While I blame the strike for a lot of CSI's problems, the less than stellar procedurals (the other two CSIs, WAT, Cold Case, Shark) have really been hit. Every network has its problems. For CBS, its going to be either a) reform the procedural so more of the former fans return or b) finding a hit in another category of drama or comedy or reality (which has really sunk for them).
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I also think that the glut of crime dramas as finally taken its toll.
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Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: I think there was a big rush to get everything back on the air. Let's just hope the quality of the shows are better next fall.
Yeah but this may backfire, some might be so disappointed with the post-strikes episodes that come in fall they won't return. I'm really curious about CSI's numbers, especially the half hour breakdown.
Ratings Breakdown: CBS won this second Thursday in the overnights, with a 21 percent advantage over second-place ABC. But ABC is the network to beat among adults 18-49 once the fast affiliate results are posted at PIFeedback.com. Tied for third overall in the metered markets were NBC and Fox. And the CW, of course, was fifth.
CBS’ Survivor: Micronesia won the 8 p.m. hour in the overnights, with a 7.2 rating/12 share. Comparably, that was down by 10 percent from Survivor: Fiji on the year-ago evening (8.0/13 on May 3, 2007). If anyone has any thoughts on Survivor last night, please share them with me at PIFeedback.com or via email at mberman@mediaweek.com. I missed it last night because I was at ION Television’s upfront presentation (see TV Tidbits below for more on ION).
Second in the overnights from 8-9 p.m. was ABC’s Ugly Betty (6.0/10), followed by Fox’s Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? (5.2/ 9), NBC sitcoms My Name is Earl (4.4/ 7) and ABC-bound Scrubs (4.0/ 7), and the CW’s Smallville (2.9/ 5). What concerns me about Ugly Betty was a loss of 25 percent in the overnights from the year-ago telecast (8.0/13 on May 3, 2007).
CBS’ veteran CSI won the 9 p.m. hour, with an 11.3/18 in the overnights. And Grey’s Anatomy on ABC, which was second with a 10.2/16, will win the hour among adults 18-49 once the fast affiliate results are released. Both dramas remain down year-to-year, but a loss of 26 percent for Grey’s Anatomy (10.2/16 vs. 13.8/21 on May 3, 2007) is more severe than 11 percent for CSI (11.3/18 vs. 12.7/19). Are we all tiring of the romantic shtick at Seattle Grace Hospital?
Also airing from 9-10 p.m. were NBC sitcoms The Office (4.8/ 8) and 30 Rock (3.9/ 6), Fox’s Don’t Forget the Lyrics (4.4/ 7), and Supernatural on the CW (2.1/ 3). Since I also missed my new favorite The Office last night, tell me…how was it?
Top-rated overnight honors at 10 p.m. fell in CBS’ corner with Without a Trace at a 9.6/16 -- 17 percent below the second half of lead-in CSI (11.6/18). ABC’s relocated Lost was second, with a 6.8/11. But Lost will, of course, win the hour among adults 18-49. So, tell me…what do you think happened to Claire? Third in the hour was NBC’s veteran ER at a 5.7/10.
Robert, just curious, you mention that Supernatural's return has been very bad and I am wondering what you mean by this? Also, the Household hut ratings for SN rose from last week, so that is good. But as always, it will be interesting to see how the ratings fall.
Originally posted by wenart25: Robert, just curious, you mention that Supernatural's return has been very bad and I am wondering what you mean by this? Also, the Household hut ratings for SN rose from last week, so that is good. But as always, it will be interesting to see how the ratings fall.
Peace!!
Did you like last thursday's episode? I though as many that was terrible. But 2.1 in overnights for yesterday's episode is good
Originally posted by robert: Triple ouch for ABC, those are very bad numbers for their Thursday lineup
Year to year losses are concerning. I believe Betty however rose week to week. NBC is the one that should really be worried. Those numbers for the Office and Earl are really low compared to their fall runs against original competition. I wonder how much of an effect online and DVR are having compared to fall. I assume its similar but did more people convert to DVRs over the strike period (like they did last summer) and now that new stuff is back we're really seeing the effect?
Originally posted by wenart25: Robert, just curious, you mention that Supernatural's return has been very bad and I am wondering what you mean by this? Also, the Household hut ratings for SN rose from last week, so that is good. But as always, it will be interesting to see how the ratings fall.
Peace!!
Did you like last thursday's episode? I though as many that was terrible. But 2.1 in overnights for yesterday's episode is good
Oh, ok...that is what you meant. I thought last nights episode was ok, but nothing near the bulk of the first half of this seasons were. The writing was not as tight as it could be and that is something I thought would still be there when the show returned. However, I think, as others do that they were rushed to get their shows back on the air. So hence, weaker writing. There is something that is missing from the show and I cannot figure out what it is. I mean, I am not all that excited to see the new episodes and that is not like me at all.
And Mswood, sorry, I misinterpreted your post. It was late at night and I was trying to get a paper done.
For myself the one thing I am missing is the build up. I loved the tone of last nights episode and the dialogue and interactions of the brothers. But with us losing 6 episodes, we are not see the build up that is typical for this show before we get to the final three episodes (which tend to heavily hit the main arc of the season).
And so we are having to be told stuff instead of seeing stuff and that is usually harder to sell.
Originally posted by robert: Triple ouch for ABC, those are very bad numbers for their Thursday lineup
Year to year losses are concerning. I believe Betty however rose week to week. NBC is the one that should really be worried. Those numbers for the Office and Earl are really low compared to their fall runs against original competition. I wonder how much of an effect online and DVR are having compared to fall. I assume its similar but did more people convert to DVRs over the strike period (like they did last summer) and now that new stuff is back we're really seeing the effect?
Actually, week-to-week, NBC is most improved, followed by CBS which was also up a bit. I expected the entire ABC lineup to fall a bit, as it's thier second week back, and also FOX without it's hyped 2-hour 5th grader. The only real surprise was Survivor being down so much.
Survivor - .7 CSI + .8 Without A Trace + .3 CBS + .1
