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Originally posted by Chimera:

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Originally posted by Holly:
Cantebury's Law moving to Friday, New Amsterdamn will now have House reruns as a lead-in.

Good news for NA.

Wow, we were just talking about such a move on here. This makes sense.

Actually what would have made more sense would have been to just cancel CL. If the numbers were as weak as they were on a Monday, just wait what the show pulls in on a Friday.

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Commander in chief is a prime example of a network that really wants to kill a show when they want to. They banish it to Thursdays, pre-grey's anatomy on Thursdays and say its the ratings. If they wanted to bring back a show, it can -- it brought back ratings dud -- Notes from the underbelly for some odd reason. There is nothing like network support. Some shows and some networks will be willing to let a show grow and this was a clear example that they really didn't want to deal with this show, even though it could have easily rebounded.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CBS should have just picked up Commander in Chief last year.

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Originally posted by robert:
Here comes CBS with another procedural

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Bl...Taps-Geena/800035782

I already like the idea

CIC was one of the worst shows i've ever tried to watch

The middle 10 episodes were bad. The beginning and ending episodes were great. I'm assuming you saw the middle episodes unless you have some reason for hating what was a really great concept, just not a very well executed plan. CiC is a great example of what happens when chimps are in charge of your network.

I would have to agree that the downfall of Commander in Chief, from most-watched new show to getting cancelled in the span of a few months was the most blatant example of ABC execs tinkering too much with a show. They fired its creator and director because he would occasionally turn in shows late, and the result was the show lost its vision and direction: the shows were on time, but weren't nearly as good. Then they moved it, then burned it off in the summer. Quite a downfall for a show that premiered with over 16 million viewers in a timeslot (Tuesdays @ 9pm) that would have made a perfect companion for the DWTS: Results show -- a very similar demographic.

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Originally posted by Holly:
Cantebury's Law moving to Friday, New Amsterdamn will now have House reruns as a lead-in.

Good news for NA.

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Originally posted by Zedman2:

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
Commander in chief is a prime example of a network that really wants to kill a show when they want to. They banish it to Thursdays, pre-grey's anatomy on Thursdays and say its the ratings. If they wanted to bring back a show, it can -- it brought back ratings dud -- Notes from the underbelly for some odd reason. There is nothing like network support. Some shows and some networks will be willing to let a show grow and this was a clear example that they really didn't want to deal with this show, even though it could have easily rebounded.

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Originally posted by Chimera:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by robert:

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CBS should have just picked up Commander in Chief last year.

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Originally posted by robert:
Here comes CBS with another procedural

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Bl...Taps-Geena/800035782

I already like the idea

CIC was one of the worst shows i've ever tried to watch

The middle 10 episodes were bad. The beginning and ending episodes were great. I'm assuming you saw the middle episodes unless you have some reason for hating what was a really great concept, just not a very well executed plan. CiC is a great example of what happens when chimps are in charge of your network.

I would have to agree that the downfall of Commander in Chief, from most-watched new show to getting cancelled in the span of a few months was the most blatant example of ABC execs tinkering too much with a show. They fired its creator and director because he would occasionally turn in shows late, and the result was the show lost its vision and direction: the shows were on time, but weren't nearly as good. Then they moved it, then burned it off in the summer. Quite a downfall for a show that premiered with over 16 million viewers in a timeslot (Tuesdays @ 9pm) that would have made a perfect companion for the DWTS: Results show -- a very similar demographic.

I don't think GA even aired on Thursday's when CIC moved to Thursday?

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I would have to agree that the downfall of Commander in Chief, from most-watched new show to getting cancelled in the span of a few months was the most blatant example of ABC execs tinkering too much with a show. They fired its creator and director because he would occasionally turn in shows late, and the result was the show lost its vision and direction: the shows were on time, but weren't nearly as good. Then they moved it, then burned it off in the summer. Quite a downfall for a show that premiered with over 16 million viewers in a timeslot (Tuesdays @ 9pm) that would have made a perfect companion for the DWTS: Results show -- a very similar demographic.

