For 90210, it did have a significant drop, but it did go up against a 2hr Wipeout, the season finale of The Secret Life of the American Teenager, and the much hyped premiere of Fringe. Fringe did have disappointing ratings, but it still beat the premieres of Prison Break and The Sarah Connor Chronicles, by a lot. Fringe could easily do better with House as a lead-in and then eventually American Idol.
I'd go further than disappointing numbers for Fringe. Those numbers are downright terrible for the amount of promotion and attention FOX gave the series. With less than a fifth of the promotion, Bones did better, just to put things in perspective.
90210's numbers really dropped. If it drops anymore than it is in unacceptable territory.
Privileged numbers are decent and pretty much as expected, but look at those demos. A 1.3? This show is old skewing right off the bat and already is losing a good chunk the young audience that stuck around to watch the second episode of 90210.
Also as expected, the second airing of Hole In the Wall dropped significantly in the ratings and is already way too low. It'll be disasterous when it moves into Thursday.
So to recap, T:SCC, PB, KN, Hole In The Wall, and Fringe debuted this year as huge disappointments. Bones and 5th Grader were successes. 2 out of 7 is not a good record with only TD, DND, House, and DFTL left. FOX has some mid-season work to do. Fast.
I had no idea Wipeout was to be on for 2 hours. Luckly my DVR picked it up. Good episode at 8pm with new courses and expanded filed of 32. Came close both times to having the first female winner of the game.
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Originally posted by spotupj: Everyone will be talking about Fringe/90210 but I just want to note a couple other things:
Nice rebound for Wipeout even against something resembling "real competition." Probably some sighs of relief on ABC's part after this show had dipped into low 2's for about a month. A summer show beating Talent head-to-head in the demo for two hours is really something, as is basically tying Fox's two hours, which included 90 minutes of the so-called biggest new show of the season.
Talent is really skewing ancient now.
Hole in the Wall having to go head to head with Wipeout was not a good situation at all, but I still wouldn't expect much when it debuts on Thursday.
Nice comeback numbers for Wipeout. Good to see them throw fresh episodes (including what appeared to be the show's pilot in the first hour) against real competition.
Fringe's debut numbers were a tad disappointing, but we should remember that it was up against AGT, a new Wipeout, BB10 and 90210 (which turned out to bomb). A House leadin should likely benefit the show, at least for the first week.
Hole in the Wall took a bit of a tumble. A show like that would have made great Saturday morning fare in the late 70s.
Originally posted by TV-aholic: So you think a brand new show should be able to our rate an established hit vet. series with its first episode, with no leadin?
Of course when the show is the second most promoted and buzzed new show. Don't tell 8 million is a good result for Fringe please
Buzzzzz means nothing and this proves it. Buzzzzz is just a marketing ploy to sell a product.
Reality is that MOST new series start low and build. Fringe should be no different.
And 9 million for a premiere, with no lead-in, is good for this type of a program. Not spectacular, but good.
I thought Fringe was watchable, decently cast, and had some pretty good dialogue--but it was also WAY overproduced. JJ always likes to throw money at a problem. That stupid graphic at the beginning of each scene that tells you where you are in big block 3D letters--his idea, bet you anything--and it's annoying.
The X-Files was anything but a ratings hit when it started out, but they kept the budgets low at first (Glen Morgan & James Wong were particularly responsible for that), and they let interest build.
They promoted Fringe to the point where some people probably felt it was being rammed down their throats. A good PR campaign, but maybe a bit too pushy.
The timing was right for The X-Files--similar shows had flopped in the past. It may not be the right time for a show like Fringe, with a budget like Fringe.
Didn't hate it, didn't love it--if I've got nothing better to do when it's on, I'll probably watch.
I did not appreciate the anti-science screed of the pilot, and I'm hoping they tone that down a bit.
John Noble is really fun to watch as the mad scientist.
Fringe's numbers aren't great, but I don't think thwt they're horrible. And with House next week, they could see a bump. Unfortunately, I didn't get to watch it last night, so I'll have to wait for the Sunday repeat.
I watched 90210 last night, and I'm not surprised it did poorly. That wasn't a very good episode. It's probably going to drop even more now. As for Privileged, it will probably be gone by mid-season.
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Originally posted by jdinan: Hole in the Wall took a bit of a tumble. A show like that would have made great Saturday morning fare in the late 70s.
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Yea, last night was my first sample of the show and it was... OK. Over produced. I liked the Japanese versions better on YouTube. HitW didn't retain the comedic edge the Original had.
What? This isn't the case at all. Most new series start at its highest and drop off. If most new shows gained in ratings, over 75% of new shows wouldn't be cancelled within the first year, over 80% within two.
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Reality is that MOST new series start low and build. Fringe should be no different.
did you guys forget that there is a 90210 repeat on wednesdays? maybe some of them skipped the tuesdays one for the encore. it maybe in the 4 mil range when stylista permieres and knocks the encore off the schedule.
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I do expect Fringe to be a HIT for FOX. Perhaps average about 10-12 million this season.
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: What? This isn't the case at all. Most new series start at its highest and drop off. If most new shows gained in ratings, over 75% of new shows wouldn't be cancelled within the first year, over 80% within two.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Reality is that MOST new series start low and build. Fringe should be no different.
Remember : whan House started, 7-8 million viewers were watching the show during the fall. House became a success because it aired after American Idol.
And who is going to be aired afer Idol this year ? Fringe !!
