If SAG goes on strike this summer with the ratings as low as they are and the economy in shambles, they're dumber than dirt.

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Originally posted by Anthony:

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Originally posted by Marc Berman:
I agree...I think everything was rushed. But I also think the strike had a detrimental impact on everything.

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Originally posted by robert:
Am i the only one who thinks that most of the shows after the strike are pretty bad? I thought that during the strike the writers would come up woth great ideas, but most of the episodes i watched are below the average quality of the shows.

I think that with a recession and it's tough out there right now, the American public couldn't be happy that these overpaid writers were getting greedy. The fact is, the stuff they create is down 20% year-to-year in most places.

Plus, television is habit forming and many people realized they just didn't care anymore.

It's really bad for the business and really sad to see.

I love TV Week's take on all of this : DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, most shows hit season or series lows last night. See here :

http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/ratings-chart-attack/2008/0...lineup_slumps_as.php

Good for these greedy writers, they may have finally killed the golden goose.

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Originally posted by galveston:
If SAG goes on strike this summer with the ratings as low as they are and the economy in shambles, they're dumber than dirt.

Well that settles that. Better plan on them having another strike.

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Originally posted by asiancolossus:

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Originally posted by RussTC3:
Geez, CSI and Office had alarming drops.

CSI: -17% among viewers, -22% among A18-49
Office: -23% among viewers, -22% among A18-49

Ugly Betty and Grey's Anatomy did okay, with just mild declines, while Lost did very well in its return. We'll see how much that is offset by the Grey's overrun.

Ugly Betty: -4% among viewers, -14% among A18-49
Grey's: -9% among viewers, -11% among A18-49
Lost: +8% among viewers, +4% among A18-49

Russ are those percentages from before the strike or compared with last year? Seems like Ugly Betty fell a lot more than 4%! And didn't Grey's fall more than CSI?

Sorry, I should have been more clear. Those are just drops from the last newly aired episode. I'll put together some pre-strike numbers in a bit.

How can they have another strike? They'll kill TV.

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Originally posted by wenart25:
I think that should say something to Kripke and company. I applaud them for trying something new, but it did not work; the concept they tried. It just did not work and I think that reflects in the ratings.

Peace!

Applaud??? WTH?
Kripke and the witches of CW completely destroyed a once great show, that had good ratings and a huge fanbase. A lot of fans not only online but also at home. A lot of families loved Supernatural.

Then genius Kripke and his friend Bella Gamble decided to change a winning formula into a soap for teenies.
Now it's too late to do anything. It's over.
Now they don't have to worry about evil online fans anymore and the actors can all get marry and have 100 babies, with no job in sight.

This panic is unwarranted. The show isn't "destroyed." It's not a soap. Grey's Anatomy is a soap. You're just bummed out because this episode got rerun level ratings. As for Miss Bela, including her full time was Dawn Ostroff's idea. She was forced on Kripke. Bela was only ever meant to appear in one episode. Yes, she's a terrible character. I agree. Thank the maker she wasn't made a love interest. She's gone next season. Kripke said so. She's not Supernatural's Lana Lang. She's gone.

Supernatural will be return to character based shows in season one style next season. All is well. Breathe. Relax. Switching from the WB to CW did more damage than anything else. CW ratings suck. Period.

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Originally posted by mik:

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Originally posted by wenart25:
I think that should say something to Kripke and company. I applaud them for trying something new, but it did not work; the concept they tried. It just did not work and I think that reflects in the ratings.

Peace!

Applaud??? WTH?
Kripke and the witches of CW completely destroyed a once great show, that had good ratings and a huge fanbase. A lot of fans not only online but also at home. A lot of families loved Supernatural.

Then genius Kripke and his friend Bella Gamble decided to change a winning formula into a soap for teenies.
Now it's too late to do anything. It's over.
Now they don't have to worry about evil online fans anymore and the actors can all get marry and have 100 babies, with no job in sight.

Yeah and Route 666 the highest rated epsiode of Supernatural is so much better then this season. See if they only had more romance for the boys and evil possessed trucks the ratings would be so much better.

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Originally posted by mswood:
With Fast Nationals of 3.56. Smallville should also fall significantly with numbers for what easily should be a series low. I would expect to a round 3.2-3.3 million viewers.

I.E. numbers that would make any Supernatural fanboy or fangirl wet his or her pants with excitement.

I just noticed something. Marc, didn't Lost average a 5.5 among A18-49 last night?

yeap, but we have been talking about so many of the shows hitting lows, so I thought I would add the other one. As you can tell in my posts I talk about how abysmal SN numbers were.

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Originally posted by galveston:
As for Miss Bela, including her full time was Dawn Ostroff's idea. She was forced on Kripke. Bela was only ever meant to appear in one episode. Yes, she's a terrible character. I agree. Thank the maker she wasn't made a love interest. She's gone next season. Kripke said so. She's not Supernatural's Lana Lang. She's gone.

So when a character is poorly written it's the network executives fault?

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Originally posted by AmericanGothic:

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Originally posted by galveston:
As for Miss Bela, including her full time was Dawn Ostroff's idea. She was forced on Kripke. Bela was only ever meant to appear in one episode. Yes, she's a terrible character. I agree. Thank the maker she wasn't made a love interest. She's gone next season. Kripke said so. She's not Supernatural's Lana Lang. She's gone.

So when a character is poorly written it's the network executives fault?

No, but part of the fault does lie with the network in the fact that they had to reshape episodes for a character that was designed as a one time guest star. And with the budget concern they had to get the actress in a certain minimum number of epsiodes or payoff that would come out of the budget of the show. The character tehy created and planned for this season they were able to fit logically within the needs of the planned story arc.

WOW!! Lost scored a 5.5 in the demo?? That's pretty darn fantastic. It climbed like 1.1 in the demo since it's last airing! This news made my day (or night, I guess)! Awesome!

Yes...I screwed up!!! It was a 5.5/14 and I will fix it now.

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Originally posted by RussTC3:
I just noticed something. Marc, didn't Lost average a 5.5 among A18-49 last night?