The actors have jumped in favor of the writers but who gives a hand to the individuals who most need their jobs. I'm begining to lose my patience with the WGA.
The actors have jumped in favor of the writers but who gives a hand to the individuals who most need their jobs. I'm begining to lose my patience with the WGA.
Originally posted by WelcomeToK-Ville: Articles like these are the reason why the strike won't last much longer. The strike has gone beyond the point of reason, and everyone is losing now.
And everyone wasn't losing money, or acting unreasonable, in those long strikes of past in the Auto, Coal, Steel or take your pick of an industry? For that matter, don't you think both sides lost money in the 1988 strike? If I recall that strike lasted over 20 weeks.
Labor relations are never easy. And when the sides are far apart, and particularly prickly towards each other, strikes tend to last long past reason.
I hope you are correct, but I have serious doubts.
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Re: the WGA strike - I read something about the latest proposal offering about a 10% increase in pay. Yawn, who cares one way or the other? What I also read was that the new proposal was for a contract covering the next 3 years. If this whole strike is going to piss away months of work over a short 3 year contract, what is the point on either side?
Originally posted by Obveeus: Re: the WGA strike - I read something about the latest proposal offering about a 10% increase in pay. Yawn, who cares one way or the other? What I also read was that the new proposal was for a contract covering the next 3 years. If this whole strike is going to piss away months of work over a short 3 year contract, what is the point on either side?
Interesting ... usually the e/er argues for the longer term contract while e/ee side goes for a shorter term. I wonder why the Studios would purpose only a three year deal? Maybe just trying to get it done?
Originally posted by Obveeus: Re: the WGA strike - I read something about the latest proposal offering about a 10% increase in pay. Yawn, who cares one way or the other? What I also read was that the new proposal was for a contract covering the next 3 years. If this whole strike is going to piss away months of work over a short 3 year contract, what is the point on either side?
I don't know for sure, but my guess is that historically these deals are all relatively short-term; it's just that usually the negotiations are easier because there aren't these divisive "changing face of television" technology issues. The theory would be that if they work it out this time, the groundwork will be laid to make future negotiations more smooth, even if this individual deal is just three years. But of course, it may not work out that way, because the face of TV will likely continue to change.
Originally posted by spotupj: I don't know for sure, but my guess is that historically these deals are all relatively short-term; it's just that usually the negotiations are easier because there aren't these divisive "changing face of television" technology issues. The theory would be that if they work it out this time, the groundwork will be laid to make future negotiations more smooth, even if this individual deal is just three years. But of course, it may not work out that way, because the face of TV will likely continue to change.
Union towns are complicated. With pattern bargaining the first deal is always the toughest. What the media companies give to the writers will be multiplied by what the other unions will claim as a result. Therefore the tough stance. Also if the other unions' members are out of work as a result of shutdowns caused now, they may be unwilling to go out later for shutdowns proposed by their own unions.
Originally posted by robert: But the comments are more or less the same also beacause the actual numbers are more or less the same.
ABC is really promoting hard DH this week. I wonder if DH will go over 20 million. I would say yes, but not by much
It better... for the following reasons: It has been hyped literally for MONTHS. I remember hearing about a tornado hitting before the season even started. There's a massive cliffhanger and multiple deaths(which always brings in viewers) and the competition is gonna be weak. CBS's dramas won't be on and NBC's football game is going to be LAME.
I absolutely can't wait, but I hate that it's gonna be the last episode for an unknown amount of time.
The truth is WGA' strike is totally senseless. Why should the writers get more money from the new media sales. They are paied for the script that write and that should be it. If i work in a hardware company i'm not getting more moeny beacuse the IT company sales more, i recieve the money that are stated in the contract. Why should the writers recieve more? I really don't get it.
Originally posted by robert: The truth is WGA' strike is totally senseless. Why should the writers get more money from the new media sales. They are paied for the script that write and that should be it.
If the writer's don't deserve any 'back end', then the studios better be prepared to massively increase what they pay upfront for the work. I think the studios have a better deal right now because they pay some upfront money and ONLY have to pay the back end if the product is sucessful. Why would the studios want to pay everything upfront and be stuck with mostly products with zero backend value?
Paying residuals lowers the initial product cost and 'shares the risk' between the creators (writers/producers/actors) and the studios.
