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Originally posted by robert:
Unfortunately they are for repeats also. I still don't understand why Nielsen does that

Yeah it is not really the way to compare series.

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Originally posted by total eclipse:
Slightly OT, seems the futon critic really digs Harper's Island (and that's in addition to the raving review of The Mentalist a few days ago), which could mean good news for us: finally a serialized show that takes place on an island, yet is watchable!
Harper's Island

It looks pretty good, and similar to Twin Peaks. Unfortunately, it is on CBS and will probably get canceled faster than ML.

Good job on the icons. So many good new ones TV-aholic. I'll have to switch some out.

ABC's spin

Quick Take for Thursday, May 29, 2008 (Fast Affiliate Live + Same Day Ratings)

ABC Wins Thursday Night in Total Viewers and Adults 18-49, No. 1 for The 6th Straight Thursday in the Key Adult 18-49 Sales Demographic

Surging from its Lead-in, the "Lost" Season Finale Dominates its Slot and Towers Over its Competitors as Thursday's No. 1 TV Show in Viewers and Young Adults

Despite Airing 8 Days After the End of the TV Season, "Lost" Draws its Biggest Audience in 3 Months and ABC's Top Men Numbers in the Time Period in 5 Months

One of the Season's Most Recorded TV Shows, "Lost" Gains 1.9 Million Viewers And 18% in Adults 18-49 from its Initial Airing through 7 Days of DVR Playback

Thursday Night (8:00-11:00 p.m.)

Boosted by the fourth-season finale of "Lost," ABC won Thursday night in Total Viewers (10.4 million) and Adults 18-49 (4.0/11), registering its 6th straight week as the No. 1 network on Thursday in the key young adult sales demo.

"Lost Repeat Special" (8:00-9:00 p.m.)

Originally telecast two weeks ago (5/15/08), a rebroadcast of Part 1 of the 3-part season finale of "Lost" took second place during the 8 o'clock hour in Total Viewers (6.8 million) and Adults 18-49 (2.1/7). Opposite Fox's original "So You Think You Can Dance," the repeat ABC drama paced well ahead of programming on CBS (4.9 million and 1.5/5) and NBC (3.4 million and 1.3/4) in the hour, despite the fact that NBC carried an original episode of "Last Comic Standing" starting at 8:30 p.m.

"Lost" (9:00-11:00 p.m.)

Jumping from its lead-in by 5.4 million viewers and by 133% in Adults 18-49, the fourth-season finale of "Lost" moved ABC up into a dominant first place during from 9:00-11:00 p.m. and towered above its competitors on the evening as Thursday's No. 1 TV program in Total Viewers (12.2 million) and Adults 18-49 (4.9/13). In fact "Lost" topped the No. 2 Thursday show, Fox's "So You Think You Can Dance" (9.4 million and 3.6/11), by 2.8 million viewers and by 36% in Adults 18-49. In addition, "Lost" won its time period in Adults 18-49 for the 13th consecutive original airing, leading its slot in the key sales demo on every telecast this season. Gaining audience during each half-hour, "Lost" gained 1.0 million viewers (11.7 million to 12.7 million) and grew by 18% in Adults 18-49 (4.5/13 to 5.3/15) from start to finish.

Please Note: One of the most recorded and played back shows on TV, on average this season "Lost" has seen its overall audience grow by 1.9 million viewers and jump 18% in Adults 18-49 from its initial broadcast through 7 days of recorded DVR playback (Differential between Live + Same Day and Live + 7 Day Numbers).

Despite airing 8 days past the end of the official TV Season into summer, "Lost" attracted its largest audience in nearly 3 months since 3/6/08. In addition, "Lost" generated ABC's strongest Men 18-34 (3.7/11) and Men 18-49 (4.5/13) numbers in the 2-hour time period since early February and its highest Men 25-54 rating (5.0/13) since late January since 2/7/08 and 1/31/08, respectively.

