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Originally posted by tvismyjob:

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Originally posted by robert:
CBS is managing to ruin their only new show that used to do good: BBT.

How so? It's ratings last night were no worse than they were in the later time slot.

We'll see in the finals, but i think it'll be lower. And they're worse than HMYM. Now i wonder: whu HMYM gets such a favour? After all is in its 3rd season.

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Originally posted by Chimera:

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Originally posted by robert:
ABC is poised to cancel WMC, no doubt about that

If they did, they wouldn't have bothered to change EPs and put it back into production this Spring. They do want to give it a chance to succeed. If they can give MIT and OR 3,4, and 5 chances, they can give WMC another shot. And it should not even be debatable, as WMC won its Friday timeslot almost every week it had an original episode last Fall.

WMC should've been renewed by now.

Yes, we'll see. But don't think of the time change as a bad thing. It's a vote of confidence in BBT to put it in the lead position so early on. If they're patient, it may actually work.

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by tvismyjob:

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Originally posted by robert:
CBS is managing to ruin their only new show that used to do good: BBT.

How so? It's ratings last night were no worse than they were in the later time slot.

We'll see in the finals, but i think it'll be lower. And they're worse than HMYM. Now i wonder: whu HMYM gets such a favour? After all is in its 3rd season.

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WMC should've been renewed by now.

It should have, based on its merits, but it doesn't mean it won't. The shows renewed so far as considered 'early' renewals -- typical renewals aren't handed out until these next couple of months. And the strike threw the renewal pattern into a further spin.

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by tvismyjob:

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Originally posted by robert:
CBS is managing to ruin their only new show that used to do good: BBT.

How so? It's ratings last night were no worse than they were in the later time slot.

We'll see in the finals, but i think it'll be lower. And they're worse than HMYM. Now i wonder: whu HMYM gets such a favour? After all is in its 3rd season.

I'm sure Big Bang will be fine. If it pulls 8 million or even high 7 million, that's not that concerning. I completely agree about HIMYM. How much love will CBS give this show? And with Britney Spears next week, why not have it be the lead off show to strengthen the whole night? Confusing indeed. Both will be back next year and both are doing fine though imo. The key last night was Christine's solid retention out of 2.5 Men. Good news there indeed. The Bachelor could seriously use a break next fall and let a new drama take over 10pm and utilize the Dancing/SW lead in.

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Originally posted by tvismyjob:
Yes, we'll see. But don't think of the time change as a bad thing. It's a vote of confidence in BBT to put it in the lead position so early on. If they're patient, it may actually work.

I agree with you. I still think that this timeslot switch is simply a way for CBS to determine if BBT is strong enough to be a lead in...so that HIMYM and BBT can both be used as lead-ins next year. Why is there so much sniveling about HIMYM getting special 'treatment'? It isn't like HIMYM has even been given that cushy spot at 9:30pm following 2&1/2Men firstrun episodes. HIMYM has been put in the more difficult role of leading the 8pm hour for much of its existence.

How do the numbers for the CBS 8 o'clock hour compare to before they were switched?

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Tied for first in the 10 p.m. hour was NBC’s Medium and a repeat of CBS’ CSI: Miami at a 6.7/11 each.

Maybe this will be the week Medium gets put in the winner's column for beating an original The Bachelor which had the added benefit of the DWTS premiere, and a 28 minute head-start...

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by tvismyjob:
Yes, we'll see. But don't think of the time change as a bad thing. It's a vote of confidence in BBT to put it in the lead position so early on. If they're patient, it may actually work.

I agree with you. I still think that this timeslot switch is simply a way for CBS to determine if BBT is strong enough to be a lead in...so that HIMYM and BBT can both be used as lead-ins next year. Why is there so much sniveling about HIMYM getting special 'treatment'? It isn't like HIMYM has even been given that cushy spot at 9:30pm following 2&1/2Men firstrun episodes. HIMYM has been put in the more difficult role of leading the 8pm hour for much of its existence.

