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DSM will be helped out by the fact that NBC made a horrible programming choice in LJ. The female audience will gravitate towards DSM, abandoning LJ. I just don't know if its enough to stay around for a full year. A lot will depend on how PP opens and what lead in it can provide. quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I think of the three ABC shows, the one that has the best chance is actually Dirty Sexy Money. Great reviews for the new season. Me thinks it has the chance to grow out of Private Practice in the long run. Lipstick Jungle will likely be toast by next Thursday. Perhaps they should try that on Tuesdays and shorten Biggest Loser to an hour?
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Anybody who is commenting that the CBS sitcoms did okay, etc. is absolutely kidding themselves. These numbers are horrible. There is no way in the world CBS is keeping on sitcoms getting less than 7 million viewers. Do you really think CBS put these shows on to do less numbers than Kid Nation ? They also skewed so old. With the expense of paying Julia Louis Dreyfus CBS probably lost money last night. They finished last in 4th place, as well. I am guilty of this before also, but anyone saying these shows did okay is simply saying it because they like the shows. After all the promotion for Christine moving, and all the promotion for the GU premiere CBS executives have to be sick to their stomachs today.
I know CBS got pressured from ABC trying to take the show from them, but why in the world is CBS moving its weakest returning sitcom to anchor a new night.
I think these shows could go up a little next week with no DWTS in the time slot, but they better go up and I mean a lot.
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quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: Anytime you have a show that is solid, CBS would be wise to show some patience. Especially since this show has come along way from it's very mediocre to poor first season (in terms of quality). The show has been consistently funny since last year and I think (hope/pray) the numbers will only go up from here because I really believe in this show and that it will find an audience. As for Gary. I'm glad people here and on other boards seem to like this show. I do believe it is one that could find its groove if given a chance and it's miles above cable attempts at humor like Bill Engvall. quote: Originally posted by TV-aholic: Although the numbers are not much to crow about, They are somewhat respectible for what the series are. Old Christine is a Veteran, on the bubble (ratingswise), series that leads into a new series. Both of the shows should stay here until mid January, if not longer. Plus once DWTS is out of the slot in a couple of weeks, We should see a bump in the numbers. quote: Season four of CBS’ relocated The New Adventures of Old Christine opened the evening for the Eye net with a fourth-place 6.70 million viewers and a 2.1/ 6 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. That led into the premiere of the painfully generic Gary Unmarried, with 6.84 million viewers and a 2.3/ 6 in the demo at 8:30 p.m. (also No. 4). One year earlier, failed occupant Kid Nation averaged a stronger 7.62 million viewers and a 2.8/ 8 among adults 18-49 in this time period.
Last I checked Old Christine is in its fourth season. It also has had the nurturing behind Two and a Half Men in the most plum time slot on TV. If it has not found its audience by now how is it ever going to find one ? I really don't know how you can even think a fourth year show now moving to a worse time slot then it had is going to find an audience. |
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Half-hour results should be interesting specially for cbs dramas because CSI:NY number includes 15 minutes of criminal minds.
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quote: Originally posted by Marc Berman: I totally agree, and DSM was getting buzz right before the writer's strike hit. quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj: quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Absolutely nothing surprising about these numbers... except maybe CBS's comedy block not tanking to the degree I expected.
We'll see if ABC can successfully relaunch it's Wednesday next week... the varying degrees of success of that relaunch *is* something I'm interested to see.
I think of the three ABC shows, the one that has the best chance is actually Dirty Sexy Money. Great reviews for the new season. Me thinks it has the chance to grow out of Private Practice in the long run. Lipstick Jungle will likely be toast by next Thursday. Perhaps they should try that on Tuesdays and shorten Biggest Loser to an hour?
Marc, i've heard the same thing on your webcast and i was shocked. Are you sure you don't confuse DSM with another show, maybe with PD. DSM was doing horrible before the break, and there is no chance it'll do better this season. Maybe the first episode will get a bump thanks to PP but it will come down around 6 million again. |
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Yes, this is the weakest time slot on the CBS schedule and will be for a while, but Old Christine is no 2.5 Men or even BBT or HIMYM.... or even Rules... for that matter. For what the shows are and when they were on, The did "OK" in the ratings. There is room to grow, and I suspect they will. I can see a peak of about 8 million for either/both of the shows with an average of around 7.4 million. And just to clearify, I am NOT a fan of Old Christine and may not ever whatch GU, but quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
Anybody who is commenting that the CBS sitcoms did okay, etc. is absolutely kidding themselves. These numbers are horrible. There is no way in the world CBS is keeping on sitcoms getting less than 7 million viewers. Do you really think CBS put these shows on to do less numbers than Kid Nation ? They also skewed so old. With the expense of paying Julia Louis Dreyfus CBS probably lost money last night. They finished last in 4th place, as well. I am guilty of this before also, but anyone saying these shows did okay is simply saying it because they like the shows. After all the promotion for Christine moving, and all the promotion for the GU premiere CBS executives have to be sick to their stomachs today.