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Originally posted by Zitrone:

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Originally posted by Lost_Dom:
I was expecting atleast 13 mil for Lost, but I guess they're still good numbers since they're up 2 mil from the last ep.

Not really, the last episode ratings were:

Lost (ABC)
Viewers: 11.40 million (#2), A18-49: 5.0/14 (#1)

So it actually fell in the demo. The show might drop below 10m next year.

I don't think it will drop below 10 million after that season finale

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

Nice, although some need to be updated.

I think Lost is cooked both in the ratings and the writing.

I thought last nights episode was horrible, and incredibly obvious. I believe I said after last year's finale that the dead person was Locke, and that was supposidly the big mystery. The way the 6 were discovered was also predictable.

And I really hope that season 5 isnt about Jack convincing the 6 to get back, to get back in the finale, and then season 6 will be about them back on the island deciding what they want to happen and realizing that the island is the best place for all of them...

Oh, and for the record last nights "mystery for next season" is predicatable too. Locke becomes curious about how to move the island and decides to do that himself..

So, I am not surprised the ratings werent that great and I think they will keep going down in the last 2 seasons..

Thursday original finals and network averages

SHOW/NET                              HH  A18-49     Viewers  A18-34

ABC                               6.4/11  4.0/11  10,459,000
CBS                                5.0/8   1.9/6   7,359,000
NBC                                2.8/5   1.7/5   4,095,000
FOX                               6.0/10  3.6/11   9,561,000
CW                                 1.1/2   0.6/2   1,692,000   0.5/2

LOST (9pm, 2 hours)               7.3/12  4.9/13  12,303,000

LAST COMIC STANDING (121 minutes)  2.9/5   1.9/5   4,398,000

SO YOU THINK CAN DANCE (2 hours)  6.0/10  3.6/11   9,561,000

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Originally posted by Milcus:
I think Lost is cooked both in the ratings and the writing.

I thought last nights episode was horrible, and incredibly obvious. I believe I said after last year's finale that the dead person was Locke, and that was supposidly the big mystery. The way the 6 were discovered was also predictable.

And I really hope that season 5 isnt about Jack convincing the 6 to get back, to get back in the finale, and then season 6 will be about them back on the island deciding what they want to happen and realizing that the island is the best place for all of them...

Oh, and for the record last nights "mystery for next season" is predicatable too. Locke becomes curious about how to move the island and decides to do that himself..

So, I am not surprised the ratings werent that great and I think they will keep going down in the last 2 seasons..

It's clear the producers were completely empty of ideas since a couple a seasons ago. I mean how ridiculous is this: for 4 years they've kept us guessing how they'll leave the island and now the next 2 years they'll go back to the island for no reason whatsoever. The good thing about last episode was the fact that they basically resolved the whole "mystery" and there is absolutely no reason to come back for the next 2 seasons. I mean who cares if the island is probably an UFO? Cause i guess that's where the show is headed.
They'll be lucky if they get 10 million viewers

Anyone know if Nathan fillion is doing that abc pilot CASTLE? or is he doing another series?

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It's clear the producers were completely empty of ideas since a couple a seasons ago. I mean how ridiculous is this: for 4 years they've kept us guessing how they'll leave the island and now the next 2 years they'll go back to the island for no reason whatsoever. The good thing about last episode was the fact that they basically resolved the whole "mystery" and there is absolutely no reason to come back for the next 2 seasons. I mean who cares if the island is probably an UFO? Cause i guess that's where the show is headed.
They'll be lucky if they get 10 million viewers

How so? The writers of Lost have been brave to turn the series completely on it's head, which is what they did in the third season finale. And they did it fantastically. Some bitter, bitter people on this thread. It's not Lost's fault that your series aren't as good. And yes, I know, I'll get the BSG spiel. I like BSG. But to call Lost boring and BSG exciting? The entire point of BSG since the inception of the series has been to get to earth, something that they STILL have not done. BSG's equivalent of Lost would be the ship arriving to earth, only to realize that they have to go back. Unfortunately, BSG is much too plodding for that.

