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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville:
I've said it before but American Idol isn't a cure all. If there isn't an audience before, there won't be one after.

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Originally posted by TravisYanan:

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Originally posted by mayorofsmpleton:
What saves Dirty Sexy Money from being a loser is better retention. Big Shots is doing only slightly better, but with a much stronger lead-in series. People just forget to turn off the TV after Grey's, with DSM more people are apparently choosing to watch it.

I still think DSM's numbers are disappointing given the promotional campaign it received (its numbers will decrease this week in finals, Private Practice ran 2 minutes long).

And it baffles the mind as to why you schedule a show in prime real estate like Big Shots out of Grey's Anatomy and don't push it in a big way to make people aware of it. They did the same thing with Six Degrees last year. It makes no sense! Especially in a DVR world where you can by and large avoid on-air promos and have to actively choose to record something.

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Originally posted by AL:
You hit it right on. My kids are 6 and 8 and they enjoy the show. They would be very upset if the show is cancelled.

Personally it is very very boring to me. I read a magazine and pretend I am watching. When they look over at me I must quickly glance at the TV.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Here is something to think about.

Top 10 show for the week ending October 8, 1989

 
Rank   Program             Net          Viewers
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 1.    Roseanne            ABC         43.5 million 
 2.    Cosby Show          NBC         35.6 million
 3.    The Wonder Years    ABC         34.5 million
 4.    Whos the Boss       ABC         30.1 million
 5.    NBC Monday Movie    NBC         29.7 million
 6.    Chicken Soup        ABC         27.7 million
 7.    MNF                 ABC         27.2 million
 8.    Murder, She Wrote   CBS         26.2 million
 9.    Growing Pains       ABC         25.8 million
10.    Head of the Class   ABC         25.5 million

Lowest rated, Non-FOX, scripted program that week....
Mr. Belvedere on ABC (#68) had 13.6 million viewers, on a Saturday night, at 8pm (ET).

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by starbase135:
Regarding DOND: Winning it's timeslot al season? Against American Idol???

I forgot about Idol Wednesdays. I guess DoND will have to settle for 2nd place then, if Idol does indeed return to Wednesday rather than FOX plunging into Thursday with it.

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Originally posted by pisher:

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I'm all for criticizing the CSIs and L&Os and the clones of those. Please, go ahead.

But I think people are complaining just as much about aspects of the show they don't like - and they should be allowed to - as they are complaining about the mentality that disliking the critically acclaimed show is sacrilege (I, for one, find the narration grating... it's a lazy writing technique, no matter how specific, loquacious, or to-the-second-of-death the narrator is).

Just because something is different doesn't mean it's good (or bad). This particular brand of different isn't to some people's tastes, apparently, and they get increasingly vocal about their dislikes when they are being called out as narrow-minded or whatever simply because they don't like it.

In short, and for allegorical example, being white and not liking a particular black person doesn't make you a racist or white supremacist or something. It means you don't like that person.

Travis, I am deeply moved.

You have perfectly summed up the thoughts and feelings of everyone who ever hated Veronica Mars.

I feel so very close to you now.

No, not in that way.

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Originally posted by dumont:
I'm still waiting for the Alphabet to burn off those final four unaired episodes of "Chicken Soup" which was, by the way, hilarious.

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Originally posted by dumont:

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Originally posted by lopez:
Kudos for ABC for taking risks on Wednesdays.

They're winning now Mondays, Wednesdays, Thurdsdays and Sundays on 18-49.

Plus, ABC won one of the first two Saturdays, and should win most of those nights through the fall until college football ends.

So ABC is now dominant on five nights of the week.

Where is CBS dominant anymore?

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Originally posted by tvfan300:
I'm also one that didn't care for it..and that voiceover drove me nuts. But once it got the Dumont seal of approval, well, that was a kiss of death.

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Originally posted by lakers247:

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Different? Isn't it just a detective show in which the dead victims get interviewed? Oh, and lots of cutesy over-producing?

And that gets beyond irritating. I watched the premiere before the second episode started. So I immediately watched the episode and was bored beyond belief. I don't see how this show will last.

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Originally posted by lost_fan:
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/us_law/etn/primetime/award.asp

Human Rights First has nominated these 5 tv shows for realistic portrayal of torture on tv (not kidding)

LOST
The Shield
The Closer
Boston Legal
Criminal Minds

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Originally posted by starbase135:
Isn't there the rumour that Lost is set to return on Monday?

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Originally posted by Texas Bound:
Just a little comparison and food for thought on Gossip Girl:

Week   Total   18-49
1      3.50    1.6/4    
2      2.48    1.1/3
3      2.75    1.2/3
4      2.87    1.3/3

So even though the large drop after the premier, it has trended up each week in both total viewers and demo. And with the reported high volume online viewer in addition to high level sales on iTunes, I can start to see where they are coming from. Even more so if they are really getting high 12-24 female demos they like to have.

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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville:
Whether it's true or not, I think Jericho has the general perception of being a "loser" or "underachiever". Whenever you go to boards, the general feeling is why is Jericho still on? There's no buzz for it coming back. CBS isn't going to heavily promote it. It's going to fill a spot and then come off it as quickly as it came. FNL is in the same position as Jericho but at least it has the media backing it. Even with that, FNL hasn't had exceptional numbers, just good enough to stay afloat on Fridays.

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Originally posted by tvfan300:
Wow. How times have changed. Top 4 all sitcoms. Thanks for posting.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Here is something to think about.

Top 10 show for the week ending October 8, 1989

 
Rank   Program             Net          Viewers
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 1.    Roseanne            ABC         43.5 million 
 2.    Cosby Show          NBC         35.6 million
 3.    The Wonder Years    ABC         34.5 million
 4.    Whos the Boss       ABC         30.1 million
 5.    NBC Monday Movie    NBC         29.7 million
 6.    Chicken Soup        ABC         27.7 million
 7.    MNF                 ABC         27.2 million
 8.    Murder, She Wrote   CBS         26.2 million
 9.    Growing Pains       ABC         25.8 million
10.    Head of the Class   ABC         25.5 million

Lowest rated, Non-FOX, scripted program that week....
Mr. Belvedere on ABC (#68) had 13.6 million viewers, on a Saturday night, at 8pm (ET).