IMO losing Smackdown is not such a big deal for CW. If it wants to survive it needs way more than those 4 million viewers.

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Originally posted by Justin:
I don't know if this bugs anyone else, but NBC's logo is really bugging me. Not the peacock, but the words above it. They have so many words in such little font that I can't even read it anymore. Clearly the logo promotions don't help at all. All it does is block more of the screen and makes people mad. Kudos to CBS and Fox for being the only networks not stupid enough to do this.

Not quite. This Monday, during HIMYM and 2.5 Men, they had a little bug after coming back from commercial break in the lower-left corner promoting the next show, which stayed on the screen for at least a few minutes. Thus, you had pretty much the entire bottom row covered (of course, it was transparent, so it wasn't too bad).

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Originally posted by robert:
IMO losing Smackdown is not such a big deal for CW. If it wants to survive it needs way more than those 4 million viewers.

Considering the fact that its their highest rated show, its a major deal. Their weakly weekly averages will go down considerably, especially during the summer when its the highest rated show on the network.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by robert:
IMO losing Smackdown is not such a big deal for CW. If it wants to survive it needs way more than those 4 million viewers.

Considering the fact that its their highest rated show, its a major deal. Their weakly weekly averages will go down considerably, especially during the summer when its the highest rated show on the network.

Well i don't think CW could've survived only on the Smackdown's performence. They're needing breakthrough shows with or without Smackdown on their schedule

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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Smackdown would be a "big get" for MNTV, and seems a better fit with MNTV's other programming (they still have that IFC thing, right?) than it was with CW.

They still have IFL as well as a couple of other similar demo shows: Jail and Street Patrol. They even have that NFL show, though all it did was prove that people won't watch a sports program if there a 100 just like it on more sports oriented networks.

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Originally posted by robert:
Well i don't think CW could've survived only on the Smackdown's performence. They're needing breakthrough shows with or without Smackdown on their schedule

CW never could have moved to profitability with low income shows like Smackdown, but it was a good schedule filler to keep 2 hours of the week busy without any development costs. Now, they will have to fork out money to fill those 2 hours; which leaves less money to develop the rest of the schedule.

Long term, CW has to start spending more money before they can ever hope to make money. Hopefully, the fact that they chose not to spend that money on Smackdown is a sign that they know they need better payoff than that show could ever have offered.

In the demographic, I think AGE SHOULDN'T MATTER and I think it should be how many points in the demo and households and viewers do you get.

P.S. you can't dump the target demo coz the advertisers based their interest on that net.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by robert:
Well i don't think CW could've survived only on the Smackdown's performence. They're needing breakthrough shows with or without Smackdown on their schedule

CW never could have moved to profitability with low income shows like Smackdown, but it was a good schedule filler to keep 2 hours of the week busy without any development costs. Now, they will have to fork out money to fill those 2 hours; which leaves less money to develop the rest of the schedule.

Long term, CW has to start spending more money before they can ever hope to make money. Hopefully, the fact that they chose not to spend that money on Smackdown is a sign that they know they need better payoff than that show could ever have offered.

And The CW is also predicted to lose about $50 million this year.

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Originally posted by Josh_Kane:
In the demographic, I think AGE SHOULDN'T MATTER

You are aware that Smackdown was not a strong demo pull, right? It had a very good viewer number for CW, but its demo number was much less robust.

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Originally posted by Josh_Kane:
And The CW is also predicted to lose about $50 million this year.

A number so small as to be almost meaningless to CBS/Time Warner.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by robert:
IMO losing Smackdown is not such a big deal for CW. If it wants to survive it needs way more than those 4 million viewers.

Considering the fact that its their highest rated show, its a major deal. Their weakly weekly averages will go down considerably, especially during the summer when its the highest rated show on the network.

According to the LA Times, the scheduled episode for Smackdwon on The CW will be Sept 12/08.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by Josh_Kane:
In the demographic, I think AGE SHOULDN'T MATTER

You are aware that Smackdown was not a strong demo pull, right? It had a very good viewer number for CW, but its demo number was much less robust.

I agree coz its Friday night and FOX used to be on the bottom at fifth before putting House and Bones repeats on the line up.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by Josh_Kane:
And The CW is also predicted to lose about $50 million this year.

A number so small as to be almost meaningless to CBS/Time Warner.

Yeah but still all the struggling shows produced like "Life Is Wild" was just wasted and to think the season finale or can be the series premiere episode was aired during the SuperBowl... The CW must be insane... but I believe CW's viewers may be minuscule but during the SuperBowl XLII, CW's viewers just maintained at 735,000 (usual #).

The strike is over!

SUNDAY 12:30 PM: At the WGA's news conference today, union leaders declared the new contract is "a huge victory for us". Trumpeted WGAW President Patric Verrone, "This is the first time we actually got a better deal in a new media than previously." Verrone credited News Corp. No. 2 Peter Chernin and Disney chief Bob Iger, and also CBS boss Les Moonves, with "being instrumental in making this deal happen" after the WGA spent 3 months "getting nowhere" with the AMPTP negotiators and lawyers. WGA negotiating committee chief John Bowman added that, "What happened to the Golden Globes was instrumental in getting the CEOs to this table. It was a huge symbol."

Verrone said it was "heartbreaking for me personally" to drop the WGA's demands relating to reality and animation (Verrone is an animation writer) "But it was more important that we make a deal that benefitted the membership and the town as a whole and got people back to work." Verrone stated that "The legacy of the '88 strike was the ability of the companies to develop content without writers and creators. The legacy of this strike will be the ability of writers and creators to develop content without the companies. We are making deals, and we will continue to make deals, with Google, Yahoo, and others beyond just the 7 conglomerates."

The leaders confirmed that WGA members would have 48 hours to call off the strike and 10 days to accept the newly negotiated contract.

But Verrone said TV showrunners (who have producing duties in addition to writing duties on TV series) would be allowed to go back to work Monday before the 48-hour notice vote by members is conducted. This no doubt solves the dilemma that the moguls made the deal negotiated with the WGA contingent on having the writers go back to work immediately.

The Writers Guild East Council and Writers Guild West Board voted to approve the contract and sent it to membership for a ratification vote, which will be conducted via mail ballot and at special meetings conducted on a date to be determined. In addition, the Council and Board also voted to lift the restraining order (strike) upon the majority vote of the membership, casting ballots in a vote to be conducted Tuesday, February 12th.

Variety reports that industry sources say the WGA contract reached with the majors "includes a provision that will allow scribes who were force majeuered from ongoing series to return to their old jobs. The contract does not address those who were force majeured from overall deals and other contracts if they were not working on a series that will resume production." I can also report that the Screen Actors Guild, whose contract expires in June, has not set a date yet when it will start negotiating with the moguls.

Very GOOD NEWS! The Strike is OVER... Finally I can see more episodes of LOST and Smallville but there are chances that LOST's 16 episode-run and Smallville's 22 (not sure if 22 or 25)can't be completed and other shows' episodes as well!