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I don't think GA even aired on Thursday's when CIC moved to Thursday?

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Oh, no, this was pre-Grey's to Thursday, at a time when Thursday (the entire night) was a death assignment for ABC shows.

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Originally posted by vlis:
why is that Marc? Most of the people here commented that they liked what they saw. Who knows, maybe it will get some LOST pre-tune in tonite

If nothing else, it is great counterprogramming for the CBS basketball marathon and keeps the timeslot warm for ABC's female skew.

Speaking of ABC's female skew, according to this Hollywood Reporter Article, ABC was unsuccessful in convincing Lifetime network to take over October Road or Men in Trees.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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why is that Marc? Most of the people here commented that they liked what they saw. Who knows, maybe it will get some LOST pre-tune in tonite

If nothing else, it is great counterprogramming for the CBS basketball marathon and keeps the timeslot warm for ABC's female skew.

Speaking of ABC's female skew, according to this Hollywood Reporter Article, ABC was unsuccessful in convincing Lifetime network to take over October Road or Men in Trees.

Thanks for sharing, too bad about Lifetime not picking up October Road. I still hope that they CW might still give it a shot next fall, at this point what do they have to loss.

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Despite a save-the-show campaign launched by "Road" fans, the fate of the offbeat drama seems pretty much sealed at ABC. Meanwhile, "Trees" has a shot at coming back as it's said to enjoy solid support at the network.

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Originally posted by silver_rainbow:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by vlis:
why is that Marc? Most of the people here commented that they liked what they saw. Who knows, maybe it will get some LOST pre-tune in tonite

If nothing else, it is great counterprogramming for the CBS basketball marathon and keeps the timeslot warm for ABC's female skew.

Speaking of ABC's female skew, according to this Hollywood Reporter Article, ABC was unsuccessful in convincing Lifetime network to take over October Road or Men in Trees.

Thanks for sharing, too bad about Lifetime not picking up October Road. I still hope that they CW might still give it a shot next fall, at this point what do they have to loss.

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Despite a save-the-show campaign launched by "Road" fans, the fate of the offbeat drama seems pretty much sealed at ABC. Meanwhile, "Trees" has a shot at coming back as it's said to enjoy solid support at the network.

I can't believe ABC is still considering bringing MIT back -- there is no category of data to support that. It loses a good chunk of viewers from Supernanny and it has been extremely poor in the demo (1.7 I believe).

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Despite a save-the-show campaign launched by "Road" fans, the fate of the offbeat drama seems pretty much sealed at ABC. Meanwhile, "Trees" has a shot at coming back as it's said to enjoy solid support at the network.

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Originally posted by Holly:

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Originally posted by Chimera:

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Originally posted by silver_rainbow:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by vlis:
why is that Marc? Most of the people here commented that they liked what they saw. Who knows, maybe it will get some LOST pre-tune in tonite

If nothing else, it is great counterprogramming for the CBS basketball marathon and keeps the timeslot warm for ABC's female skew.

Speaking of ABC's female skew, according to this Hollywood Reporter Article, ABC was unsuccessful in convincing Lifetime network to take over October Road or Men in Trees.

Thanks for sharing, too bad about Lifetime not picking up October Road. I still hope that they CW might still give it a shot next fall, at this point what do they have to loss.

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Despite a save-the-show campaign launched by "Road" fans, the fate of the offbeat drama seems pretty much sealed at ABC. Meanwhile, "Trees" has a shot at coming back as it's said to enjoy solid support at the network.

I can't believe ABC is still considering bringing MIT back -- there is no category of data to support that. It loses a good chunk of viewers from Supernanny and it has been extremely poor in the demo (1.7 I believe).

I think that's more wishful thinking than reality.

