I think the SciFi Channle counts it as "Sci-Fi" since they will begin airing reruns soon (fall I believe).

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
Who says Mork & Mindy counts as "sci-fi"? Go to any convention, ask around. Just don't forget to get earplugs so you don't get deaf from all the loud laughter.

Answer: Six (6)

Question: How many more episodes has Rules.... produced comapred to BBT?

Rules may be in its second season, but its episode count still keeps it on the freshman level. It only had 7 episodes last year and with the WGA strike this year, it has only aired 13 episodes this year.

If Rules... does move to the Wednesday at 8pm slot, I expect it to do something in the 7.5 - 8.5 million range. Similar numbers to BBT & HIMYM numbers on Mondays, with the expected annual drop in vieweing numbers all across the Networks.

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Originally posted by Twins12:
I really would love to see what ROE could do on its own. It has been the most nurtured CBS sitcom for two years now. Look at its time slot, it is after Men and before CSI Miami, and it is the only CBS sitcom to not go up against DWTS. Look how the other CBS sitcoms have had to overcome. HIMYM and BBT both having to endure the horrible 8:00 spot and going up against DWTS, even Old Christine going to 8:30 was a test. I want ROE to be tested, and let's see what it can do. I bet it does not make it.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
The sci-fi channel buys syndication rights in bulk. This is why they will have GW soon, but that doesn't make GW sci-fi or fantasy. All you have to do is check for the hard core sci fi fans online and in convention. They'd laugh in your face if you insist either shows has anything to do with the genre.

I would not base anyting on the "Hard Core" SciFi geek fans. Their reasoning is a little off kilter. Believe me, I know a few of them.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
If Rules... does move to the Wednesday at 8pm slot, I expect it to do something in the 7.5 - 8.5 million range.

I think that is a bit generous. I doubt that Rules of Engagement will perform any better than Back to You.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
I would not base anyting on the "Hard Core" SciFi geek fans. Their reasoning is a little off kilter.

While I agree with that, I still think that it is a stretch to call Mork&Mindy 'sci-fi'. The mere fact that the character is from another planet doesn't suddenly qualify the show as 'sci-fi' enough to merit putting it on a channel devoted to the subject, IMO.


Proof that sci-fi geeks are all the same?


Sci-fi geeks...hard to take people seriously when they have names like Yoda and Bobo.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
I would not base anyting on the "Hard Core" SciFi geek fans. Their reasoning is a little off kilter.

While I agree with that, I still think that it is a stretch to call Mork&Mindy 'sci-fi'. The mere fact that the character is from another planet doesn't suddenly qualify the show as 'sci-fi' enough to merit putting it on a channel devoted to the subject, IMO.

M&M had other Sci-Fi elements other than Mork's origin; for example, when Mork had their son, he was fully grown and was going to age backwards. Now that's hard-core!

Sci-Fi (the genre, not the network) is a wide umbrella. Quantum Leap was Sci-Fi, so was 3rd Rock from the Sun. Just because the hard core geeks don't care because there aren't laser fights every ep doesn't make it not true.

Heck: "Dude, Where's My Car?" ended up being Sci-Fi.

So yes, GW is Sci-Fi. And I'm sure the hard core geeks would have no issue with JLH coming to one of their conventions.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

Proof that sci-fi geeks are all the same?


Sci-fi geeks...hard to take people seriously when they have names like Yoda and Bobo.

I can't believe I forgot to mention this:

How seriously can we take a guy named Annie?

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Moonlight will be renewed and should be.
Fact is the show went to Paley Event and not one show at the paley event is cancelled not even the low rated Friday night Lights. Moonlight is a very good vampire show and its buzz is growing over the net like wildfire.

Yeah, but didn't you hear? Wildfire got canceled.

And Moonlight would be lucky to get half its audience if it were on The Family Channel.

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Originally posted by ChrTh:
Sci-Fi (the genre, not the network) is a wide umbrella. Quantum Leap was Sci-Fi, so was 3rd Rock from the Sun. Just because the hard core geeks don't care because there aren't laser fights every ep doesn't make it not true.

Sure, and by that logic all it takes is for the wrestling show to have a character with 'mind control powers' and wrestling qualifies as 'sci-fi'.

The point remains that the channel is the Science Fiction channel, and as such, it really shouldn't be having to stretch the definition to include aliens that drink through their finger just to find enough 'sci-fi' programming to fill all of the channels programming hours.

I love it that people are talking about "SciFi" like it's a defined genre.

SCIENCE FICTION is a defined genre, albeit an extremely flexible and diversified one.

SciFi is just a catch-all term for "something freaky happens."

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Originally posted by pisher:
I love it that people are talking about "SciFi" like it's a defined genre.

SCIENCE FICTION is a defined genre, albeit an extremely flexible and diversified one.

SciFi is just a catch-all term for "something freaky happens."

Uh, no.

sci-fi Pronunciation[sahy-fahy]
–adjective 1. of or pertaining to science fiction: a writer of sci-fi books.
–noun 2. science fiction.

[Origin: 1950–55; by shortening]

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by ChrTh:
Sci-Fi (the genre, not the network) is a wide umbrella. Quantum Leap was Sci-Fi, so was 3rd Rock from the Sun. Just because the hard core geeks don't care because there aren't laser fights every ep doesn't make it not true.

Sure, and by that logic all it takes is for the wrestling show to have a character with 'mind control powers' and wrestling qualifies as 'sci-fi'.

The point remains that the channel is the Science Fiction channel, and as such, it really shouldn't be having to stretch the definition to include aliens that drink through their finger just to find enough 'sci-fi' programming to fill all of the channels programming hours.

Well, the Sci-Fi channel DOES air wrestling. And "reality" ghost hunting shows. Mork and Mindy would actually be a step up.

Acurate or not, for most people, Sci-fi is lumped together with fantasy and supernatural. I'm sure there are libraries with Harry Potter shelved in the "Sci-Fi" section.

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Uh, no.

sci-fi Pronunciation[sahy-fahy]
–adjective 1. of or pertaining to science fiction: a writer of sci-fi books.
–noun 2. science fiction.

Yeah, I'm so impressed by an unnamed (and obviously online) dictionary citation of a slang term.

I'm an oldtime SF buff. We loathe despise and abominate the term 'scifi', always have, always will. Because it doesn't mean anything. Because it takes the carefully thought out ideas of a great literary genre, and turns them into pop cultural fodder for braindead studio execs.

Science Fiction is for people who want to think.

SciFi is for people who want to see stuff blow up, or get grossed out.

The latter is more popular, to be sure--also a lot more ephemeral.

I see absolutely no reason, btw, why the self-named SciFi Channel (which has not ever felt like it had to confine itself to science fiction) shouldn't air Mork and Mindy. Which isn't really SciFi, btw--it's SitCom.

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Originally posted by Holly:
Acurate or not, for most people, Sci-fi is lumped together with fantasy and supernatural. I'm sure there are libraries with Harry Potter shelved in the "Sci-Fi" section.

True enough, but I doubt you will find any library or video store that puts Mork&Mindy in the sci-fi area.