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Originally posted by vlis:
name that tune

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Originally posted by robert:
There are 7-8 shows on CBS that do better (in viewers) than Lost

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Originally posted by Hawk-eye:
I'd be stunned if Lost could do an episode for 2.5 million. If you are correct ok, but just the cost of the cast (which I'm sure the Hawaii isn't paying for ) would seem to eat up a sizable portion of that. Also, i can't imagine the insurancw costs on a show like Lost.

Anyways,whatever, the show will be on unti its conclusion regardless.

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by vlis:
never mind; just remebered they all start of "csi"

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Originally posted by vlis:
name that tune

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Originally posted by robert:
There are 7-8 shows on CBS that do better (in viewers) than Lost

So? Godd for CBS that they can produce 3 similar shows and still get great numbers. Poor Lost is dong so-so now, think how "weel" a Lost spin-off would do

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
- CSI
- CSI: Miami
- Survivor
- NCIS
- Criminal Minds
- CSI: NY
- WAT
- 2.5 Men (may be about even)

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Originally posted by vlis:
name that tune

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Originally posted by robert:
There are 7-8 shows on CBS that do better (in viewers) than Lost

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by vlis:
never mind; just remebered they all start of "csi"

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Originally posted by vlis:
name that tune

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Originally posted by robert:
There are 7-8 shows on CBS that do better (in viewers) than Lost

So? Godd for CBS that they can produce 3 similar shows and still get great numbers. Poor Lost is dong so-so now, think how "weel" a Lost spin-off would do

What? I agree Lost's numbers are down but the show continues to do well week after week. Give it up already would ya? It grows out of its lead in by 7 million every week. Just because Lost hasn't sprung off 2 copycat nearly identical spinoffs doesn't make it a loser. I think spinning of the CSIs was a major waste of resources and just increased the amount of procedurals for CBS. Sure they pull pretty good numbers, but there's no originality there. Same with the Private Practice spinoff, which as much as I've enjoyed, its really just a knock off too. Lost is one of the most mind-boggling shows on all of network TV. Great suspense to it. If you don't like it, that's fine. Don't watch it, but don't say because a show hasn't had a spinoff that it isn't doing well.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I did forget to mention Survivor before hand. By this time next year though, Survivor will probably be struggling for 12 million a week. That show has been on a downhill slide for the past 5 years or so.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
You could be right but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Getting back on the air quick will help the CBS shows but I think damage has been done during this strike to them and TV in general. I'm expecting drops. Hope not, even for those shows I don't care about (basically the shows we're talking about, but am not being overly optimistic.

I think what will hurt from the strike most will be the smaller Demo numbers for all nets. The 18-30, no children, crowd, will have left Network TV (except for FOX) and found other shows on CABLE. Those viewers may be the ones lost for a while, if not forever.

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Originally posted by robert:

Firstly i think CSIM is actually more original than Lost which was a Survivor rip-off in the begining. Secondly 12-13 million is , no matter how you try to spin it, far from great for one of the most hyped shows i can remember

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Firstly i think CSIM is actually more original than Lost

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by vlis:
never mind; just remebered they all start of "csi"

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Originally posted by vlis:
name that tune

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Originally posted by robert:
There are 7-8 shows on CBS that do better (in viewers) than Lost

So? Godd for CBS that they can produce 3 similar shows and still get great numbers. Poor Lost is dong so-so now, think how "weel" a Lost spin-off would do

What? I agree Lost's numbers are down but the show continues to do well week after week. Give it up already would ya? It grows out of its lead in by 7 million every week. Just because Lost hasn't sprung off 2 copycat nearly identical spinoffs doesn't make it a loser. I think spinning of the CSIs was a major waste of resources and just increased the amount of procedurals for CBS. Sure they pull pretty good numbers, but there's no originality there. Same with the Private Practice spinoff, which as much as I've enjoyed, its really just a knock off too. Lost is one of the most mind-boggling shows on all of network TV. Great suspense to it. If you don't like it, that's fine. Don't watch it, but don't say because a show hasn't had a spinoff that it isn't doing well.

Firstly i think CSIM is actually more original than Lost which was a Survivor rip-off in the begining. Secondly 12-13 million is , no matter how you try to spin it, far from great for one of the most hyped shows i can remember

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Originally posted by lopez:

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Originally posted by robert:

Firstly i think CSIM is actually more original than Lost which was a Survivor rip-off in the begining. Secondly 12-13 million is , no matter how you try to spin it, far from great for one of the most hyped shows i can remember

Just like CSI was averaging 26 millions three seasons ago

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I did forget to mention Survivor before hand. By this time next year though, Survivor will probably be struggling for 12 million a week. That show has been on a downhill slide for the past 5 years or so.

It will be interesting to see if there is any Stike effect on Survivor once new episodes of CSI return on April 3rd. If Survivor all of a sudden is back to 14-14.5 million, we'll know. If it stays in the 13 million range, it just slowly sliding down.

To bad though, this season has been pretty good to watch. very Enjoyable.

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Originally posted by robert:
But Lost and CM for example are not shows in danger of cancelation. Then why is everyone insisting that Lost is more succesfull than a show that is watched by more viewers. That's what bother me and i'll never agree with that.
We can also talk about demos, i don't have something against that, but i'm tired of everyone justifing Lost's numbers by the fact that it has good demos. OK so it brings more money to ABC. Why do you care about that? Do you recieve part of that money?

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Originally posted by lost_fan:

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Originally posted by robert:
But Lost and CM for example are not shows in danger of cancelation. Then why is everyone insisting that Lost is more succesfull than a show that is watched by more viewers. That's what bother me and i'll never agree with that.
We can also talk about demos, i don't have something against that, but i'm tired of everyone justifing Lost's numbers by the fact that it has good demos. OK so it brings more money to ABC. Why do you care about that? Do you recieve part of that money?

When you are making claims like 'ABC is not happy with the show' people will make counter arguments highlighting its financial power a large section of which stems from its performance among the 18-49s. If you don't want to talk about then you should not be making that argument in the first place. Lost is clearly a more successful show because Lost probably generates more money then CM through DVD and merchandise sales and licensing alone without even counting the ad $ (in which case lost also outperforms CM by more then 2to1)