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Prime-Time Metered Market Wednesday Ratings:
Idol Ignited Fox Dominates; Reality Guts the Airwaves

Wednesday 3/19/08

Household Rating/Share
Fox: 11.2/17, NBC: 6.0/ 9, CBS: 4.7/ 7, ABC: 4.1/ 6, CW: 2.2/ 3

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-Percent Change From the Year-Ago Evening (Wednesday, March 21, 2007)
NBC: +43, Fox: + 9, CBS: -24, CW: -37, CBS: -50

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Note: The fast affiliate results for Wednesday will be posted at PIFeedback by 12 p.m. ET. Go to the website, click on Ratings Box (the first category), then Last Night’s Results, and Wednesday, March 19, 2008.

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
The Moment of Truth (Fox), American Idol (Fox), Law & Order (NBC)

-On the Downside:
Survivor: Micronesia (CBS), America’s Next Top Model (CW)

-Yesterday’s Losers (Excluding Repeats):
Wife Swap (ABC), Big Brother 9 (CBS), Men in Trees (ABC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
Reality programming dominated once again last night, with 54 percent of the schedule of a non-scripted nature. Fox’s American Idol led the troops, of course, with the live results show at a 15.6 rating/24 share in the overnights from 9-10 p.m. That was quite a shock seeing Amanda Overmyer depart, wasn’t it?

Earlier in the evening, Fox’s relocated The Moment of Truth won the 8 p.m. hour with a 6.8/11 -- eight percent above a Wednesday edition of CBS’ competing Survivor: Micronesia (6.3/10). While the race among adults 18-49 could fall in either corner once the fast affiliate results are posted at PIFeedback, this is a real vote of confidence for The Moment of Truth (and a potential cause of future concern for Survivor). Year-to-year, Survivor was down by 19 percent in the overnights (6.3/10 vs. 7.7/13).

Also airing from 8-9 p.m. was a repeat of NBC’s Law & Order: Criminal Intent (4.5/ 7), ABC’s Wife Swap (3.8/ 6) and America’s Next Top Model on the CW (3.0/ 5). While Top Model remains the CW’s most-watched show, year-to-year it was down by a hefty 30 percent (3.0/ 5 vs. 4.3/ 7). To rejuvenate the franchise, why not do a season with all male models in 2008-09?

At 9 p.m., Fox’s aforementioned American Idol not only dominated, it beat the four competing networks combined by five percent. Take a look:

Wednesday 9 p.m.
American Idol (Fox): 15.6/24
Law & Order: Criminal Intent (NBC): 5.2/ 8
Supernanny (ABC): 4.7/ 7
Big Brother 9 (CBS): 3.5/ 5
Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious (R): 1.5/ 2

Worth noting for Supernanny, however, was growth of 24 percent out of Wife Swap.

Top rated honors at 10 p.m. fell in NBC’s corner, with veteran Law & Order at an 8.2/13 in the overnights -- 58 percent above lead-in Criminal Intent. Second was a repeat of CBS’ CSI: NY (4.4/ 7), followed by ABC’s Men in Trees (3.8/ 6), which has lost all potential signs of future life due to the haphazard scheduling.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data

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Originally posted by Chimera:
-- L&O mothership is picking up steam!

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Remember 1985-92 action adventure MacGyver? What was the lead character’s first name?

a) Angus
b) Cosmo
c) Duke
d) Lance
e) Solomon

Is: a) Angus. Richard Dean Anderson played Cosmo MacGyver.

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Originally posted by Holly:

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Originally posted by Chimera:
-- L&O mothership is picking up steam!

Except it fell week-to-week in the overnights (8.6 to 8.2)

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Originally posted by vlis:
Marc,
is the answer Angus or Cosmo???

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Remember 1985-92 action adventure MacGyver? What was the lead character’s first name?

a) Angus
b) Cosmo
c) Duke
d) Lance
e) Solomon

Is: a) Angus. Richard Dean Anderson played Cosmo MacGyver.