Actually, HIMYM has aired behind 2.5 Men the last two summers at some point in an attempt to increase viewership. It never did real hot there and its not like CBS has anything else to lead off the night at that point. My thoughts are that Big Bang will be left to lead off Mondays next year and that HIMYM will move to either Wed. or Sun. along with Christine. Rules will slide up to 8:30 with a new comedy on Monday at 9:30.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Why is there so much sniveling about HIMYM getting special 'treatment'? It isn't like HIMYM has even been given that cushy spot at 9:30pm following 2&1/2Men firstrun episodes.

Actually, HIMYM has aired behind 2.5 Men the last two summers at some point in an attempt to increase viewership.

I wasn't aware that 2&1/2Men aired any first run episodes over the summer. If BBT is aired after 2&1/2Men this summer, will that end your calls of favoritism?

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Originally posted by Chimera:

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Comparatively, season four of Dancing with the Stars opened with a 15.1/22 on the year-ago evening. Do the math and this is a loss of 11 percent -- no cause for any concern. My pick for the first male contestant to depart: Penn Gillette.

Marc, the first DWTS eliminations will happen the following Tuesday after 1 more week of performances. And it will be a double elimination -- my picks, your aforementioned Penn Gillette, as well as the clumsy Adam Carolla.

I think the real contestants in danger will be the women who dance from 9-10 tonight when viewership will be much lower because of AI.

Sunday original finals and network averages

SHOW/NET                                  HH  A18-49     Viewers  A18-34

ABC                                    5.4/9   3.2/9   8,985,000
CBS                                    5.2/9   2.0/6   8,016,000
NBC                                    5.2/9   2.0/5   7,797,000
FOX                                    3.2/5   2.5/7   5,142,000
CW                                     0.7/1   0.4/1   1,026,000   0.5/1

AMERICA'S FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS         4.1/7   2.3/7   7,306,000
EXTREME MAKEOVER: HOME EDITION        7.1/11  4.1/11  12,050,000
OPRAH'S BIG GIVE                       6.0/9   3.6/9   9,737,000
HERE COME THE NEWLYWEDS                4.4/8   2.8/7   6,750,000

60 MINUTES                            7.3/13   2.0/6  11,297,000
BIG BROTHER (7:59pm, 59 minutes)       4.1/7   2.3/6   6,283,000
DEXTER (9:58pm)                        4.2/7   1.8/5   6,462,000

DATELINE (2 hours)                     5.4/9   1.9/6   8,104,000

KING OF THE HILL (8:31pm, 29 minutes)  3.7/6   2.9/8   6,030,000
UNHITCHED                              2.8/4   2.3/6   4,427,000

EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS                  0.8/1   0.5/1   1,185,000   0.5/2
ALIENS IN AMERICA                      0.6/1   0.4/1     909,000   0.3/1

DIRT (10pm, 61 minutes)                1.0/2   0.8/2   1,542,000
JOHN ADAMS (8:01pm, 71 minutes)        1.4/2   0.6/2   2,518,000
JOHN ADAMS (9:12pm, 92 minutes)        1.5/3   0.7/2   2,800,000
ROCK OF LOVE                           1.7/3   1.5/4   2,553,000
SCOTT BAIO IS 46...                    1.1/2   1.0/3   1,666,000

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Originally posted by College Basketball Fan:

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Originally posted by Chimera:

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Comparatively, season four of Dancing with the Stars opened with a 15.1/22 on the year-ago evening. Do the math and this is a loss of 11 percent -- no cause for any concern. My pick for the first male contestant to depart: Penn Gillette.

Marc, the first DWTS eliminations will happen the following Tuesday after 1 more week of performances. And it will be a double elimination -- my picks, your aforementioned Penn Gillette, as well as the clumsy Adam Carolla.

I think the real contestants in danger will be the women who dance from 9-10 tonight when viewership will be much lower because of AI.

It's not going to be much lower -- possibly somewhat lower, but not enough to affect voting. Just because more viewers might have watched Adam Carolla and Penn Gillette struggle on Monday, doesn't mean they'll vote for them. Last night, aside from Monica Seles, the rest of the ladies were really impressive and should have garnered enough votes. At most, it might be a split between one of those two guys and Monica Seles.
Regardless, everybody has one more performance this coming Monday before the first double elimination the following Tuesday. The votes and judges scores from this week will be added to those from next week.