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That's true, but I think the massive holes in ABC's schedule will override that. They have much more important things to worry about. I'm sure they are just happy to have something in the post-Dance slot that isn't a giant gaping wound.
Just a medium-sized sucking wound.
Holes get plugged. ABC keeps ordering new pilots. Castle's only hope is that the crappy development process that spawned it spawns an even worse crop of potential replacements.
CSI never got the credit it deserved. The same goes now with NCIS.
What you failed to include is the fact that Friends aired a repeat at 8:30 and basically held onto the entire audience from 8:00 and bested the rest of NBC's lineup (with the exception of ER). CSI could not pull that off.
What? That night CSI was seen by 10 million more viewers than Friends and had more young viewers as well. Wasn't Friends the supposed phenomenon? Oh yeah, i forgot the media thinks Glee ans GG are pop phenomens as well. Shame on me
Originally posted by TV-aholic: This had to be one of the better episodes of Survivor I have ever seen. Even if Russell does not win, he IS the best player of the game ever.
I have to agree with this. I hated this guy at the beginning of the season but I'm rooting for him now. Not sure how long his luck can last but hopefully he finds the idol next week (not like he needs a clue) or wins immunity.
Rookie performers making midseason decisions difficult By RICK KISSELL
As the November sweep nears its conclusion, webheads have turned their attention to midseason sked tweaks.
These decisions could be more difficult this year due to a high number of decent rookie performers and a glut of midseason shows waiting on the bench. This could be a good thing for viewers and the networks’ bottom-line averages, as it likely means fewer repeats the rest of the way.
The last couple of weeks saw a flurry of moves as the nets map out the first few months of 2010.
Among the changes, ABC axed Wednesday laffer “Hank” and chose not to order any more segs of struggling drama “Eastwick” while picking up five more episodes of Tuesday drama “The Forgotten.” Fox canceled Friday drama “Dollhouse,” and CBS ordered five more episodes of rookie comedy “Accidentally on Purpose”
Here’s a look at what could be in the works at midseason:
ABC
“Ugly Betty,” which is floundering on Fridays, would be a good choice for Wednesday at 10, replacing the struggling “Eastwick” and fitting in well behind the net’s comedy block.
“Lost” could shift to Tuesdays for its final season, perhaps leading into or out of “V,” which could be the net’s best shot at holding an aud opposite “American Idol,” which returns in January. ABC would be foolish, meanwhile, if it doesn’t devote more than one hour of air a week to “Lost,” perhaps making room for a discussion show after each episode.
Quirky drama “Happy Town” seems like a good fit on Sunday with “Desperate Housewives,” giving “Brothers & Sisters” a breather, while young-lawyers drama “The Deep End” could serve a similar role on Thursdays, behind “Grey’s Anatomy” and spelling “Private Practice.”
On the comedy front, new Alyssa Milano laffer “Romantically Challenged” could slide into “Hank’s” 8 p.m. slot on Wednesday, although it would face Fox’s “American Idol.” But the net does have to program something against the behemoth.
CBS
Vet comedy “Rules of Engagement” could slide into the Monday slot occupied by “Accidentally on Purpose,” while new hospital series “Miami Trauma” could go Sundays at 9 behind the adrenaline rush that is “Amazing Race.” “Flashpoint” would seem like a good c ap to Friday, taking over for the declining “Numbers.”
There’s not an obvious spot for reality newbie “Undercover Boss,” which generated good buzz at the net’s upfront last May, but it could slide in to “Survivor’s” Thursday timeslot for a few weeks.
NBC
Despite low ratings, don’t look for the net to abandon its Jay Leno experiment anytime this season.
Its best hope for success is dramedy “Parenthood,” which would make sense Sunday at 8, although limited-run reality show “The Marriage Ref” could also go there. Fridays are also a possibility for “Parenthood,” as the net may put it in the slot where another family hour, “Providence,” worked a decade ago.
“Chuck” likely will return to its old Monday 8 p.m. slot, leading into “Heroes,” and Wednesday could see “Mercy” stay put, as the net probably isn’t keen on putting in something new opposite “American Idol.”