I know CBS got pressured from ABC trying to take the show from them, but why in the world is CBS moving its weakest returning sitcom to anchor a new night.
I think these shows could go up a little next week with no DWTS in the time slot, but they better go up and I mean a lot.
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I agree. Anyone who thinks these numbers are good aren't grasping the point of CBS comedies. They are supposed to be demo grabbers to offset the older skewing but widely watched CBS dramas. CBS will sacrifice a lower viewership rating to get a demo in the 3's, but they will not settle for comedies that don't deliever in either. Christine getting a 2.1 demo is disasterous. Gary Unmarried will drop second week and will dip below that demo number. I do think that it is a little odd that the same people blasting Worst Week are praising the CBS Wednesday comedy performances. In reality, all three did poorly, but CBS will keep Worst Week above the other two because at least it is delivering an acceptable viewership/demo number right now. The other two aren't. They might as well stick CBS drama repeats on Wednesday. It would do about the same. quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
Anybody who is commenting that the CBS sitcoms did okay, etc. is absolutely kidding themselves. These numbers are horrible. There is no way in the world CBS is keeping on sitcoms getting less than 7 million viewers. Do you really think CBS put these shows on to do less numbers than Kid Nation ? They also skewed so old. With the expense of paying Julia Louis Dreyfus CBS probably lost money last night. They finished last in 4th place, as well. I am guilty of this before also, but anyone saying these shows did okay is simply saying it because they like the shows. After all the promotion for Christine moving, and all the promotion for the GU premiere CBS executives have to be sick to their stomachs today.
I know CBS got pressured from ABC trying to take the show from them, but why in the world is CBS moving its weakest returning sitcom to anchor a new night.
I think these shows could go up a little next week with no DWTS in the time slot, but they better go up and I mean a lot.
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quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
Anybody who is commenting that the CBS sitcoms did okay, etc. is absolutely kidding themselves. These numbers are horrible. There is no way in the world CBS is keeping on sitcoms getting less than 7 million viewers. Do you really think CBS put these shows on to do less numbers than Kid Nation ? They also skewed so old. With the expense of paying Julia Louis Dreyfus CBS probably lost money last night. They finished last in 4th place, as well. I am guilty of this before also, but anyone saying these shows did okay is simply saying it because they like the shows. After all the promotion for Christine moving, and all the promotion for the GU premiere CBS executives have to be sick to their stomachs today.
I know CBS got pressured from ABC trying to take the show from them, but why in the world is CBS moving its weakest returning sitcom to anchor a new night.
I think these shows could go up a little next week with no DWTS in the time slot, but they better go up and I mean a lot.
CBS will be patient, i guarantee it. And if both shows get above 2.5 in demos CBS will be happy for now. It's not like BBT or HIMYM are doing much better. |
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quote: Originally posted by pisher:
I know TV doesn't do this anymore, but Knight Rider would have worked better as a series of TV movies.
Jesse Stone. |
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I once asked the question as to why NBC would greenlight KNIGHT RIDER as I believed any high ratings the movie got last year was CURIOSITY FACTOR...and now it has come to pass with the premier numbers.
It really WAS just the curiosity factor...they had ample evidence that it could well be another BIONIC WOMAN where there was curiosity factor in play but it could not sustain itself...at least BIONIC WOMAN held up for a little while before the decline to cancellation.
KNIGHT RIDER is DOA.
GARY...watched it...wasn't horrible but wasn't a watercooler show either.
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quote: Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: I agree. Anyone who thinks these numbers are good aren't grasping the point of CBS comedies. They are supposed to be demo grabbers to offset the older skewing but widely watched CBS dramas. CBS will sacrifice a lower viewership rating to get a demo in the 3's, but they will not settle for comedies that don't deliever in either. Christine getting a 2.1 demo is disasterous. Gary Unmarried will drop second week and will dip below that demo number. I do think that it is a little odd that the same people blasting Worst Week are praising the CBS Wednesday comedy performances. In reality, all three did poorly, but CBS will keep Worst Week above the other two because at least it is delivering an acceptable viewership/demo number right now. The other two aren't. They might as well stick CBS drama repeats on Wednesday. It would do about the same. quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
Anybody who is commenting that the CBS sitcoms did okay, etc. is absolutely kidding themselves. These numbers are horrible. There is no way in the world CBS is keeping on sitcoms getting less than 7 million viewers. Do you really think CBS put these shows on to do less numbers than Kid Nation ? They also skewed so old. With the expense of paying Julia Louis Dreyfus CBS probably lost money last night. They finished last in 4th place, as well. I am guilty of this before also, but anyone saying these shows did okay is simply saying it because they like the shows. After all the promotion for Christine moving, and all the promotion for the GU premiere CBS executives have to be sick to their stomachs today.
