Day 2 of the 2009 NCAA Basketball: Regional Semi-Finals led CBS to victory with an approximate 10.31 million viewers and a 3.6 rating/11 share among adults 18-49 in prime-time. Comparably, this increased over the year-ago match-ups (Viewers: 9.24 million; A18-49: 3.2/11 on March 28, 2008, based on the final nationals) by 1.07 million viewers and 12 percent in the demo. Keep in mind that fast affiliate results for any live sporting event are always approximate.
Marc, do you have the half hour breakdown?
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Day 2 of the 2009 NCAA Basketball: Regional Semi-Finals led CBS to victory with an approximate 10.31 million viewers and a 3.6 rating/11 share among adults 18-49 in prime-time. Comparably, this increased over the year-ago match-ups (Viewers: 9.24 million; A18-49: 3.2/11 on March 28, 2008, based on the final nationals) by 1.07 million viewers and 12 percent in the demo. Keep in mind that fast affiliate results for any live sporting event are always approximate.
Why would that not work if TGIF did well on the night for years?
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Originally posted by tv avenger: I think abc should scrap their entire fri night of scripted and or reality shows for next season and do what works for Lifetime on sat. night and that is a night of original movies. Marc please dont say abc should fill the night with Disney channel fodder because seriously it wont work.
I'm glad you made the point about Whedon and the future. You hear this about various producers, Berlanti I think last year was mentioned along these lines.
Darn that math. There are 5 networks. One is almost invisible. One other is crumbling. Two of them are so heavily branded that there are almost restrictions as to what they even look at. Such thinking also assumes these producers are children who will pick up their ball and go home if they are made unhappy.
Which a lot of them are, and a lot of them DO--but they come back as soon as they realize they don't have a ball--just an IDEA for a ball, and to actually make the ball they need the networks and their money.
Whedon's fans keep asking why he doesn't go over to HBO or Showtime, or even one of the commercially-supported cable networks--and the reason is, he doesn't have good connections at any of them, and he doesn't win big mainstream awards (barely ever gets nominated), and he likes to spend LOTS AND LOTS of money.
I mean, look at the main Dollhouse set. Seriously--was this s**t really necessary?
There's that green grass sprouting up again, cable. That place where producers and shows should go to find easier terrain. Except that the concept standards are much higher, the accounting not so liberal, and viewer standards and expectations much tougher than in broadcast land.
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Originally posted by Marc Berman: Elsewhere, Fox remained out of the competitive loop with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Viewers: #3, 3.83 million; A18-49: #3, 1.3/ 5) and Dollhouse (Viewers: #4, 3.87 million; A18-49: #3, 1.3/ 4), which did increase from Sarah Connor as it normally does.
Was this increase of 1% in total viewers really worth noting (especially given that there was a decrease in share due to the HUT levels)?
The FOX shows did beat NBC, so I don't know why people are calling for these shows to be pulled from the air right now. They might as well air out the remaining episodes rather than bring back some lame reality gameshow. FOX will need an all new Friday night next Fall.
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And the CW capped off the low HUT level evening with barely visible performances for Everybody Hates Chris (Viewers: #5, 1.81 million; A18-49: #5, 0.7/ 2), The Game (Viewers: #5, 2.01 million; A18-49: #5, 0.9/ 3, which once had some traction, and an encore telecast of America’s Next Top Model (Viewers: #5, 1.71 million; A18-49: #5, 0.7/ 2). Chances are the CW will have no sitcoms on its line-up next season.
This was a good showing for CW on a Friday for this season. Like the Tuesday CW numbers, one needs to pay attention to the season comparisons rather than just bashing.
Day 2 of the 2009 NCAA Basketball: Regional Semi-Finals led CBS to victory with an approximate 10.31 million viewers and a 3.6 rating/11 share among adults 18-49 in prime-time. Comparably, this increased over the year-ago match-ups (Viewers: 9.24 million; A18-49: 3.2/11 on March 28, 2008, based on the final nationals) by 1.07 million viewers and 12 percent in the demo. Keep in mind that fast affiliate results for any live sporting event are always approximate.
Marc, do you have the half hour breakdown?
Interesting numbers. Thanks for posting them Marc!
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FOX has apparently told the 'Dollverse' site that all 13 eps they ordered will be produced and will air on Friday night on FOX. Only six left now. Not a huge commitment.
They will not air repeats--the timeslot will be immediately filled by a new series--called "Mental". AKA "What FOX was when it ordered 13 eps of Dollhouse."
Dollhouse, last week, was a lot better than the prior episodes. I did not realize it was supposed to be a game changer until after the fact. I don't think Fox has much confidence in the show. If they did, they would have put the "game changer" after Idol to give it some real exposure. It's also hard to launch a show on Fridays. I am amazed that people are not watching TV on Fridays given the economy, but oh well, I guess it is better than what the media is saying and I am one of the few whose so broke that I am actually watching tv on that night.
