Why get angry when somebody does reply? Would you prefer being ignored? It can be arranged.
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Other than to prove how less funny than the unfunny Jay Leno you are?
I agree Jay is unfunny. Not necessarily the same Jay you mean.......
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It is also "funny" how you refer to one of the highest rated series on NBC as a "crappy lead-in" (i.e. "The Biggest Loser"). Crappy or not, it gets better ratings than "The Office", but so does most every other series on television.
Oh man, you're still in a snit about The Office? I had forgotten all about that discussion. If you want to call it that.
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What is established is that you are NOT funny
Psst! It's not established for Marc.
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and the only person who thinks so is probably you and your mother, who is the founder, president, and only member of your fan club.
Marc! You never told me you were my mother! Or even worse, about the fan club!
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The only reason you even reply to people's messages is so you have a reason to get out of bed in the morning...that, and to use the cut and paste feature on your computer.
I have two computers. One is at my job. Which is what gets me out of bed in the morning. Darnit. And btw, I'd be happy to show you how to cut and paste.
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pisher=an idiot without a village
Jay=Yet another poster on this forum who creates a signature just to bash me, thus proving my insignificance yet again.
If this show settles in at anything higher than 5 million viewers a night, I will be surprised. The number of superstar guests is limited and the show itself is just more of that same old stuff.
1)Five million might just be enough.
2)Michael Moore is a superstar?
3)Viewers hate the same old stuff? Tell that to CSI. And every other procedural on the air. And really, 99% of primetime.
Does the CW ever pull anything no matter how bad the ratings are?
(pisher makes a mental note--this was the day Veronica Mars disappeared from the public consciousness forever. Except on that idiotic list of cult shows EW just put out).
Btw--Jay--I wasn't responding to your posts so much as the repeated dictum that Leno is 'lead-in dependent'. You were far from the only person to repeat this like it meant something, and it wasn't really you I was responding to, but the statement itself.
All shows with lead-ins are affected somewhat by them. Certainly all 10pm shows. But at this point, we don't know what kind of stable following Leno might or might not get. As the weeks go by, and NBC's fall schedule settles in, we can start to extrapolate trends, but right now, it just strikes me as ridiculous. It's been three nights. The second and third nights are actually pretty close. There are a number of other variables to be considered. Like, for example, whether the show can improve from what most of us agree was a sub-par premiere.
That you think I'm not funny (when you think I'm making fun of you) is not noteworthy.
That you think Jay Leno is UNfunny, when he's been cracking up audiences for decades, since before he even had his own show, and did hilarious routines on Letterman's Late Night--and beat Letterman in latenight for years--that's pretty hilarious.
I agree with this. And it seems like every year, CW has a shortage of mid-season shows. Even if it's just reality filler, they need to program more backups.
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Most of all, what CW needs is another 3 or 4 shows for midseason instead of just the one. Doubling up on Life Unexpected as you suggest is a bad idea.
Tonight's the night that FRINGE returns to make a last stand before getting mowed down by the CSI/ANATOMY juggernaught in the coming weeks.
CSI and Greys are both steadily declining. The Office is well past its peak. Far as I'm concerned, Fringe owns Thursday. Maybe I don't like it after this season, but I'm glad FOX put it there. It's a gutsy move, whether it pays off or not.
So there'll be no whiny "Oh they killed Fringe by moving it there, they never supported it, it had no lead-in, there wasn't enough promotion, oh woe is meeee!" remarks from my direction if Fringe goes down this year, trust me. IF Fringe goes down.
Who here selected "Beautiful Life" in the Cancellation Clock Contest this past summer? If so, you may get some early points in the game.
As for tonight, I can't wait for "Fringe" but I hate this new day & time for it. Too much time slot competition. If FOX doesn't move this show to air after Idol this winter (if it even continues on the air then), this may have a shorter shelf life than banal crap like "Castle."
America, c'mon - didn't last season's cliffhanger with William Bell at the WTC capture your attention?!? What a great scene that was!
As for VD, I think it will have a drop similar to MP at around 20%. The competition is tougher. It will also be interesting to see how Supernatural does against Fringe. These two shows seem to be appealing to the same exact audience in the same exact timeslot.
Um--no--there's overlap, both being genre shows with a kind of dark moody atmosphere, but 'the same exact audience'? Nuh-uh.
SPN's core audience is going to HATE Fringe with a passion this season.
Fringe's core audience will continue to be marginally aware SPN is still on.
As for tonight, I can't wait for "Fringe" but I hate this new day & time for it.
And I love it--been too long since there was a Thursday drama worth watching.
