Both "Smallville" and "Supernatural" didn't air here until after 11:40 p.m. last night because of the Yankees-White Sox game (Sox won, woohoo!), and it was delayed twice by rain.

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Originally posted by mswood:
SN will end up with under 2 million for final numbers think to Chicago. Not to mention that it is easily already a series low for the show. With several reruns outperforming it this season.

Sheesh, I used to think The Office wasn't getting much of a bump from all Carell's movies.

But compared to the bump 30 Rock is getting from Fey's latest film, it looks pretty solid by comparison.

Nothing will ever make people like 30 Rock. I watched a bit last night--it's just awful. I don't know what the people praising it to the skies are smoking, but I want some.

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Originally posted by mayorofsmpleton:

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Yes Csi won.

Not in the demo.

Seems like EVERYTHING was down last night. Too bad The Office is saddled between two fairly unfunny and poorly performing shows.

I hate the stupid demos.

It should just be by viewers.

Then everything would be easier.

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Sorry Walter--as unwatchable as Greys has become for me, it still whomped CSI's butt last night. I'm no devotee of the "demo is everything" school of thought, but a tiny lead in total viewers is decisively outweighed by a huge lead in 18-49 viewers.

Very true.

The low ratings for Supernatural certainly makes one thing clear...
The supernatural fans will have something to whine about for the next 7 days... until the next set of ratings come in.

Wow, the 8pm hour was really hurting last night! (With the expection of Survivor) I can't believe how much Betty has dropped since its first season.

I wonder if the strike had ended in the winter before the nice weather and time change, if the loss for all the shows would have been as bad.

What a disaster night for everyone.

Given the low expectiations the only show that did well was Lost. It will probably be around 12 million in the finals.

Horrible numbers for CSI and GA. Of course 16 million looks good but for a 30 million show like CSI and a near 25 like GA it does not look good.

Ugly Betty looks worse than i thought, The Office not impressive at all

What can i say about SN? OMFG, GG did a lot better

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Season to season Ugly Betty is not down by much, but the show is already showing age. I think I might be agreeing with pisher on this one. How long can the concept really last?

How good a deal did Hayek finagle with the network?

If you were a network executive, and you were negotiating with Salma Hayek, and she was dressing like she did on Ugly Betty, how do you think you'd do?

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Nothing will ever make people like 30 Rock. I watched a bit last night--it's just awful. I don't know what the people praising it to the skies are smoking, but I want some.

I think Tina Fey is just sleeping with everyone in Hollywood in exchange for their endorsement of the show and promise to praise it in every media publication...

I gave it 7 episodes and it just isn't particularly funny. I mean, I guess there's no accounting for taste, but even the attempted satire of the industry has been done better.

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Originally posted by robert:
What a disaster night for everyone.

Given the low expectiations the only show that did well was Lost. It will probably be around 12 million in the finals.

Horrible numbers for CSI and GA. Of course 16 million looks good but for a 30 million show like CSI and a near 25 like GA it does not look good.

Ugly Betty looks worse than i thought, The Office not impressive at all

What can i say about SN? OMFG, GG did a lot better

I think that Abc should move Grey's back to Sundays at 10pm.

It would be best for both shows.

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Originally posted by wenart25:
I think that should say something to Kripke and company. I applaud them for trying something new, but it did not work; the concept they tried. It just did not work and I think that reflects in the ratings.

Peace!

I also found the reality show concept on which the episode pivots to be rather lame.

Supernatural had nobody but themselves to blame with their horrible camera action. Even Cloverfield had better camera work, and I couldn't stand Cloverfield. The Ghostfacers logos after every single segment and the first ten minutes devoted to characters that I didn't care about, completely turned me off against the episode. The only part that was enjoyable was the last 2 minutes when it reverted back to normal camera action and the preview for next week's episode.

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How good a deal did Hayek finagle with the network?

If you were a network executive, and you were negotiating with Salma Hayek, and she was dressing like she did on Ugly Betty, how do you think you'd do?

She'd do better if she wore her outfit from "From Dusk Till Dawn"... Yikes!

The Office should end with its fifth season, so the ratings don't concern me much.

Lost has an established endpoint, so its ratings don't concern me much.

Ugly Betty and Greys Anatomy don't appeal to me anymore, so their ratings don't concern me much.

I never liked CSI, and seriously--why should its ratings concern anyone? It'll run for years longer, until everyone is bored to tears with it, and most of the original cast has left.

I want 30 Rock to die a slow painful death next season, so its ratings make me happy.

CSI is shocking from 20 M to 16 M.

GA was expected to drop from where the were pre-strike. For a show that used to get mid 20 million per episode last season this is a disaster.

Lost had 76% retention out of Grey's in both viewers and demo. That is the best retention any show has had out of Grey's right? That is better retention then WAT has out of CSI!

Oh and the CSI & Grey's numbers are absolutely shocking. What is happeneing? Are the viewers not aware that these shows have come back?