Lost's ratings were fairly stable compared to last seasons (minus the first 6), so the ratings aren't something to worry about. And what it's lost in the overnights compared to last season it's made up in DVR viewers. And that will only increase next season.

Lost is incredible in that it's as much buzzed about now as it was in it's inaugural season. How many dramas can claim that? None in the current context. As for the CSI Miami comparison above, writing those two series in the same sentence is sacriledge. CSI Miami is quite possibly the worst series on the air right now, and I've watched about 10 episodes this season. As for its ratings, do you think for a minute that CBS wouldn't trade it's half of its critically ignored series for the rights to Lost? Of course it would; you can't buy buzz like Lost has.

Regarding the finale ratings, they're pretty much what I expected. ABC really doesn't know what to do with Lost, and that's been particularly evident over the past two seasons with it airing in 4 different timeslots on two nights. And now, airing the finale a week after the tv season ended? Come on ABC, get your act together. Any other network would build a night around Lost, but you toss it around like garbage. No wonder it's lost audience: viewers have no idea when it's airing. The one good thing ABC did do this season was air pop-up repeats. They were actually quite entertaining.

In regards to Lost, if something thinks the show has no where to go, they didn't watch last night's finale. I'm more confused than ever and that's a good thing. Shortened final seasons will be a good way to keep fans interested. I do agree though with fans and ABC's treatment, but hey, at least the show gets promotion. I think it should air Wed. at 9 next January and that PP and DSM can share the 10pm hour. PD can share the 8pm hour with a new drama.

Hello, i have been following this forum with interest for a while now, but only just got a round to signing up to it. it seems to me, that with Lost there is a lot of misinformation surroundings its viewership, especially when it comes to DVR numbers. Thus I have taken the time to trawl few a few websites and compile a list of how it has peformed across its 4th season. While I am a fan of the show, I am not trying to present this information in a negative or positive light. These are just the cold hard numbers.

Live + Same day: (viewers in millions)

(Airing Thursday at 9pm)

31/1: 16.14
7/2: 15.06* overnight number rather than final
14/2: 13.76
21/2: 13.65
28/2 12.89
6/3: 13.01
13/3: 12.08
20/3: 11.46

(Airing thurdays at 10pm)

24/4: 12.08
1/5: 10.73
8/5: 10.78
15/5: 10.96
29/5: 12.30


Adults 18-49:

(airing thursday at 9pm)

31/1: 6.7
7/2: 6.4
14/2: 5.8
21/2: 5.7
28/2 5.4
6/3: 5.4
13/3: 4.9
20/3: 4.6

(Airing thurdays at 10pm)

24/4: 5.3
1/5: 4.7
8/5: 4.7
15/5: 4.9
29/5: 4.9


Live + 7: (viewers in millions)

(Airing thurday at 9pm)

31/1: 17.77
7/2: 16.95
14/2: 15.65
21/2: 15.43
28/2 14.99
6/3: 14.93
13/3: 13.84
20/3: 13.39

(Airing thurdays at 10pm)

24/4: 14.07
1/5: 12.95
8/5: 13.00
15/5: Not yet available
29/5: Not yet available


Season Averages:

Live + Same day: 12.68
18-49: 5.3
Live + 7: 14.81* based on 11 eps

Based on the Live + 7 data for the season so far, the finale should have Live + 7 ratings of somewhere in the region of 15.3 million


For comparison:

Season 3 average veiwers: 14.6 million

Season 3 average for 16 consecutive spring episodes airing Feb-May 2007: 12.58

Unfortunately I can't find any data for Live + 7 days for the episodes that aired last year.

Hope all this proves useful.

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I was really hoping the CW already ceased to exist.
Why that horrid network is still alive?