I have to say congrats to Boston Legal last night - viewers and demo are remaining stable, if not going up week-to-week. These are better ratings than all 3 Wednesday shows are getting, and yet this is the one ending. Makes no sense to me at all - ABC should think about continuing this show, at least until the end of the season, because they need the ratings right now.
Looks like BBT has stabled about in the 9-9.5 million range. It's been there all season. And How I met Your Mother built on viewers for the first time, but I'm guessing that was because last night's episode was the wedding episode? And Worst Week is actually doing okay in the ratings. Still not spectacular, though - it probably should be doing at least 11 million. But, I'm sure CBS is thrilled with those numbers - they just adore that show! If they put Rules of Engagement there, ratings would be way better.
Chuck and Heroes were up last night. Looks like Chuck is slowly building some viewers back. And My Own Worst Enemy is a bomb - I wonder if NBC will even keep it for November sweeps, unoes they do some schedule switching, and Deal ends up on Mondays.
Why FOX renewed SCC is beyond me - they're completely out of their minds. They should have cancelled it, not continued it.
Originally posted by Obveeus: In general terms, newer shows tend to play better in the 10am data (mostly big cities) while longer running shows tend to look better once the noon data comes out to add in more/smaller markets. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that longer running shows perform comparatively better when the more rural markets are included. I doubt that CW is attempting to 'protest' OTH doing better than GG in the noon data. However, since GG did better in the 10am data, CW probably found the magnatude of the OTH gain later to be out of proportion from prior weeks' trends. Since they make their money and program their network based upon this data, they have a right to know if GG is too low, OTH is too high, or if both numbers are accurate and GG is really suddenly out of favor with the 'rural' folks.
Obveeus - thanks for the insight into the 10am/noon data. I agree The CW has a right to know, but you have to admit that if Gossip Girl was on the higher end, they never would have questioned it. Ostroff's favoritism is so transparent (see Veronica Mars).
Well, when someone has nothing but rhetoric and wants the government to do everything and calls for a redistribution of the wealth, that says something.
What does it say when Bush nationalizes failing banks?
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Granted, a Democrat controlled Congress will be too fractured, and Republicans should have enough votes in the Senate to block anything crazy that Democrats will try,
You wanna bet?
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but when a guy has nothing but rhetoric, you have to take him at his word.
McCain and Palin have nothing but rhetoric, and if they told me the sun was shining, I'd look out the window.
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Now, as for Palin. I get that you blindly vote Democrat, but saying real conservatives are idiots is beyond naive and ignorant.
Well, saying I'm ignorant when you like Sarah Palin is beyond idiotic
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regardless, its still an irrelevant question.
In Palin's case, yes. Asking her what she reads is a downright FUTILE question.
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I am glad the media came up with a doctrine, through magical powers passed it off to all the liberals, and then assumes that normal people know what the Bush doctrine is.
Dude, it used to be discussed reverently on FOX News every other minute. Palin presumably watches that--she just didn't retain it.
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Shouldn't a President tell you what his doctrine is, like President Eisenhower did or President Kennedy did?
Funny you should mention Eisenhower, whose daughter is supporting Obama.....
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Oh wait, I forgot. Those 2 Presidents were allowed to exist without the liberal media scrutinizing everything they did, and trying to embarass them at every turn because they didn't agree with their politics.
Yeah, cable news sucks. So stop watching it.
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No. If someone is going to ruin country, and get the blame, I prefer that it be the person (and party) who have based their election on blaming someone else for bipartisan problems.
So you're saying you want Obama to fail, and America to pay the price? Well, that's certainly a very patriotic Pro-country position to take.
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And, once Obama breaks his promise of not raising taxes on 95% of the population, and cant blame Bush for more than a year for everything else, then I will get excited at the prospect of finally having some potential change in this country via Bobby Jindal.
Who btw, thinks Obama is cool, and will probably vote for him, while not admitting to it in public. He knows he hasn't got a chance of being the Republican nominee unless Obama wins first.
At least Jindal is smart--but he'll have to wait at least eight years. And you'll probably hate him by then.
PISHER please join us under the WASHINGTON POLITICS board in the SEAN HANNITY.COM forums.sometime..
It would be great fun watching you flail about with your comebacks against a board made up of informed, intelligent voters. You'd get eaten alive over there.
Ostroff pretty much hates OTH. She even said some disrepectful things abut OTH back when she was running UPN )she said those things trying to defent the "quality" of her beloved VM). Let's not forget a couple of years ago OTH was doing very well but the show was the last to be renwed. Then CW moved the last episodes of OTH's season in the summer with OTH dropping at 2 million and she decided to keep the show as a mid-season replacement.
