Originally posted by Chimera: Speaking of traditional multi-cam comedies, ABC seems to be making a bit more effort in developing and hopefully picking them up. Two projects with Cedric the Entertainer and Damon Wayans are in the mix for next season, and Cedric's comedy has been ordered to pilot. I can see an hour of these series together, either on Tuesdays or Fridays @ 8pm next season.
In light of the development cuts at FOX, CW, and CBS, do you think these projects will be part of any ABC development cuts?
ABC has cut many of its talent deals, but they would be foolish to cut these two projects. There are several other projects on their list that they could get rid of first. Since they are both made in house by ABC Studios, hopefully they will survive the process. I do think that the networks will follow NBCs lead to a certain extent and reduce their reliance on pilot season, order fewer pilots and go more through the backdoor pilot route.
Originally posted by wenart25: That is not what is happening. All I mentioned was OTH/SN/SV were the best rated scripted performing shows on the CW at the moment. It would not surprise me to see Gossip Girl and Reaper on its fall schedule. And no one is saying that OTH is better than SN or visa versa.
When you typed that, were you able to keep a straight face?
Originally posted by wenart25: That is not what is happening. All I mentioned was OTH/SN/SV were the best rated scripted performing shows on the CW at the moment. It would not surprise me to see Gossip Girl and Reaper on its fall schedule. And no one is saying that OTH is better than SN or visa versa.
When you typed that, were you able to keep a straight face?
To get a fairer comparison (they either need to put each show in each other slots with both repeats and originals and then all originals), but baring that. We need to wait to see how either OTH does against the full schecule of original runs. Or wait to see new Supernatural run against reruns.
I think Supernatural's numbers will stay around the same, perhaps only a smidgen higher than normal. All its remaining new episodes have to contend with new Lost, which I think has more of a demo overlap than both CSI or Grey's. But we'll see in a week's time.
Congrats to OTH though. I guess the time jump has rejuvenated the series slightly. I've found myself watching this year too. Chad Michael Murray still can't act for crap, and some of the dialogue is just atrocious, but the combined force of Sophia Bush and Bethany Joy Galeotti keep me watching.
Originally posted by Chimera: AtJ had 6.3 million viewers last season to GLo's 6.1 million. Small difference, and several times GLo in fact got better ratings than AtJ. Beyond that, it's largely irrelevant
I'll take that as an indication that before last year, the ratings were not even close and that AtJ was far ahead.
Well, you would be wrong. The only reason I didn't go through all five seasons is I don't feel like doing homework for you, and as I mentioned, things change very quickly. But if you do that research yourself, you will find that most of those seasons the two had very similar ratings. Early on, AtJ was a moderate hit, but that was 5 or so seasons ago. Also, at some point GLo was moved to Friday, then Wednesday, whereas AtJ stayed on Tuesdays. When GLo was on Fridays, it had lower ratings on a lower HUT night. When it was on Wednesdays (paired for a season with "Freddie") it actually outdelivered AtJ.
According to Jim's ratings were in the six millions, but I dont think it should of been put on the losers list.
1. It grew out of Just For Laughs (I know American Idol was a factor) 2. It hit six million (it was at four last week) 3. Look at the new comedies on ABC. There doing worse then According to Jim.
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Because The CW has a limited number hours of programming, the shows have always been pitted against each other for survival... but to compare OTH and SN isn't really ideal. GG to OTH is a much better comparison, especially given the genre.
I think the main thing to draw from OTH's recent success is this... next season it will be the only scripted show coming off of brand new episodes, and therefore will have a momentum the other shows don't. If the net brings GoGi back, they really have to bring OTH back given its proven loyal (small) following... and NOT at midseason (even though that may have ended up saving it this year due to the strike).
It is a shame that the Supernatural vs. One Tree Hill battle is in full force and with both groups attacking Gossip Girl and Reaper with every chance they get. It would not surprise me to see all four shows back next season. I read this morning that CW (and some other nets) had drastically cut back the list of shows they are prepairing for pilot season due to the WGA strike.