Net has quietly made strides with its Thursday comedy block, where “Community” has gained traction at 8 p.m. and “The Office” is performing well at 9. Look for midseason comedy “100 Questions” to get a March tryout in the 8:30 p.m. “Parks & Rec” slot.
Fox
There aren’t many question marks here, especially with “American Idol” and “24” already locked in for their annual returns in January.
Priority will be giving dramas a shot Tuesday and Wednesday at 9. That rotation will include giving current hit “Glee” more exposure, while also shining the light on the new “Human Target” and “Past Life.”
Lightly watched Friday remains a tough nut to crack, with reality shows including perhaps the recently announced “Our Little Genius” the best bet to take over for the net’s anemic lineup of comedies and “Dollhouse.”
I'm going to wade into the whole Russell, "Survivor" issue...
Personally, I didn't like Russell in the beginning and I still don't like him. Comparing him to Rupert (?) or Richard Hatch or even long forgotten winner Brian Heidik is a disservice. For me, Russell is only a mediocre player, at best.
Russell is good at pointing out perceived flaws in other people, but other than that, what exactly has he contributed to the game? His old tribe Foa Foa lost all but one immunity challenge prior to the merge. He was not able to keep his Foa Foa ally Ben around and had to abort plans to kick off Liz when he wanted to. It's obvious that Foa Foa didn't depend on Russell for anything, or if they did, it was never mentioned by his fellow players.
Several of his moves were either stupid or completely unnecessary. Why lie about being from New Orleans? On the first episode, no less. Does he think sympathy is going to get him $1 million from the jury? (Not now, since most of his original Foa Foa tribe members left before the jury selection began.) Why play an immunity idol when it wasn't necessary and he didn't get a single vote cast against him? He went to what seemed like every player in the game and let them know that he had the immunity idol and would give it to that person when the time came. Does he not think that people would talk? Russell practically admitted as such when he handed the idol to Jeff and said that "everyone knows I have it anyway". Real smooth game play there.
Now he really has a target on his back, one that only gets bigger each week as more and more people leave the game. Russell has backed himself into a corner where his only salvation is winning an immunity challenge or finding an immunity idol. Even the clueless players on the original Foa Foa should realize the threat posed by Russell, especially since he has now used two idols to save himself.
That is not the work of a good player. A good player wouldn't need to scurry about looking for an immunity idol to survive Tribal Council. How often was Richard Hatch in serious danger of going home? If I remember correctly, just once, when his fellow players attempted to vote him off on his birthday. The rest of the time, he didn't even bother to pack his belongings to go to Tribal Council because he knew who was going home - because he had decided who it would be. The level of control of the game has not been duplicated and to suggest that Russell deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as Richard or other noteworthy players is simply laughable. Russell isn't fit to carry Richard Hatch's jock strap.
Now that we have all exorcised that image from our brains, I am glad to see "Survivor", after a sluggish start this fall, bounce back to the levels of the Gabon season from Fall 2008.
As far as the post-Super Bowl slot, "Survivor" is a safe choice. It has been around for 19 seasons over nearly a decade and most viewers are familiar with the concept. By airing the season opener of "Survivor 20" after the Super Bowl, CBS will likely get better ratings than any of the other options being put forth (i.e. "The Mentalist", "NCIS: LA", etc.).
“Ugly Betty,” which is floundering on Fridays, would be a good choice for Wednesday at 10, replacing the struggling “Eastwick” and fitting in well behind the net’s comedy block.
“Lost” could shift to Tuesdays for its final season, perhaps leading into or out of “V,” which could be the net’s best shot at holding an aud opposite “American Idol,” which returns in January. ABC would be foolish, meanwhile, if it doesn’t devote more than one hour of air a week to “Lost,” perhaps making room for a discussion show after each episode.
Quirky drama “Happy Town” seems like a good fit on Sunday with “Desperate Housewives,” giving “Brothers & Sisters” a breather, while young-lawyers drama “The Deep End” could serve a similar role on Thursdays, behind “Grey’s Anatomy” and spelling “Private Practice.”
On the comedy front, new Alyssa Milano laffer “Romantically Challenged” could slide into “Hank’s” 8 p.m. slot on Wednesday, although it would face Fox’s “American Idol.” But the net does have to program something against the behemoth.
