Originally posted by tvchtw: QUOTE]Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by tvchtw:
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Originally posted by robert: Ouch for PD and PP. Slowly but surely PD becomes the next Studio 60
Great for CM once again
Ouch for everything at 8:00 and since PD lost more younger viewers I tend to think Halloween at least played a part. The difference between this and Studio 60 is its getting better and better every week. Studio 60 got worse.
That's your personal opinion. Clearly a million viewers were so happy with the last episode they chose to skip this one
And 3 weeks from tonight Ugly Betty, the office and Grey's will also get 1 to 2 million fewer viewers than the previous week. Happens every year original episodes are on a holiday (and yes I realize thanksgiving has a greater impact on viewing than halloween)[/QUOTE]
Ouch for everything at 8:00 and since PD lost more younger viewers I tend to think Halloween at least played a part. The difference between this and Studio 60 is its getting better and better every week. Studio 60 got worse.
First of all, there's always SOMEthing younger viewers can be doing at 8pm on a Wednesday night. The whole point of a show like this is to keep them home watching ABC. If Pushing Daisies can't manage that, Pushing Daisies is pushing off in the near future. It's been given every possible break, and about the easiest timeslot it could have possibly been given.
And secondly of all, it was a Halloween-themed episode, and that should have helped--if most of the people who have watched the show liked it as much as you. Fact is, a lot of people are noticing, as some people here have noticed, that the show hasn't been able to sustain its glossy production values--too costly over the long run.
Maybe the demo will go up next week.
Isn't that what the PD-boosters were saying would happen THIS week?
But you watch it every week. Shouldn't you have given up on it by now if you didnt enjoy it? Lord knows if I don't like a show after a few episodes I stop watching it.
Everybody jumping on PD's numbers - quelle surprise! Sure, ignore all of the other drops at 8pm, but focus on PD's. I guess it fits your agenda.
Anyway, NBC just can catch a break with Phenomenon suddenly fizzling and Life teetering on cancellation.
As for CBS, CM is also seeing big declines over last season when it was frequently beating Lost (in viewers, if not in the demo). Nearly every procedural is in the same spot, only some have further to fall. Absolute dreck like CM and CSI: NY will get there eventually and viewers finally reject this garbage.
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First of all, there's always SOMEthing younger viewers can be doing at 8pm on a Wednesday night. The whole point of a show like this is to keep them home watching ABC. If Pushing Daisies can't manage that, Pushing Daisies is pushing off in the near future. It's been given every possible break, and about the easiest timeslot it could have possibly been given.
And secondly of all, it was a Halloween-themed episode, and that should have helped--if most of the people who have watched the show liked it as much as you. Fact is, a lot of people are noticing, as some people here have noticed, that the show hasn't been able to sustain its glossy production values--too costly over the long run.
Yes, and tv should be able to keep viewers over Christmas too. There are lots of other things to do, but tv SHOULD be more interesting in order to keep those viewers watching all through the holidays! Pisher, even in your PD hate, you must realize that Halloween is an exception - many younger people/parents with kids aren't going to stay in to watch tv on that night no matter what's on. If you don't see that, either your ancient and don't remember past Halloweens of your own, or you're simply daft.
Easiest timeslot? Please! Wednesday at 8pm, leading into two new series - you call that easy? Big Shots was given an easy timeslot. PP has an easy-ish timeslot. A new show leading off a new night is not easy.
It must be said, I didn't even watch PD last night, and may not even continue to watch it. But I don't hold a vendetta against it like some of you people do. It's irrational.
DSM is steady as a rock , beat PD in the demo and has been #2 5 straight weeks, viewership is steady and crushing a show that already recieved a full season. This result should get ABC picking up the phone for a Back Nine!!
2.9/8 18-49 DSM(76% retention out of PP) 2.6/8 18-49 PD
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BTW is really necessary for so many shows to air a Halloween themed episode. It's like seeing the same show all over again. I mean we know it's Halloween, do we have it to see it on the TV screen also.
ABC numbers were about what I expected...barely any fall-off for Dirty Sexy Money, and Pushing Daisies affected the most by Halloweening young families.
Life really suffered a severe drop without its Bionic lead-in. It will be back next week when Jamie Sommers returns.
The rebound in Kid Nation numbers has stopped, and CBS now has two 2.0-in-demo series to drag down their weekly young adult numbers.
Kitchen Nightmares repeats well, the FOX sitcoms lesser so, and Gossip Girl has One Tree Hill encore-itis.
I think that before the winter break PD will remain at around 8-9 million viewers. But after the winter break (strike permitiing) i think PD will drop in the 7 million range. But still i think PD might see a second season.
It's one of the shows that are expected to be hit the hardest by the writer's strike. That alone could doom it--people are already losing interest quickly, and a long hiatus is going to make it even harder.
If its total audience ends up around 7mil, what do you think its 18-49 #'s will be?
IMO, they're already lower than ABC can live with, longterm. If PD can't stay above 3.0 in the 18-49 demo, it's toast.
Originally posted by tvchtw: QUOTE]Originally posted by robert:
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Originally posted by tvchtw:
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Originally posted by robert: Ouch for PD and PP. Slowly but surely PD becomes the next Studio 60
Great for CM once again
Ouch for everything at 8:00 and since PD lost more younger viewers I tend to think Halloween at least played a part. The difference between this and Studio 60 is its getting better and better every week. Studio 60 got worse.
That's your personal opinion. Clearly a million viewers were so happy with the last episode they chose to skip this one
And 3 weeks from tonight Ugly Betty, the office and Grey's will also get 1 to 2 million fewer viewers than the previous week. Happens every year original episodes are on a holiday (and yes I realize thanksgiving has a greater impact on viewing than halloween)
You cannot compare Thanksgiving with Halloween.[/QUOTE] Halloween doesn't have the effect Thanksgiving does but it does have an affect. The best scenario for Halloween is to actually air repeats since a lot of the younger crowd is out. Older skewing stuff like that on CBS however, manages to hold on because the older folks stay home.
For those who will find the Halloween as an excuse for the poor PD's numbers i want to give an advice: look at CM, CSINY or DSM' numbers before
well. CM and CSI:NY mostly skew old, so its obvious that most older people wont go trick or treating, nor would they go to a halloween party, even in the 18-49 demo of both shows, most of the viewers in that demo are 35-49, and DSM completely depends on its lead in
but you have to agree that everything else took a big hit, I mean I am open fan of PD, but even I didnt watch it since I was out(no way I am staying home to watch tv in halloween), I actually recorded it and watched it later(it was an excellent episode, the best so far IMHO), but if it doesnt increase next week and it continues to fall, I will be the first to admit that it is in trouble
No new episode next week, but yes, I'm sure it'll rebound in 2 weeks time when the next episode airs.
All you daisy bashers need to re-read the original post. HUT levels were DOWN.
You'll soon be proved wrong when PD rebounds with its next episode. It's not "studio 60 all over again", its still 1 of the highest rated new shows morons. Take a look at the ratings of other new shows.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Well last night was Halloween so hut levels were much lower. I'd say it will bounce back next week.
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Originally posted by robert: Ouch for PD and PP. Slowly but surely PD becomes the next Studio 60
Great for CM once again
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