Originally posted by Bruce: While I'm at it, if they are going to expand into more comedies, why not bench SURVIVOR for the fall and use the 8pm Thursday hour for a pairing?
Ooo how dare you Bruce for even mentioning it. A truly gutsy move would be moving both HIMYM and Christine to Thursday to knock NBC out of their groove. The problem here is if Survivor ended up on a night like Sunday, it would be the end of it imo. Moving programs late in their runs tends to really hurt them. See The West Wing for example a and 7th Heaven for example b.
Originally posted by vlis: poor retention for WAT (which had no real competition)
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: Thursday original finals and network averages
SHOW/NET HH A18-49 Viewers A18-34
CSI 12.4/20 5.9/15 20,577,000
WITHOUT A TRACE (10:01pm) 9.7/17 3.9/11 15,196,000
Yeah, horrible retention
WAT has according to many posters here suffered creatively this season and the ratings are showing it. The show is extremely older skewing and will likely find itself in a battle with ER for second in the demo come later this month.
It will win viewers and lose the demo, based upon this performance.
Originally posted by robert: WAT gets 15 million and you're tearing it apart.
80% of the shows wpuld kille to get those numbers at 10pm
Wow robert, do you like, work for cbs or something? can they do any wrong? do they have any weaknesses whatsoever? perhaps they don't skew old enough... ;-)
Originally posted by the128boy: You make some good points, but let's remember... on average the younger and younger you are, the easier (typically) you are to sway. So you may have less money, but you're more likely to part with it with less effort on the advertisers' part.
Besides, as nice of an idea as it is that older consumers have more money, major trends usually start with younger people.
This is not new, everybody. The revolution of the 60s was a youth movement. Nothing has changed in 50 years. It's still predominantly youth that determine what's "in". Not exclusively, but predominantly.
So what shows are hot among the 17 and under crowd?
Originally posted by yankeesrj12: In my opinion, what hurt Without a Trace was the move from Thursday's to Sunday's back to Thursday's over the past three seasons. I dont think it should of ever moved in the first place.
Agreed. Prior to the move to Sundays, it was doing much better than 75% retention in viewers and 66% retention in the demo. It's not like the competition has gotten stronger (ER is anything but stronger, and ABC has yet to utilize 10pm on Thursdays to its advantage since Grey's stormed the 9pm timeslot).
Originally posted by TravisYanan: Agreed. Prior to the move to Sundays, it was doing much better than 75% retention in viewers and 66% retention in the demo. It's not like the competition has gotten stronger (ER is anything but stronger, and ABC has yet to utilize 10pm on Thursdays to its advantage since Grey's stormed the 9pm timeslot).
The biggest competition for Thursday 10pm is to get people to watch any of the shows rather than turning to their DVRs and watching Survivor, Grey's, CSI, The Office that they recorded earlier in the evening. Thursday night is a big night for time shifted (but still same day) viewing.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Its been out for month. Ugh...old people.
OLD???!!!
Who You callin' Old???
You are so old you have lost your hair. In fact, you are so old that the skin covering your skull had thinned out to the point where your head looks like a lightbulb. How much older could a person get?