Sad, sad, sad "Dollhouse" numbers. Oh well I guess I'll enjoy it while it lasts. You have to admit though, the trailer for next week looks pretty darn good!
Originally posted by Marc Berman: Why would that not work if TGIF did well on the night for years?
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Originally posted by tv avenger: I think abc should scrap their entire fri night of scripted and or reality shows for next season and do what works for Lifetime on sat. night and that is a night of original movies. Marc please dont say abc should fill the night with Disney channel fodder because seriously it wont work.
Because the only people interested in them are kids. Because ABC has already tried airing Disney programming in prime time and failed. Because kids have already seen them on Disney and no way enough adults want to watch those terrible shows.
There's that green grass sprouting up again, cable. That place where producers and shows should go to find easier terrain. Except that the concept standards are much higher, the accounting not so liberal, and viewer standards and expectations much tougher than in broadcast land.
The assumption is that if somebody doing so-so work for networks gets to work for cable, they'll do much better work--never occurs to some people that the reason the work is better is that the cable people, with fewer hours to fill with first-run scripted shows, can afford to pick and choose (actually, can't afford NOT to).
Now it IS true that there are fewer cooks to spoil the broth at the cable 'networks'. There's a lot less second-guessing and note-giving all down the production line. And that does tend to produce better shows--or at least shows that know what they are. As Dollhouse self-evidently does not. But neither did Firefly, and Angel was a spinoff that kept finding and losing and relocating its own unique voice. I think Whedon's problems primarily come from Whedon, the way he works, the way he second-guesses himself, while at the same time falling too madly in love with his concepts, the way he copies from other people's papers a wee tad too much, even though he does have something of his own to contribute--maybe the problem is just that the first three years of Buffy were too hard an act to follow, and that Buffy was a case of collective inspiration, more than individual genius.
Bottom line, he's a solid second-tier talent who got elevated to auteur-hood--and it ruined him. Sad. But nothing to cry about. There's plenty of other stuff to watch.
I say a big exhale at CBS. The 8 games just completed the last few nites were decided by an average of 16 points. I'm not really familiar with the typical flow of these numbers from hour to hour, but that 10pm uptick looks impressive given the non competitive wipe out earlier in the evening. Viewers hungry for a tight game?
Day 2 of the 2009 NCAA Basketball: Regional Semi-Finals led CBS to victory with an approximate 10.31 million viewers and a 3.6 rating/11 share among adults 18-49 in prime-time. Comparably, this increased over the year-ago match-ups (Viewers: 9.24 million; A18-49: 3.2/11 on March 28, 2008, based on the final nationals) by 1.07 million viewers and 12 percent in the demo. Keep in mind that fast affiliate results for any live sporting event are always approximate.
Marc, do you have the half hour breakdown?
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Originally posted by blackfury: Dollhouse, last week, was a lot better than the prior episodes. I did not realize it was supposed to be a game changer until after the fact. I don't think Fox has much confidence in the show. If they did, they would have put the "game changer" after Idol to give it some real exposure. It's also hard to launch a show on Fridays. I am amazed that people are not watching TV on Fridays given the economy, but oh well, I guess it is better than what the media is saying and I am one of the few whose so broke that I am actually watching tv on that night.
i agree Dollhouse has never gotten a chance. Every show that would get this treatment by a network would fail. They could have aired it at 8 and then Terminator after Dollhouse, i bet Dollhouse would have more viewers now if they did that
No show can survive under this treatment. Even Desperate Housewives. If ABC put that on a friday after a show with little over 3 million viewers it would not be on the air right now.
FOX has pissed Whedon in the neck and i hope he does something about it. telling everybody FOX is gonna stab you in the back
Originally posted by blackfury: Dollhouse, last week, was a lot better than the prior episodes. I did not realize it was supposed to be a game changer until after the fact.
I didn't see anything 'game changing' in last week's episode. If anything, the next episode should have been advertised as the 'game changer' because just maybe this show will *finally* shed the weekly reboot situation.
There's that green grass sprouting up again, cable. That place where producers and shows should go to find easier terrain. Except that the concept standards are much higher, the accounting not so liberal, and viewer standards and expectations much tougher than in broadcast land.
The assumption is that if somebody doing so-so work for networks gets to work for cable, they'll do much better work--never occurs to some people that the reason the work is better is that the cable people, with fewer hours to fill with first-run scripted shows, can afford to pick and choose (actually, can't afford NOT to).
Now it IS true that there are fewer cooks to spoil the broth at the cable 'networks'. There's a lot less second-guessing and note-giving all down the production line. And that does tend to produce better shows--or at least shows that know what they are.
Spinning off from the current discussion and on to the point you make about the complicated production line on broadcast. I maintain this is a major problem with broadcast quality.
Huge ensemble casts, then the proliferation of storylines to accomodate them, and producer credits stretching well into the early minutes of the show. Outcome, a diluted, fragmented product that often appears to be the result of creative 'negotiations.'
If you look at most cable shows, whether you like the show or not, their game is much tighter.
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