I think both One Tree Hill and Supernatural are pretty much dead certs for renewal at this point. Gossip Girl is like the spoiled child of the CW, getting anything it wants and getting away with everything despite its low ratings so that's a certainty as well.
Reaper... I think it comes down to how well its remaining episodes do in Supernatural's timeslot. It had an awful lead-in for the first part of its run, and out of it and GG, the CW would throw it to the lions instantly despite it having around the same ratings. Time will tell though.
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Because The CW has a limited number hours of programming, the shows have always been pitted against each other for survival... but to compare OTH and SN isn't really ideal. GG to OTH is a much better comparison, especially given the genre.
Agreed. But I think both shows are compared because they both have a 9pm slot, and they both came over from the WB in the merger, while Gossip Girl is a CW original. That and both shows have extremely... "dedicated" core fanbases.
(CW may attract only 1% of viewers, but it makes up for it with over 50% share on Pifeedback posts.)
Couldn't Fox air something else than a House repeat after AI?
And the numbers for L&O:SVU are amazing, NBC must be really happy, since it is a cable re-run that wasn't even supposed to air on the network. Which begs the question: who the hell decided to move SVU to cable, and program Life instead?
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Originally posted by Obveeus: It is a shame that the Supernatural vs. One Tree Hill battle is in full force and with both groups attacking Gossip Girl and Reaper with every chance they get.
You saw a battle? Where? Did I miss it again?
I saw some people discussing how OTH and SPN do in their respective timeslots. I didn't see anyone say one or the other sucked, or was lame, or anything like that.
I also didn't see any attacks on Reaper and GoGi. Someone mentioned that OTH did a pretty good job growing out of a kind of low-rated Reaper repeat. But how is that an attack on Reaper, exactly?
Okay, some people said they didn't think GoGi should be renewed, even though it probably will considering how the CW favors it so. But I've seen similar things said about other shows on other networks.
Once again, it seems like certain posters here are just looking for signs that fans of CW shows are a bunch of hotheads who do nothing but go around attacking other shows. I could say, "Hmmmm, Reaper's numbers are down a little," and I'd be accused of attaching it because I'm an out-of-control fan of some other CW show.
Originally posted by Zitrone: Couldn't Fox air something else than a House repeat after AI?
And the numbers for L&O:SVU are amazing, NBC must be really happy, since it is a cable re-run that wasn't even supposed to air on the network. Which begs the question: who the hell decided to move SVU to cable, and program Life instead?
You are confusing Law & Order: SVU and Law & Order: CI. CI is the one on cable.
And the numbers for L&O:SVU are amazing, NBC must be really happy, since it is a cable re-run that wasn't even supposed to air on the network. Which begs the question: who the hell decided to move SVU to cable, and program Life instead?
I'm pretty sure its L&O: Criminal Intent that was moved to cable. SVU has always been on NBC as far as I know.
But that said, I'm pretty sure CI has been doing well on NBC this season as well.
Originally posted by Zitrone: (CW may attract only 1% of viewers, but it makes up for it with over 50% share on Pifeedback posts.)
Couldn't Fox air something else than a House repeat after AI?
And the numbers for L&O:SVU are amazing, NBC must be really happy, since it is a cable re-run that wasn't even supposed to air on the network. Which begs the question: who the hell decided to move SVU to cable, and program Life instead?
It was Law and Order Criminal Intent that moved to USA, not SVU.
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Someone mentioned The CW cutting down its pilot orders... are you referring to reality pilots? How can their be any scripted possibilities with the strike (unless they were ordered previously?)
I guess I'm asking because I would much rather see a familiar lineup of Smallville, OTH, SN, and any other scripted show than more of CROWNED and FARMER WANTS... Surely they've learned that duplicating ANTM's reality success isn't as easy as it looks.
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