Deal or No Deal has finally reached over-saturation - a 2 in the demo?! What's up with Wednesdays at 8 - do people just skip the timeslot entirely?
I think it had more to do with the game show audience being fragmented (with The Price is Right entering the timeslot). Actually, given that DoND is regularly up against the two biggest shows on TV (Dancing with the Stars and AI), NBC is probably happy with the lower ratings.
Interesting results for Law & Order: Mothership. I wonder if Jesse Martin's leaving will permanently affect the ratings?
And Ryan Seacrest's comments about PaulaGate on AI last night were woefully inadequate. "The rumors are wrong." Which rumors are those, Ryan -- that Paula is drunk/stoned/reading from a script? Or that the show is fixed?
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What were people expecting from Boston Legal against CSI NY and Law and Order. 10 Million viewers? 15? 20? It did much better than Cashmere Mafia did. Does better after DWTS recap show. Going to get a lot of Emmys. So what in that scenario leads to cancellation?
The problem with DOND On Wednesday was having TPIR in the same time slot. They basically split 15 million game show viewers between the two of them. There are only so many game show viewers, so you cannot have the two of them in the same time slot.
So, you can assume I don't have a life, that's fine, but in my humble opinion, television, movies and entertainment in general are a part of life, at least mine.
Welcome and its good to see a TV fan who takes pride in his watching. Did you stumble on to this site by accident?
Thanks for the welcome I'm a her. lol
No, it wasn't by accident. I was linked to here on TWOP, a site for tv discussion.
So, you can assume I don't have a life, that's fine, but in my humble opinion, television, movies and entertainment in general are a part of life, at least mine.
Welcome and its good to see a TV fan who takes pride in his watching. Did you stumble on to this site by accident?
Thanks for the welcome I'm a her. lol
No, it wasn't by accident. I was linked to here on TWOP, a site for tv discussion.
I agree about the Idol halo effect. Even if its only people tuning in a couple minutes early its enough to spike the 8:30 show's ratings compared to 8:00 regardless if its B2U or TD. Too bad theres no 15 minute breakdown
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Originally posted by spotupj: Not sure I agree with the "Still Dominant" label for CSI:NY... beating L&O by 0.1 in the demo when it had a more compatible and one point larger lead-in is hardly domination.
I didn't expect much out of Boston Legal and I'm not sure why everyone else did. These special airings diminish EVERYTHING, even established shows like when CSI:Miami was on Tuesday, and this was actually a tick ahead of the February without-Dancing numbers when it had less competition. I doubt this did much to sway renewal in either direction.
On the Fox comedy front, the 8:30 show is always going to build, not just because of HUT but because of the Idol halo effect causing pre-tune. TD was building at 8:30 in the fall, got moved to 8, and now appears inferior. In reality, the two shows are probably of about equal strength - which is to say not much.
The time has now come for CBS to use Wednesday's at 8:00 for another hour of sitcoms. I mean look at the two FOX sitcoms at 8:00 on Wednesday vs. CBS two 8:00 sitcoms on Monday, and the Monday two sitcoms face much more competition :
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Til Death (Fox) – 8 p.m. Viewers: 5.53 million (#4), A18-49: 2.0/ 7 (#1t)
Back to You (Fox) – 8:30 p.m. Viewers: 6.97 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#1)
The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #4, 8.16 million; A18-49: #2t, 3.0/ 9)
How I Met Your Mother (Viewers: #4, 8.87 million; A18-49: #2, 3.8/10)
If CBS puts sitcoms on in this weak hour they blow the competition away. It is time for CBS to make the move.
CBS is suffering from having a lot of aging shows. Next year will be big for CBS. They need to bring in multiple new shows as a few of their successful shows have 2 seaons left, 3 max. Use what numbers they have left to launch the next slate of hits.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I was not sure how to label CSI: NY. And I do think it is in trouble next season. ABC has a real opportunity here.
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Originally posted by spotupj: Not sure I agree with the "Still Dominant" label for CSI:NY... beating L&O by 0.1 in the demo when it had a more compatible and one point larger lead-in is hardly domination.