How about Castle? Since it's stabilized and all, and can take its devoted permanent audience with it anywhere, just like Bones.
If you want a new show to succeed, doesn't it make sense to put it in a supportive timeslot? Only way to do that is to take some other show out of a supportive timeslot, in order to make room.
CSI never got the credit it deserved. The same goes now with NCIS.
What you failed to include is the fact that Friends aired a repeat at 8:30 and basically held onto the entire audience from 8:00 and bested the rest of NBC's lineup (with the exception of ER). CSI could not pull that off.
What? That night CSI was seen by 10 million more viewers than Friends and had more young viewers as well. Wasn't Friends the supposed phenomenon? Oh yeah, i forgot the media thinks Glee ans GG are pop phenomens as well. Shame on me
The point of my post is not what I missed. Because I understood your post entirely. CSI did very well in both viewers and demo.
The point of my most was to voice what I felt you missed, which was (again) the fact that Friends was a repeat after its original telecast and held on to nearly all of its viewers, whereas I don't think if CSI repeated an episode after an original installment that it would do the same thing....even though it bested Friends in both demo and viewers.
Originally posted by scottm: I think fringe is different proposition to dollhouse- and Fringe jumped 29% this week too. If it was at 2.5 in the demo i think Fox may be satisfied with that.Its facing very heavy competition too.
I don't think FOX would be satisfied with 2.5, but I also think they'd accept less--in the short-term. In this timeslot. But they can't accept this long-term.
At 2.5 on Thursdays for FOX is acceptable. Bones has been in that range most of the season and no one is calling for it to be canceled. And before you go with the lower HUT at 8pm, Bones as less competition. NBC at 8pm is very weak & FF is looking like a crash & burn series, trending downward as the season progresses.
9pm Still has 3 Powerhouse series on the other 3 Networks.
I think for an expensive program like Fringe, a 2.5 isn't all that acceptable even against Greys and CSI. Putting it against those shows was the stupid move to begin with. Reality would be counter programming and probably outrate it even demo-wise, not to mention, be cheaper.
Yes, Fringe is an expensive program--a one hour scripted drama. Bit pricier than Castle, I'm sure--but also attracting more desirable viewers. Castle is low-rent (heh). Skews older than Leno. And it's expensive too, much as its fans try to deny that.
Putting Fringe in that timeslot was like kicking the tires, which are seriously deflated, but not yet punctured--the indicators are worrying, but not yet fatal, because of the severity of the competition.
The real problem is not the timeslot (which they could change at any time) but scripts, a problem which has gotten more severe since the uneven but entertaining first season. They just don't know where to go with it, or how to pull the various character threads together. There isn't a strong vision there, and the further they go, the bigger a problem there will be. Everybody's scared to make the big decisions, and the result is a show that usually feels very perfunctory in the way it deals with events that are anything but.
The right choice (as with Castle) is to pull the plug. Fringe probably can't get back where it was--Castle could never hope to get there at all, ever. But having spent some time working with a show, networks tend to hesitate about making that choice. FOX has spent more time and money on Castle--the Concorde Fallacy dictates they'll probably spend more.
Castle is more of an Edsel than a Concorde. Different fallacy.
Pisher by name and pisher by nature. I think fringe is a little ham strung by its complicated on-going storyline and the desire (or need?) to tell individual stories.
Ratings wise I think if it settles down they will bring it back for a 3rd season, even if it doesn't rise above a hopeful 2.5.
Hard to say as that is contingent on so many other things like what else they have in their arsenal.
Pisher you do make me laugh with your need to stir other people whilst trying to be the smartest poster on the forum.If fringe comes back and has some success will you change your tune or just harp on about its quality?
Unfortunately i realise i am playing into your hands by even acknowledging your desperate need to piss people off, but if thats your main desire (and it seems to be) its hard to take what you say seriously.
"Survivor" touts a $1 million grand prize and the winner of a season of "American Idol" winner can potential rake in millions, yet it's ABC's underdog reality show "Shark Tank" that arguably offers the most lucrative prizes for a typical contestant.
