a full season four, I might start getting mildly discouraged. But boy, are you counting unhatched chickens like the dickens.
Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Trauma pulls a 2.1 which is higher than Mercy has pulled in the last few weeks under much tougher competition and it is cancelled while Mercy gets a full season renewal? Am I the only one who isn't getting this? Mercy has to be as cheap as Trauma is allegedly expensive, because the ratings don't stack up with the renewal decision.
The 2.1 demo is its highest since the series premiere, but I'm guessing it comes down to cost. As its been said Trauma has an expensive price tag, while I'm guessing Mercy is cheaper. Still, NBC should have given Trauma a bit more time if those numbers hold in the finals.
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I agree that ROE would do better, and is a better fit for the night, but AOP's moderate success on the night might keep it there for the season.
Then, what would CBS do with 3 sitcoms, but one hour available on wednesdays?
Does CBS have any other comedies for mid-season?
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Originally posted by Julie: CBS needs to tris show on Wednesdays, because while it does deserve a full season, I believe Rules of Engagement could still pull better numbers in the Monday 8:30 slot.
Originally posted by Bruce: Maybe they're looking at the two hours differently than you are, rightly or wrongly.
Maybe they figure Trauma wouldn't attract a fly if it had to self start, and perhaps when they look around at the overall dormancy of the 8pm wed hour they figure the Mercy numbers aren't that bad.
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: Trauma pulls a 2.1 which is higher than Mercy has pulled in the last few weeks under much tougher competition and it is cancelled while Mercy gets a full season renewal? Am I the only one who isn't getting this? Mercy has to be as cheap as Trauma is allegedly expensive, because the ratings don't stack up with the renewal decision.
Can't really expect anyone to invest in TRAUMA now knowing it was cancelled.
A few years ago NBC had a neat little SCI FI show called SURFACE...it's ratings were a lot better than most of what they've got on today where they would renew a show likE PARKS & REC with the meagerest of ratings..and yet they cancelled SURFACE...I'm enjoying laughing at them now. That show was a keeper...they didn't even try to find a better slot than Mondays at 8pm.
Every year it amazes me that the ratings WORLD SERIES gets...people really do get worked up over a group of millionaires in pinstrip bating a ball around.
Why can't Rules play musical time slot chairs and move around the schedule? It could replace AOP for a few weeks, HIMYM for a few week, Christine for a few weeks, and Gary for a few weeks. Its clear CBS has something against the show to begin with so why not just use it as a true utility player? I would argue that unless there's a time slot available for 22 eps next season, Rules is a goner. CBS for some reason just doesn't like the show (nor do I).
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: I agree that ROE would do better, and is a better fit for the night, but AOP's moderate success on the night might keep it there for the season.
Then, what would CBS do with 3 sitcoms, but one hour available on wednesdays?
Does CBS have any other comedies for mid-season?
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Originally posted by Julie: CBS needs to tris show on Wednesdays, because while it does deserve a full season, I believe Rules of Engagement could still pull better numbers in the Monday 8:30 slot.
Originally posted by pisher: So will people learn from past fits of overenthusiasm, and wait until the finals to comment on Castle's #'s?
Stay tuned.
Fits of overenthusiasm?
Noone, probably on the entire internet, has done more to raise the profile of this ordinary show than yourself. Hopefully your tireless razzing is done tongue in cheek, because you have otherwise elevated it to a "royal" status it clearly does not deserve, at least in terms of the number of keystrokes devoted to it.
Let dippish keep on typing Bruce. He's already been dealt a blow in a full season renewal. Now all I need is for a few more Tuesday-Wednesday 10pm performers to flop and Castle will be smooth sailing to season three!
Like even that would stop me. If it goes to a full season four, I might start getting mildly discouraged. But boy, are you counting unhatched chickens like the dickens.
I'm not the one who put my eggs in the Fringe basket and am now trying to sell them off like hot cakes!
Originally posted by A.C.: Can't really expect anyone to invest in TRAUMA now knowing it was cancelled.
A few years ago NBC had a neat little SCI FI show called SURFACE...it's ratings were a lot better than most of what they've got on today where they would renew a show likE PARKS & REC with the meagerest of ratings..and yet they cancelled SURFACE...I'm enjoying laughing at them now. That show was a keeper...they didn't even try to find a better slot than Mondays at 8pm.
Every year it amazes me that the ratings WORLD SERIES gets...people really do get worked up over a group of millionaires in pinstrip bating a ball around.
Okay, let's add "Surface" to the list of "Shows that could have saved NBC if they'd only let them."
