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Add in the cable viewers, and the Obama-mercial must have had well over 30mil viewers. And let's face it, the only relevant demographic here is 'old enough to vote'.

Fascinating to see this type of message make a comeback--this used to be a commonplace tactic for candidates of both parties, back in the 50's and 60's. Kennedy used them successfully, as did Nixon.

It was a very slickly produced program--frankly, a lot of diehard Obama supporters probably hated it for that very reason. But it wasn't aimed at them--this was for the fence-sitters in the heartland, who need to be shown that Obama is a mainstream candidate, with a mainstream message.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, Obama didn't mention McCain once in the whole half hour.

Does anybody think that if McCain and Palin had been given half an hour of primetime, they wouldn't have made it ALL about Obama?
 
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Pushing Daisies and Dirty Sexy Money actually improved in the ratings this week, while Private Practice scored a series low? Interesting. Maybe both shows still have growth potential. Pulling them off the schedule immediately would be wrong, I would wait a few more weeks. Yes, technically there are still ratings-losers, but so were other popular shows before them.

The episode of "Pushing Daisies" was quite good last night, it seems as if they are going into a more suspenseful direction with the addition of that ambigous old family friend of Ned's father. Color me intrigued. Missed the aunts though.

As for "Dirty Sexy Money", I dislike the show so much this season. Everything on the show feels so contrived now. Still, it entertains me. While I thought it was intelligent last season, it's now going the "Melrose Place"-road. Maybe it pays off, though definitely not quality-wise.

Looking forwards to see how LIFE is doing next week. LIFE is my favorite new show from last season, so I really hope it survives yet another move to another night and can improve in ratings.


 
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quote:
Originally posted by Jay:
2. Will moving "Life" and returning "Law & Order" give NBC a leg up, especially against the struggling ABC schedule?


"Law & Order" is replacing a show which was watched by about 5 people last night. It's not rocket science.

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Wow, what happened to Criminal Minds and CSI NY?

Last week:
Criminal Minds: (14.71 million; A18-49: 4.0)
CSI: NY (14.24 million; A18-49: 3.9)

This Week:
Criminal Minds: (13.80 million; A18-49 3.4)
CSI NY: (13.63 million viewers; A18-49: 3.4)



 
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LOM is a snorefest and will die in that slot and take BS with it.
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Originally posted by WlcmLAPD:
If I was scheduling Wednesdays, I would do Lost/Life On Mars/Border Security mid-season.

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Originally posted by vlis:

What would go to Weds in its place? A brand new show. PP stands a better chance of survival as it atleast has some audience from Grey's. Also, this leaves the post Grey's slot to something else that can get exposure.
 
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I know most of you here think abc should take the easy road and move PP behind GA but that just creates more problems for Wed.


I agree, vlis. I also think it doesn't make sense for Thursday, considering 10PM already has a female-skewing hospital drama in "ER." Those women watching "ER" aren't going to automatically drop it for "Private Practice," especially given that "ER" is in its final season. I actually think PPs' ratings would go down Thursday at 10PM.

If ABC wants to move it next year (or when "ER" goes into repeats), maybe. But not this year.
 
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Originally posted by dumont:
On a year-over-year basis, despite DVR usage climbing by 10%, all the networks are experiencing a surge in their numbers in demo, viewers or both with the exception of ABC,
I think that much of this weekly 'surge' is an artifact of the dates you are comparing. Last year, Wednesday was Halloween. After this Friday is included, I think the weekly increases will be much reduced or gone.
 
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Originally posted by pisher:
Add in the cable viewers, and the Obama-mercial must have had well over 30mil viewers. And let's face it, the only relevant demographic here is 'old enough to vote'.

Fascinating to see this type of message make a comeback--this used to be a commonplace tactic for candidates of both parties, back in the 50's and 60's. Kennedy used them successfully, as did Nixon.

It was a very slickly produced program--frankly, a lot of diehard Obama supporters probably hated it for that very reason. But it wasn't aimed at them--this was for the fence-sitters in the heartland, who need to be shown that Obama is a mainstream candidate, with a mainstream message.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, Obama didn't mention McCain once in the whole half hour.

Does anybody think that if McCain and Palin had been given half an hour of primetime, they wouldn't have made it ALL about Obama?



I truly think the super-ad will not have any impact at all. Obama didn't mention McCain beacause his staff is smart. He's well ahead, why the need to anger McCain supporters now? McCain- Palin are well behind so they think this is their only chance: personal attacks

I'm waiting to see the UNIVISION numbers, i think it may reach 35 million
 
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Originally posted by pisher:
Add in the cable viewers, and the Obama-mercial must have had well over 30mil viewers. And let's face it, the only relevant demographic here is 'old enough to vote'.

Fascinating to see this type of message make a comeback--this used to be a commonplace tactic for candidates of both parties, back in the 50's and 60's. Kennedy used them successfully, as did Nixon.