Below is list of entrepreneurs' products pitched during the first eight televised episodes of the Mark Burnett series and how they are faring with (and in some cases, without) the sharks' help.
Here's the report:
Life Belt (The Lifebelt Safety System) Outcome: The entrepreneur, who refused a million dollar offer from the Sharks, just signed a 1.7 Million dollar deal with one large automotive dealership. With orders from national retailers (e.g. AutoZone and Hendrick Automotive) Rob is projected to make 30 million dollars by March 2010.
Mr. Tod's Pie Factory (Sweet Potato and Chocolate Pecan Pies) Outcome: Mr. Tod's sales have tripled and he is currently opening a new retail location. Mr. Tod appeared on QVC and sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of his signature pies.
A Perfect Pear (A Jar of Tapenade) Outcome: Susan's retail sales have increased by 1,000% and she has been asked to sell her product on QVC.
Stress Free Kids (A Bestselling Children’s Book) Outcome: Lori's book, "The Angry Octopus" became one of Amazon's top selling books and is now available in Borders bookstores nationwide.
Coverplay (Play Yard Liner) Outcome: Amy and Allison are in final negotiations with the Marriott hotel chain, who is interested in carrying their Coverplay product in all their hotels worldwide.
Pork Barrel BBQ (Award Winning BBQ Sauce and Dry Rub) Outcome: Before appearing on "Shark Tank," Brett and Heath had their BBQ products in only three specialty stores, now they’re are in 300 supermarkets on east coast and will soon be available on the shelves of Costco. In addition to their retail success, Brett and Heath have also broken ground on their first Pork Barrel BBQ restaurant.
Treasure Chest Pets (Stuffed Animal with Hidden Compartments) Outcome: Lisa recently closed a deal to sell her products online at "Bed, Bath and Beyond", and in "Buy Buy Baby" retail stores.
Voyage Air Guitars (A Guitar That Folds in Half) Outcome: After turning down a half million dollar offer from the Sharks, Jeff Cohen set out to make his unique folding guitar a household name. Now Jeff’s sales have doubled and he will have his guitar featured in 18 million catalogs e.g. Hammacher Schlemmer. Voyage Air Guitars are also in the hands of celebrity musicians like Brad Paisley and Alan Jackson.
ETA: Oh wait! Just remembered New Moon is premiering Thursday and there's a lot of crossover audience so there might not be as big a bump! We'll see.
Actually, the premiere is Friday, the Thursday night showings are all midnight showings. My guess is that TVD might take a hit but fans might also stay home and watch Vampire Diaries at 8/7 then go to see New Moon at midnight...or just go to the Friday night showing.
AMAZING! I can't believe the one contestant could make 30 million dollars by March!
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That is amazing. ABC really needs to promote the fact that Shark Tank is actually helping businesses and achieving results. I think that will draw in more viewers.
CSI is still strong - getting a 4 in the demo is nothing to cry over... but last year at this time GA and CSI were jockeying for the demo lead week in and week out, with CSI winning often. And after everyone screaming of the demise of GA - to see it come out this year in fighting shape both creatively and in the ratings is a big victory for ABC.
Gotta agree with you here. Last year all the naysayers were writing this show's epitaph. Nice to see it prove them wrong and not only win however win by a sizeable margin--every week in the coveted A 18-49 demos. Plus so fare the show this year is having a stellar season. VEry reinvigorated this year with pretty good plotting and pace. Keep up the good work, Grays. I for one am loving this season.
Sigh... I'm sad. I was hoping that Community and Parks and Recreations would do better. They had an uptick last week but than lost it. Arg! They are doing really well quality wise, imo of course. Decent numbers for TO and 30 Rock.
Good for Bones, a nice uptick from last week. I wonder how well Fringe has to do to be considered a "okay" performance.
Wow at Grey's Anatomy. A 5.6 in the demo? Ouch for FlashForward... only a 2.6 in the demo with 8 million for a serial drama? Any other serialized drama would do a 3 in the demo. Private Practice is not a winner but almost a 4 in the demo is great.
So... Survivor is doing the best out of the programs on CBS on Thursdays. Never would have guessed it.