I didn't expect much out of Boston Legal and I'm not sure why everyone else did. These special airings diminish EVERYTHING, even established shows like when CSI:Miami was on Tuesday, and this was actually a tick ahead of the February without-Dancing numbers when it had less competition. I doubt this did much to sway renewal in either direction.
On the Fox comedy front, the 8:30 show is always going to build, not just because of HUT but because of the Idol halo effect causing pre-tune. TD was building at 8:30 in the fall, got moved to 8, and now appears inferior. In reality, the two shows are probably of about equal strength - which is to say not much.
Originally posted by Twins12: The time has now come for CBS to use Wednesday's at 8:00 for another hour of sitcoms. I mean look at the two FOX sitcoms at 8:00 on Wednesday vs. CBS two 8:00 sitcoms on Monday, and the Monday two sitcoms face much more competition :
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Til Death (Fox) – 8 p.m. Viewers: 5.53 million (#4), A18-49: 2.0/ 7 (#1t)
Back to You (Fox) – 8:30 p.m. Viewers: 6.97 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#1)
The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #4, 8.16 million; A18-49: #2t, 3.0/ 9)
How I Met Your Mother (Viewers: #4, 8.87 million; A18-49: #2, 3.8/10)
If CBS puts sitcoms on in this weak hour they blow the competition away. It is time for CBS to make the move.
I agrre maybre they could do it like this.
Wedsdays 8:00pm Old Christine 8:30pm The Rules to Engagment
Originally posted by Twins12: The time has now come for CBS to use Wednesday's at 8:00 for another hour of sitcoms. I mean look at the two FOX sitcoms at 8:00 on Wednesday vs. CBS two 8:00 sitcoms on Monday, and the Monday two sitcoms face much more competition :
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Til Death (Fox) – 8 p.m. Viewers: 5.53 million (#4), A18-49: 2.0/ 7 (#1t)
Back to You (Fox) – 8:30 p.m. Viewers: 6.97 million (#3), A18-49: 2.5/ 7 (#1)
The Big Bang Theory (Viewers: #4, 8.16 million; A18-49: #2t, 3.0/ 9)
How I Met Your Mother (Viewers: #4, 8.87 million; A18-49: #2, 3.8/10)
If CBS puts sitcoms on in this weak hour they blow the competition away. It is time for CBS to make the move.
I agrre maybre they could do it like this.
Wedsdays 8:00pm Old Christine 8:30pm The Rules to Engagment
I think they would play well of each other.
I don't know if those two are strong enough to survive without the Two and Half Men lead in. I think they will probably have to move HIMYM to Wednesday at 8:00 to anchor that night, and leave BBT to anchor the Monday 8:00 time slot with new sitcoms or Old Christine/Rules in the 8:30 slot.
Originally posted by total eclipse: Abysmal numbers for BL, which means neither BL nor WMC should live to see another season. WMC tanks in its first season with terrible demos, and BL has been around for a few years, but fails to make any kind of effect or build its own stable audience. I say off with their heads, renew Eli Stone. At least it has growing potential.
All things considered, BL did well in it's move. In terms of viewers it grew from it's leadin and was almost 2 million viewers higher than Men In Trees. It's demo was in the low end of its normal range when it didn't have DWTS results leadin. It definitely has the edge over WMC but then again, WMC should be airing on Fridays or Saturdays not on Tuesday nights.
The only down side to this of couse, is that next week BL is preempted and therefore any momentum in could gain will be lost. Very poor scheduling by ABC.
Thoughts: First, the people who think Boston Legal should automatically keep its audience in the move to Wednesday are delusional. It did do miles better than Men in Trees though. With about 2 new dramas being the max ABC will have ready next fall, BL will return. Second, CSI:NY proved last night why it does not deserve a post-Criminal Minds timeslot. It lost viewers despite less competition. Ridiculous. Law and Order in season 99 is younger skewing. Third, wish results were higher for Til Death but it did finish near the top in the overall weak 8pm hour. Similar situation to Moonlight actually, but it has a much better shot at returning because Fox loves the star power and needs regular comedies.
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