So i understand why she is so angry now. I wouldn't be surprised to see OTH at 8pm after the New Year
Originally posted by robert: 2. NBC is crashing and burning. They lay off people, they post big financial losses and they make horrible decisions like letting Jay Leno walk (it's just an example)
I haven't read all the responses, so maybe this will have been covered by the time I post this, but...
I thought Leno's departure was originally his idea, announced _way back_ one evening when he had Gary Shandling on. Now it sounds like Leno's having second thoughts, and is a little ticked that NBC is sticking by _his_ decision to leave and have Conan take over.
Originally posted by robert: 2. NBC is crashing and burning. They lay off people, they post big financial losses and they make horrible decisions like letting Jay Leno walk (it's just an example)
I haven't read all the responses, so maybe this will have been covered by the time I post this, but...
I thought Leno's departure was originally his idea, announced _way back_ one evening when he had Gary Shandling on. Now it sounds like Leno's having second thoughts, and is a little ticked that NBC is sticking by _his_ decision to leave and have Conan take over.
I know Leno was pushed to leave, he was told by the NBC exec they want him gone from the Tonight Show. I think Marc can confirm it.
I thought Leno's departure was originally his idea, announced _way back_ one evening when he had Gary Shandling on.
Not to my knowledge...Conan O'Brien's contract was up a few years back, and he basically told the network he would walk if he didn't get "The Tonight Show." So, Jay Leno would step down in 2009, and Conan would take over, per his new contract.
This new theory sounds like something Jeff Zucker would've floated out there to make his network look like they didn't force out Leno...(when that's exactly what they did)
Wow, well does anyone else think that ABC is really overexposing Dancing with the Stars? The Recap show at 8 followed by the Results show that's been falling a bit... this feels like Millionaire all over again.
CBS is fine on Mondays but even though I get why they still air Worst Week, its obviously hurting CSI Miami.
ABC should renew Boston Legal like now. Isn't it ironic how both ABC and NBC are losing critically acclaimed dramas in Boston Legal and ER and yet those are doing so much better in the ratings? Its a bit sad.
FOX is a mess. I get that those two shows can grow but, it doesn't seem likely now. They aired like 7-9 episodes already right? But at least fans are happy about the full season.
The hate the CW. They can't stand to realize that OTH could do better than GG can they? I really miss the WB.
NBC is a mess. Chuck grew from last week but we'll see if that was a fluke. Heroes is dropping but its still heavily DVR'ed and I think its last two episodes have been like the turning point in terms of quality ( for the better) and the story arc. Maybe it can get more viewers but its still a 18-34 demo powerhouse.
Yeah, I definitely agree with you there - with the ratings its pulling in, it has to be losing money, or on the verge of losing money, for the network. It probably has the "Worst Week" affect, where somebody at FOX must love the show to death, probably paid Reilly to keep it on, and here we are
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Originally posted by Julie: Why FOX renewed SCC is beyond me - they're completely out of their minds. They should have cancelled it, not continued it.
Well, whatever the reason, I wouldn't ask Robert's "FOX sources".
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Originally posted by robert: My inside FOX sources tell me both SCC and PB will end after 13 episodes.
Well. OK. We know for sure FOX asked PB producers to end the show after 16 episodes. So something was true there.
As for SCC something very strange must've happened, i think you have to agree. There is no logical reason to keep it alive
My FOX sources at least got it right with the OC, i take comfort in that
Interesting tidbit. CSI Miami dropped for the fifth straight week. Even Heroes managed to bounce back a little last week. This can't be good for CSI Miami.
Also, I read somewhere that David Caruso was guest starring on Law and order SVU. That doesn't sound right. Does anyone know about this?
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Originally posted by TV-Fanatic: ABC should renew Boston Legal like now. Isn't it ironic how both ABC and NBC are losing critically acclaimed dramas in Boston Legal and ER and yet those are doing so much better in the ratings? Its a bit sad.
I find it very ironic - Boston Legal still does a very respectable rating. Total viewers are some of the highest ABC has right now, which is sad. It's beating all the Wednesday shows, plus shows like Ugly Betty and Eli Stone, and it usually adds a million viewers in DVR. Why ABC is ending this show I don't know, but quality wise, its on top of its game, and they're making a huge mistake.
Same goes for ER. Sure, its dropped off in the most recent years, but what's to expect for a show in its 15th season? And what I find funny is that its a demo powerhouse - its consistently the highest rated demo in the hour week after week. NBC is making an even bigger mistake ending this show. It's all they've got right now.