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Too much time slot competition.
Fringe is a big-budget show that has gotten a ton of promotion--including cross-promotion, via the Star Trek movie with Nimoy. If it can't compete against the big boys and gals, now's the time to find out. It does not need to win the timeslot to stick around.
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If FOX doesn't move this show to air after Idol this winter (if it even continues on the air then), this may have a shorter shelf life than banal crap like "Castle."
No. It won't.
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America, c'mon - didn't last season's cliffhanger with William Bell at the WTC capture your attention?!? What a great scene that was!
Yes. It was. But I'm still waiting for this show to REALLY blow me away. And like I said, now's the time. Put up or shut up, Fringe.
Tonight's the night that FRINGE returns to make a last stand before getting mowed down by the CSI/ANATOMY juggernaught in the coming weeks.
CSI and Greys are both steadily declining. The Office is well past its peak. Far as I'm concerned, Fringe owns Thursday. Maybe I don't like it after this season, but I'm glad FOX put it there. It's a gutsy move, whether it pays off or not.
So there'll be no whiny "Oh they killed Fringe by moving it there, they never supported it, it had no lead-in, there wasn't enough promotion, oh woe is meeee!" remarks from my direction if Fringe goes down this year, trust me. IF Fringe goes down.
But I wouldn't count on that, if I were you.
I think its going to get crushed.
Define 'crushed', please.
I would define it as coming in no better than fourth in HH and no better than third in the demo.
It can have smaller overall audiences than CSI and Greys and still have a very viable share--like The Office has done for years.
Or it could surprise us. I mean, I don't for one minute expect it to be #1. But remember when Greys first went up against CSI? Remember the predictions then?
Fringe will never be the monster hit Greys became, but that's not the goal--the goal is to build up a very desirable audience of younger viewers who see this as appointment television. If they're DVRing it to hell, FOX made a mistake. You won't see me pulling the DVR excuse out of the deck. pisher don't play that.
This is quite possibly THE most interesting timeslot of the fall, thanks to FOX's ballsy play. As Leonard Nimoy's OTHER TV character of note might say--Fascinating.
Originally posted by Joseph: With most of his time period competition in reruns this week, it's no surprise that Jay Leno has had three strong nights thus far.
The next few weeks will begin to tell the tale.
No doubt Jay will get heavily promoted by NBC during both "Sunday Night Football" and the upcoming Winter Olympics.
My verdict: On the one hand, Jay Leno will be part of NBC's prime-time schedule for the next few years.
But on the other hand, he may be on only once or twice a week after this season.
And even sooner than that, look for fewer and shorter interview segments and more comedy and music performances.
One of the more believable predictions I've seen so far.
I honestly don't see him doing any worse than this.
However, I'm not clear on whether NBC is in a position to unilaterally cut the number of nights he's on. It would probably involve some negotiations. It would also involve shelling out for more programming.
Originally posted by pisher: Jay=Yet another poster on this forum who creates a signature just to bash me, thus proving my insignificance yet again.
Yet another brilliant cut and paste job, pishoff, keep 'em coming. They just never get old.
I don't mind replies, when someone actually has something to contribute and isn't auditioning for the next season of America Doesn't Have Talent with only snarky replies that don't add anything to the conversation other than to inflate your own ego.
I don't even bother to read your meaningless rants anymore. You're the cyber equivalent of a person who talks just to hear himself talk. I'll be breathlessly waiting your next inane cut and paste reply.
Considering the network runs several hours a repeats a week, how hard is it to come up with at least a few shows people might watch?
Apparently too hard, based on the miserable results.
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Originally posted by WlcmZapataTexas: ...it seems like every year, CW has a shortage of mid-season shows. Even if it's just reality filler, they need to program more backups.
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Most of all, what CW needs is another 3 or 4 shows for midseason instead of just the one. Doubling up on Life Unexpected as you suggest is a bad idea.
'Glee' tracks liven up Billboard 100 'Take a Bow,' 'Don't Stop Believin' ' on chart
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The top six songs on the Billboard Hot 100 hold steady this week, but the new season of Fox's "Glee" brings joy to the chart.
The television show's cast recording of Rihanna's hit "Take a Bow" is the week's top debut at No. 46. The song scored 53,000 downloads after the show's season premiere Sept. 9. "Don't Stop Believin'," another song covered by the motley crew of musical misfits on "Glee," re-enters this week's chart at No. 78. The cast version of the Journey classic first made its debut on the chart in May after the "Glee" pilot aired, which prompted 177,000 downloads in the chart week that followed
