I may be biased because I like the show (as a guilty pleasure, nothing more), but despite Big Shots' losses, does it really deserve the Loser label the week? It increased over last week in all categories. How many other freshmen shows have done that? It also won its hour in the demo, which was enough for Marc to put Pushing Daisies as a "winner" yesterday, despite drop off from the premiere and slight dips at the half hour. Not saying Big Shots should be a winner, because retention is nothing to crow about nor is the 10:30pm drop off, but is it really a loser this week?
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The thing about Big Shots is I think the final numbers will be down because of the runover from Grey's Anatomy. I think once those final numbers come out, it won't have increased viewership from last week. And with such poor retention, I think it does deserve to be in the losers column.
Even though retentin wasn't great for Big Shots, it did increase in ratings in demos. Being #1 in the demo is good news for Big Shots.
ER is just falling behind. Ratings aren't horrible compared to how other 10 PMers are doing.
Supernatural had a great pickup of 250K viewers. It's starting to do the numbers that it is used to.
Don't Forget the Lyrics is the weak link in the FOX lineup. 1.8 in the demos? It skews very old. It's a summer show that isn't going to be a major player in the fall.
UB had a little ratings pick up, but the drop from last year is still huge. Survivor is absolutely dominating it.
30 Rock dropped a lot from it's almost 8 mil ratings last week. It's still the weak link in the comedy lineup.
Regarding Thursdays...would anyone care to speculate why CBS refuses to air TAR between the SURVIVORS editions when theoretically UGLY BETTY and THE NBC COMEDIES would be in reruns? Wouldn't viewers flock to fresh programming in that hour?
I don't think there is enough time. Survivor is only off for about 7-8 weeks. TAR's seasons have been about 16 episodes, right??
Thats a lost of doubling up during the Holiday Season
Originally posted by Marc Berman: CBS’ veteran Without a Trace was first in the 10 p.m. hour in total viewers, but second behind ABC’s Big Shots among adults 18-49. Third overall was NBC’s needs-to-retire ER. Take a look:
Thursday 10 p.m. Without a Trace (CBS) Viewers: 13.63 million (#1), A18-49: 3.6/10 (#2)
Big Shots (ABC) Viewers: 9.26 million (#2), A18-49: 3.9/11 (#1)
ER (NBC) Viewers: 8.41 million (#3), A18-49: 3.4/ 9 (#3)
Big Shots remains in the loser’s circle despite the first-place finish among adults 18-49 because of a) poor retention out of Grey’s Anatomy of 50 percent in total viewers and 51 percent among adults 18-49, and b) a loss of audience in the second half hour of 3.02 million viewers (10.77 to 7.75 million) and 30 percent among adults 18-49 (4.6/12 to 3.2/ 9). Since part of the 10 p.m. half-hour included the last few minutes of Grey’s Anatomy, it is obvious this drama is a miss.
NBC, meanwhile, should be announcing the retirement of ER any day now.
Source: Nielsen Media Research data
Wow, Big Shots won in A18-49 off of such a paltry metered market number. With a numeric advantage like this in A18-49, it will probably crush Without a Trace and ER in A18-34 when those numbers are announced, even accounting for the 3 minute Grey's overlap into the hour.
I'm still waiting for Mr. Rob Thomas's influence on Big Shots to be felt...please, please Mr. Thomas, dispense with the tedious mystery of that silly little black book already!
Nice to see Supernatural rise above the 3M mark, and for 30 Rock to have another demo in the 3.0 range.
I wonder how MyNetworkTV did last night with their highly promoted Revenge of the Nerds movie...nerds as subject matter seem to be all the rage this fall.
They should also try interjecting themself into Grey's and have them end the constant Izzy/George plot. Grey's writers need some help when they put their lead couple on the show for a minute but have 40 minutes of Izzy and George.
I agree. This board is bias against Big Shots, but you can't deny the fact that it won it's demo and ratings went up. Retention is still poor, but ABC doesn't care about that if they are winning the demos. DSM is in a lot more trouble than Big Shots.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: I may be biased because I like the show (as a guilty pleasure, nothing more), but despite Big Shots' losses, does it really deserve the Loser label the week? It increased over last week in all categories. How many other freshmen shows have done that? It also won its hour in the demo, which was enough for Marc to put Pushing Daisies as a "winner" yesterday, despite drop off from the premiere and slight dips at the half hour. Not saying Big Shots should be a winner, because retention is nothing to crow about nor is the 10:30pm drop off, but is it really a loser this week?
Big Shots numbers are really embarassing. I mean it does 9 million from 19 million lead in while Cane and DSM are getting 9 million form a 12 million lead-in. BS It's by far the big loser of this season. I don't say it shoul be cancelled but it doesn't deserve to be after GA Good numbers for UB, CSI and GA How can NBC be happy with those pathetic numbers for their sitcoms? Oh i forgot NBC is happy even with 7 million viewers these days
Originally posted by SP52GHT: Mark- Do you think there is a way for Greys' to get back up to year ago levels?
IMHO, if they keep turning in episodes as great as last night's, they will. Last night I DVR'd Grey's and watched The Office live. Next week, I'll reverse that. Grey's was THAT good last night.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: I may be biased because I like the show (as a guilty pleasure, nothing more), but despite Big Shots' losses, does it really deserve the Loser label the week? It increased over last week in all categories. How many other freshmen shows have done that? It also won its hour in the demo, which was enough for Marc to put Pushing Daisies as a "winner" yesterday, despite drop off from the premiere and slight dips at the half hour. Not saying Big Shots should be a winner, because retention is nothing to crow about nor is the 10:30pm drop off, but is it really a loser this week?
You're certanly biased if you think a show with 49% retention it's not a loser. I mean it gets beaten by UB which has no lead in