It was a very slickly produced program--frankly, a lot of diehard Obama supporters probably hated it for that very reason. But it wasn't aimed at them--this was for the fence-sitters in the heartland, who need to be shown that Obama is a mainstream candidate, with a mainstream message.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, Obama didn't mention McCain once in the whole half hour.

Does anybody think that if McCain and Palin had been given half an hour of primetime, they wouldn't have made it ALL about Obama?


In the UK, they have "Party Political Broadcasts" for each of the major parties (I watched some of them for the last Scottish election), and occasionally there have been calls that networks make time available for the parties to do that here in the US. If this turns out to be a successful tactic for Senator Obama, I wonder if the calls might be renewed for this sort of long form broadcast.

As for what Senator McCain and Governor Palin would do...yeah, attack is the strategy du jour, but who knows what tomorrow's will be...
 
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This is an increase of about 1million viewers (.3 demo) from last week. Not bad, actually.


Against a political ad, ANTM, and whatever was on MNTV? The World Series didn't get started until 8:40pm (about the same time it would have started if there'd been no Obama-mercial).

PD was already on its way out, but this really adds a touch of ignominy to its demise. A very shallow self-centered promotional ploy by ABC, and it will be seen as such by a lot of people.
 
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Originally posted by lopez:
Wow, what happened to Criminal Minds and CSI NY?

Last week:
Criminal Minds: (14.71 million; A18-49: 4.0)
CSI: NY (14.24 million; A18-49: 3.9)

This Week:
Criminal Minds: (13.80 million; A18-49 3.4)
CSI NY: (13.63 million viewers; A18-49: 3.4)


Baseball happend, both did extremely well against it
 
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As for what Senator McCain and Governor Palin would do...yeah, attack is the strategy du jour, but who knows what tomorrow's will be...


It's been their only strategy of any consequence for the last two months. There is a new twist--"Barack Obama isn't ready--yet."

And McCain will be ready--NEVER.

Wink
 
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From Media Life Magazine :

Obama's half-hour
draws 30.1 million

TV election pitch earns a 9.5 rating in 18-49s

By Toni Fitzgerald
Oct 30, 2008


With little else to choose from on broadcast, millions of viewers tuned in to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s half-hour primetime advertisement last night.

CBS, NBC, Fox and Univision combined to averaged 30.1 million total viewers for the half-hour special, according to Nielsen overnights, which aired at 8 p.m. The ad also ran simultaneously on MSNBC, BET and TV One, but ratings for those networks won’t be available until late today.

Obama’s biggest audience came on NBC, which averaged 9.85 million viewers. CBS drew 8.65 million, Fox 7.92 million and Univision 3.65 million.


quote:
Originally posted by robert:
quote:
Originally posted by pisher:
Add in the cable viewers, and the Obama-mercial must have had well over 30mil viewers. And let's face it, the only relevant demographic here is 'old enough to vote'.

Fascinating to see this type of message make a comeback--this used to be a commonplace tactic for candidates of both parties, back in the 50's and 60's. Kennedy used them successfully, as did Nixon.

It was a very slickly produced program--frankly, a lot of diehard Obama supporters probably hated it for that very reason. But it wasn't aimed at them--this was for the fence-sitters in the heartland, who need to be shown that Obama is a mainstream candidate, with a mainstream message.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, Obama didn't mention McCain once in the whole half hour.

Does anybody think that if McCain and Palin had been given half an hour of primetime, they wouldn't have made it ALL about Obama?



I truly think the super-ad will not have any impact at all. Obama didn't mention McCain beacause his staff is smart. He's well ahead, why the need to anger McCain supporters now? McCain- Palin are well behind so they think this is their only chance: personal attacks

I'm waiting to see the UNIVISION numbers, i think it may reach 35 million
 
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Both have very compatible audiences. The only other place Border Security could go is paired with 20/20 but those are taken up by the reality shows. It's best bet is after LOM.

As LOM being a snorefest, you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but if LOM doesn't keep your interest, no show on ABC will.

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Originally posted by vlis:
LOM is a snorefest and will die in that slot and take BS with it.


 
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Originally posted by Twins12:
From Media Life Magazine :

Obama's half-hour
draws 30.1 million

TV election pitch earns a 9.5 rating in 18-49s

By Toni Fitzgerald
Oct 30, 2008


With little else to choose from on broadcast, millions of viewers tuned in to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s half-hour primetime advertisement last night.

CBS, NBC, Fox and Univision combined to averaged 30.1 million total viewers for the half-hour special, according to Nielsen overnights, which aired at 8 p.m. The ad also ran simultaneously on MSNBC, BET and TV One, but ratings for those networks won’t be available until late today.

Obama’s biggest audience came on NBC, which averaged 9.85 million viewers. CBS drew 8.65 million, Fox 7.92 million and Univision 3.65 million.



Thanks, it may get close to 35 million in the finals, which is almost 2/3 of what the debates got.
 
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