So everyone is wrong and you're right. I mean, the critics are glorified internet fans, apart from the fact that they actually live and get money by evaluating shows like they did on that list. Dozens of them.

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If you were a critic, would critics prove quality?

If you were a Nielsen Family, would ratings prove quality?

Neither one of us is a network, so I'm still baffled as to why you think NETWORKS prove quality. Nobody pays more attention to ratings than networks. The ratings only exist BECAUSE OF the networks!

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What about the critics who praise The Wire (many of them). Are they glorified internet fans too?

Yup. And you'll never see me trying to prove The Wire is great. Or that the sky is blue, or that water is wet.

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At least we agree that 30 Rock is crap.

But the critics don't agree it's crap--and the ratings kinda do--isn't reality confusing? I'd stay away from it if I were you, T. But I'm not you.

Ok, there it is. Reality and your opinion are exactly the same thing to you right? I posted the critics list exactly to check if, maybe, you could see that there are other true opinions other than yours.
I mean, maybe you've got to learn to discuss the opinions, not saying "oh, this one is wrong, because they are glorified internet nerds", "this one is wrong because he can't spell 'difference'", but by actually saying why you think so. All you discuss is people, not facts.

Plato said that big souls discuss ideas, medium ones discuss facts and poor sould discuss people. Oh, yeah, but you think he's overrated, right?

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Ok, there it is. Reality and your opinion are exactly the same thing to you right?

Are you saying 30 Rock gets BAD reviews and GOOD ratings?

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I posted the critics list exactly to check if, maybe, you could see that there are other true opinions other than yours.

You posted it because you want desperately to prove something that can never be proven. And in any event, I LIKE LOST. I just don't think it's as good as it used to be. Why is it SO AWFUL for me to think the ratings point to a progressive loss of interest that has gone entirely in one direction?

Can I tell you, I hate the very WORD 'Quality' when applied to TV shows. I mean, you're being told a story--you're not buying a damn washing machine. If something goes wrong with the washing machine, you have a warranty. If a serialized TV show you've spent years following turns out badly, nobody's going to give you your spare time back.

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I mean, maybe you've got to learn to discuss the opinions, not saying "oh, this one is wrong, because they are glorified internet nerds", "this one is wrong because he can't spell 'difference'", but by actually saying why you think so. All you discuss is people, not facts.

The only FACTS to discuss here are the ratings, which you think are meaningless.

And honestly, I'm only here to discuss the ratings--if it gets personal, it's because you made it personal. And you really shouldn't do that with me. It never works out well. For you.

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Plato said that big souls discuss ideas, medium ones discuss facts and poor sould discuss people.

Plato also said that only a handful of enlightened people (enlightened by HIS conception) should rule everyone else, and that children should be taken from their parents forcibly and educated by the state. Sheesh, you accuse me of being dogmatic, then bring up Plato as a corrective?

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Oh, yeah, but you think he's overrated, right?

And you think he'd be a big Lost fan.

And I think he'd have been calling for the writers to drink hemlock after season three.

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And honestly, I'm only here to discuss the ratings--if it gets personal, it's because you made it personal. And you really shouldn't do that with me. It never works out well. For you.

OMG! I'll go write my epitaph and be right back!

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OMG! I'll go write my epitaph and be right back!

You know, sarcasm really isn't your thing.

But keep trying, you'll find it eventually.

I actually liked it, and I have a feeling you did too

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I actually liked it, and I have a feeling you did too

Okay, scratch off telepathy as well.

Thanks God for that. You're not on the top10 list of the best people to have a telepathic connection with. Or 100.

And this one was NOT done by critics

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Thanks God for that. You're not on the top10 list of the best people to have a telepathic connection with. Or 100.

Not for people with limited mental capacities, no. You could blow a fuse or something.

You are clearly desperate to have the last word in this exchange, as some kind of symbolic victory (since the real thing is out of the question).

Be my guest.

That's very curious, considering it's coming from the Queen of Lastwordism.

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You are clearly desperate to have the last word in this exchange, as some kind of symbolic victory (since the real thing is out of the question).

Whatever you mean by "real thing", I don't think you'll be getting any trophies