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Marc asked me to fill in for him on the winners and losers. This is what he would have done:

-Yesterday's Winners:
NCIS (CBS) (It's underrated. And so what, so it had only a 1.9 demo rating, it's still a winner in my book!)
Big Brother (CBS) (It improved on it's lead in the demo!)
Jericho (CBS) (Ummmm, it grew in the half hour! Plus, it fits like a glove out of Big Brother!)
American Idol (FOX)
Dancing With the Stars (ABC)

-Yesterday's Losers:
Biggest Loser (NBC) (It should have done better against American Idol and Dancing With the Stars!)
Law and Order: SVU (NBC) (I know I usually don't include repeats in the losers but I just can't help myself! This show should have done better !)
Just for Laughs (ABC)
Miss Guided (ABC) (This is not my kind of show and it lost a huge portion of the Dancing With the Stars audience, so it's a loser!)

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Man, you're just begging for it, aren't ya?
 
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It's just that people who watch it are smart enough to operate a VCR. Nina Tassler herself addressed this when we were talking about this over on the CBS Jericho forums. It's very difficult for any good show to compete in the current environment of network television. The only people left watching live TV are those who will just watch whatever is on because it's easy and don't care if a show is interrupted by a phone call.
By your own definitions, the vast majority opf Jericho fans are too stupid to operate a VCR and just watch Jericho because it is on.

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You should have a gut check when a show like "My Nanny is Better Than Your Nanny" is doing about as well as a show about nuclear war. You know something might not quite be right with the rating system. No one would actually pay to see the nanny show.
You know something might not quite be right with the world when anyone would actually pay to see a nuclear war.
 
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The problem with Jericho is that it's just too good for its own good. People DVR it instead of watch it live.


Right, except even with most of the network shows still in reruns, Jericho can't make the top 10 DVRed shows and gains less than 1 million viewers. Big Brother gets more DVR viewers than Jericho.
 
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Miss/Guided's ratings don't give much hope for its burn-off...I mean, regular time slot on Thursdays.
 
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Big Brother gets more DVR viewers than Jericho.
By the definition given, that would mean that Big Brother viewers are smarter than Jericho viewers.
 
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Originally posted by Holly:
Big Brother gets more DVR viewers than Jericho.
By the definition given, that would mean that Big Brother viewers are smarter than Jericho viewers.


A very disturbing thought...
 
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Man, you're just begging for it, aren't ya?


Me? Begging for what?
 
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Me? Begging for what?

It was pretty good, but you should have mentioned NCIS is underrated.


 
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What is with the 'Just say no to Reality TV' logo? Same person that put 'Moment of Truth' on your viewing list for tonight, right? Maybe your problem is that with 4 different reality TV offerings on, you pick the most repulsive one, watch it, then claim Reality TV sucks. Tune in to Survivor or ANTM instead and feed yourself some quality Reality TV.
 
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The problem with Jericho is that it's just too good for its own good.


No, the problem is that it's the Poor & Xenophobic Man's Lost, and always was.

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People DVR it instead of watch it live.


Clearly not that many people DVR it, and I bet a lot of people who do never end up watching it.

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It was CBS's number one show online.


Isn't that a little like being the Republican Party's leading intellectual figure? Bu-bye, Bill Buckley. Smiler

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I just would like to point that out to people who think it's not popular. It is.


Right--compared to anything on CW. Except that if CW picked it up, it'd be lucky to do better than Aliens in America. Big Grin

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It's just that people who watch it are smart enough to operate a VCR.


But not smart enough to know that's a dying technology?

I mean, geez--I was programming my parents' betamax in the 80's. I just finished reading the new translation of War and Peace. I'm a big fan of The Wire, and found its storylines easy as pie to follow.

So kinda weird that I think Jericho is a simpleminded piece of crap. Kinda undermines your thesis just a mite. Big Grin

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Nina Tassler herself addressed this when we were talking about this over on the CBS Jericho forums. It's very difficult for any good show to compete in the current environment of network television.


It always has been. And even so, there are plenty of better shows than Jericho on the air, many of them doing just fine.

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The only people left watching live TV are those who will just watch whatever is on because it's easy and don't care if a show is interrupted by a phone call. So, ironically, the good shows get cancelled now.


This is such a load of bull. EVERYBODY watching television is choosing to do that instead of reading a great book, or doing something of genuine importance. You make watching a bad Lost ripoff sound like an act of defiance of the status quo, instead of the limp and passive non-action it truly is.

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CBS has to make money.


Not all the time, or they'd have never brought Jericho back. Big Grin

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Even though they know it's actually more popular, there's just no mechanism for them to make money.


If Jericho was on HBO, it'd be lucky to get John From Cincinnati ratings.

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The situation was similar to Monday Night Football.


Another show Americans aren't smart enough to follow? I must admit, I've always found the story arcs very confusing. Big Grin

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ABC has a lot more viewers, but they switched it to ESPN because people pay for cable. It's in the odd situation of having less viewers but making more money. CBS has done a great job with the show, and a lot of the executives like the show and want to keep it going, but they can't if it's not making money, even though they know it would do well if people had to actually pay for what they watched.


Confused

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You should have a gut check when a show like "My Nanny is Better Than Your Nanny" is doing about as well as a show about nuclear war.


Right--a show about a nuclear war that somehow leaves people in a small American town walking around, eating in restaurants, and basically living the same life they did before, only with the occasional riot, or invasion, or idiotic subplot about how THE BLACK GUY is up to no good.

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You know something might not quite be right with the rating system. No one would actually pay to see the nanny show.


I'd pay NOT to see Jericho.

You had your little moment of faux-vindication. Now it's over. So's Jericho. Time for Joshua to blow that horn. Put the bland vanilla townspeople to the sword. Sow the ground with salt. THE END.

Big Grin
 
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Me? Begging for what?

It was pretty good, but you should have mentioned NCIS is underrated.


Very good point! Very good! Wink
 
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What is with the 'Just say no to Reality TV' logo? Same person that put 'Moment of Truth' on your viewing list for tonight, right? Maybe your problem is that with 4 different reality TV offerings on, you pick the most repulsive one, watch it, then claim Reality TV sucks. Tune in to Survivor or ANTM instead and feed yourself some quality Reality TV.


ANTM is quality Reality TV?
 
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
What is with the 'Just say no to Reality TV' logo? Same person that put 'Moment of Truth' on your viewing list for tonight, right? Maybe your problem is that with 4 different reality TV offerings on, you pick the most repulsive one, watch it, then claim Reality TV sucks. Tune in to Survivor or ANTM instead and feed yourself some quality Reality TV.


I don't consider Moment of Truth a reality show. It is a game show. And I will admit it is a trashy show. But the pickings are so slim lately, than I have been watching that.

I have watched Survivor for almost all of its seasons, and I planned on watching this season too. But unfortunately I had DVR'd the 1st 3 episodes, did not have a chance to watch them, and then my DVR broke and I had to get a replacement. So I have not watched this season.
 
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Me? Begging for what?

It was pretty good, but you should have mentioned NCIS is underrated.


Very good point! Very good! Wink


It was pretty funny, but I don't think Marc will appreciate it.
 
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