I know CBS got pressured from ABC trying to take the show from them, but why in the world is CBS moving its weakest returning sitcom to anchor a new night.
I think these shows could go up a little next week with no DWTS in the time slot, but they better go up and I mean a lot.
It's really foolish to compare Christine and GU with WW. WW had a fantastic lead-in in a usual sitcom night for CBS. Wed. sitcoms are new on CBS. Give them time |
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This was growing buzz about it at the water cooler. At least this water-cooler! quote: Originally posted by robert: quote: Originally posted by Marc Berman: I totally agree, and DSM was getting buzz right before the writer's strike hit. quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj: quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Absolutely nothing surprising about these numbers... except maybe CBS's comedy block not tanking to the degree I expected.
We'll see if ABC can successfully relaunch it's Wednesday next week... the varying degrees of success of that relaunch *is* something I'm interested to see.
I think of the three ABC shows, the one that has the best chance is actually Dirty Sexy Money. Great reviews for the new season. Me thinks it has the chance to grow out of Private Practice in the long run. Lipstick Jungle will likely be toast by next Thursday. Perhaps they should try that on Tuesdays and shorten Biggest Loser to an hour?
Marc, i've heard the same thing on your webcast and i was shocked. Are you sure you don't confuse DSM with another show, maybe with PD. DSM was doing horrible before the break, and there is no chance it'll do better this season. Maybe the first episode will get a bump thanks to PP but it will come down around 6 million again.
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quote: Originally posted by Zedman2: quote: Originally posted by GMYERS:
Knight Rider was just horrible and awful but I can't believe GU outdid Christine.
Criminal Minds and CSI NY did great. CSI NY is back.
People getting ready for Criminal Minds, pre-tune in.
I don't think it was 'pre-tune-in' for Criminal Minds. It was simply the normal HUT rise between 8pm and 8:30pm. On the other hand, word of mouth will likely help Gary Unmarried going forward while this season's 'plot twist' isn't going to help TNAoOC at all. In fact, it may push it down the Drew Carey Show path. |
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quote: Originally posted by WlcmLAPD: I agree. Anyone who thinks these numbers are good aren't grasping the point of CBS comedies. They are supposed to be demo grabbers to offset the older skewing but widely watched CBS dramas. CBS will sacrifice a lower viewership rating to get a demo in the 3's, but they will not settle for comedies that don't deliever in either. Christine getting a 2.1 demo is disasterous. Gary Unmarried will drop second week and will dip below that demo number. I do think that it is a little odd that the same people blasting Worst Week are praising the CBS Wednesday comedy performances. In reality, all three did poorly, but CBS will keep Worst Week above the other two because at least it is delivering an acceptable viewership/demo number right now. The other two aren't. They might as well stick CBS drama repeats on Wednesday. It would do about the same. quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
Anybody who is commenting that the CBS sitcoms did okay, etc. is absolutely kidding themselves. These numbers are horrible. There is no way in the world CBS is keeping on sitcoms getting less than 7 million viewers. Do you really think CBS put these shows on to do less numbers than Kid Nation ? They also skewed so old. With the expense of paying Julia Louis Dreyfus CBS probably lost money last night. They finished last in 4th place, as well. I am guilty of this before also, but anyone saying these shows did okay is simply saying it because they like the shows. After all the promotion for Christine moving, and all the promotion for the GU premiere CBS executives have to be sick to their stomachs today.
I know CBS got pressured from ABC trying to take the show from them, but why in the world is CBS moving its weakest returning sitcom to anchor a new night.
I think these shows could go up a little next week with no DWTS in the time slot, but they better go up and I mean a lot.
I don't know why we are agreeing lately, but I have to agree with my buddy, WlcmLAPD, here. These demos are a disaster. The CBS sitcoms did better demos in summer repeats than these. There is no way CBS moved these shows here to do less demos than Kid Nation did. I do think they will improve next week with DWTS out of the time slot, but it may be too little, too late. I cringe to say it, because I love these shows, but CBS should have moved their young skewing BBT/HIMYM combination here. Those shows have built up a loyal, young following and would certainly deliver better demos than these two. |
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quote: Originally posted by mushu_jj: quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Absolutely nothing surprising about these numbers... except maybe CBS's comedy block not tanking to the degree I expected.
We'll see if ABC can successfully relaunch it's Wednesday next week... the varying degrees of success of that relaunch *is* something I'm interested to see.
I think of the three ABC shows, the one that has the best chance is actually Dirty Sexy Money. Great reviews for the new season. Me thinks it has the chance to grow out of Private Practice in the long run. Lipstick Jungle will likely be toast by next Thursday. Perhaps they should try that on Tuesdays and shorten Biggest Loser to an hour?
DIRTY SEXY MONEY was the biggest waste of an hour of ABC Programming last season. The show was absolute gargage. Why it was given mutliple chances to susceed when the much superior THE NINE was yanked from that time periord in the previous season remains a mystery. |
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