I have seen every episode of Studio 60 and consider this a mercy killing. I was excited about this shiow but it stumbled creatively right out of the starting gate and never recovered. Studio 60 had the luxury that many new shows do not have for their first episodes -- a big audience. And it fumbled it at away immediately. So, no, I will not be signing a petition.
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You're saying that as if Studio 60 is something to be suffered through. What's wrong with you? Studio 60 is the best show on TV!
If you're a fan of Studio 60, please sign the petition to save it
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Yep, it has predictably cooled off since the premiere...and the show itself makes Old Christine look like a riot.
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Originally posted by A.C.:
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9pm - Two and a Half Men - 10.5/16 HH, 5.5/13 A18-49, 16.701 million viewers 9:30pm - Rules of Engagement - 8.7/13 HH, 4.8/11 A18-49, 13.725 million viewers 10pm - CSI: Miami - 11.0/18 HH, 5.5/14 A18-49, 17.235 million
It looks like a lot of people tuning out when RULES comes on and then they are back in full force with a million more friends for CSI at 10PM. Echoing what I said last week I doubt a show like this would pull in big numbers if it had to lead off the 8 or 9PM hours.
I wonder how "Black Donnellys" might do as a Friday night series. It might find more of a male audience there...that's where "SVU" and "Homicide: Life on the Street" developed a presense. The original "L&O" is kind of dying a slow death of old age over there now, but "TBD" might not be a bad idea, depending on what NBC does with the rest of the night...
it looks like the black donnellys will be going away pretty soon. In other NBC news, I'm wondering how many other people thought that was an amazing episode of Heroes last night?
Originally posted by TV Man: it looks like the black donnellys will be going away pretty soon. In other NBC news, I'm wondering how many other people thought that was an amazing episode of Heroes last night?
It was great...focusing on one story line really worked well. Once they get all the characters together I hope they can start doing more of that.
Originally posted by TV Man: it looks like the black donnellys will be going away pretty soon. In other NBC news, I'm wondering how many other people thought that was an amazing episode of Heroes last night?
I agree with Travis in saying that it was the best of the series!
It was great...focusing on one story line really worked well.
maybe that's part of the reason it was so good... hadn't thought of that. one of my chief complaints about the series is that, often, the stories in each episode are so very incomplete because the show tries to give equal time to its many strands. by focusing so tightly on one strand (that was really a coinciding of several) the show put on a spectacular hour of television and the didn't even miss Hiro, Peter, Nathan (and godforbid Niki/Jessica/etc). huge kudos to the series for setting its bar higher.
If by "best show on TV" you in fact mean "worst show on TV," then I agree.
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Originally posted by PaulC: I have seen every episode of Studio 60 and consider this a mercy killing. I was excited about this shiow but it stumbled creatively right out of the starting gate and never recovered. Studio 60 had the luxury that many new shows do not have for their first episodes -- a big audience. And it fumbled it at away immediately. So, no, I will not be signing a petition.
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You're saying that as if Studio 60 is something to be suffered through. What's wrong with you? Studio 60 is the best show on TV!
If you're a fan of Studio 60, please sign the petition to save it
Huh? When in the history of television has there been a show that was successful in delivering 18-49s, but not enough HH? Think about it.
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If you care about ABC, CBS, NBC, or FOX programming, that's what you should look at.
I do look at it. But actually, I don't care all that much for ABC, CBS, NBC, or FOX programming. And judging by their falling market share, I'm not alone in that.
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That's all that they sell and all that they look at.
And that's a gross overstatement, easily disproven by their own press releases. Yes, things are heavily weighted in favor of 18-49. But I've been told time and again that this or that show would continue because of its good demo #'s, then saw it canceled because of its crappy HH #'s. Below a certain number of total viewers, demo just stops mattering. Advertisers don't like learning that they could reach more people by hiring a blimp.
But in any event, who says we should consider the network's priorities to be the ONLY priorities? I say that people over 50 still have value, and you actually want to ARGUE that fact? I wasn't dissing demo, so SHUDDUP.
Posts: 1462 | Location: NY | Registered: 19 September 2006
24's #'s seem to be cooling off some. How is it doing year to year?
The show is worse. I think that's being reflected in the ratings, especially with competition for its key demo increased thanks to Heroes.
I'm almost positive that the show has increased year to year in total viewers through the same time period (episodes 1-11). In comparison, episode 11 from S5 had 11.97 million viewers since it was airing out of it's normal time slot (at 8PM instead of 9PM). The episode that aired out of it's normal time slot this season (episode eight I believe) had a much better 13.13 million viewers. Considering that the episode last week was the first episode that was beaten by it's season five counterpart except for the first episode, I'm fairly certain that S6 is doing better in overall viewership this season.
It's cooled off as of late, yes, but it certainly isn't free falling (not that anyone has implied that by any means in this topic, but by some of the posts in general, people seem to think that since it doesn't beat Heroes, it's a failure or it's doing worse when in fact the opposite is true). I don't think this season is "great", but I have enjoyed it and would consider it much better than season three and the awful mess that was season four.
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The networks would love it if their advertisers agreed with you. This has nothing to do with Cadillacs or purchasing preferences. Advertisers pay the most for 18-49s, who they feel are the most receptive to their messages. Networks try to attract the viewers that the advertisers pay the most for.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: I seriously doubt it is the ONLY numbers they look at. There is value in the 50+ demo.
I bet Cadillac, for example would prefer a show with a good 50+ demo.
The 50+ demo NOW purchases more than their parents and is more open to new and different products and brands. They are more relevent in the Entertainment market than before. Music, Movies, Concerts, DVD's etc.
Demo number are good in matching up program with product, but is shouldn't be and "end-all, be-all" stat for the networks.
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Originally posted by Gee: If you care about ABC, CBS, NBC, or FOX programming, that's what you should look at. That's all that they sell and all that they look at.
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isn't nbc #4
Not EVERYTHING should be about the 18-49 demo, Travis. We remain human beings, even after we hit the big Five-Oh.
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