PIFC Game #110, the 32nd game of the 2008-09 season, has just been posted. (Sorry for the delay!)
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I currently have subscriptions to some pay cable services so if I want to check out a movie on TV, especially an R-rated one, I'll check out one of those channels.

Of course, I understand not everyone goes for those channels. They're perfectly fine catching a flick on a broadcast or basic cable network, with commercial interruptions. However, the link I feature in this post for this particular film clip is one of the big reasons why I do NOT even bother watching films on an ad-supported network because it has to be edited for content and constraints to its time slot, although I must admit this clip had me rolling with laughter!

It was recently featured in a segment on Colbert Report so I figured I'd share with the rest of the forum: it's the most famous line from the Samuel L. Jackson 2006 B-movie, Snakes on a Plane... however, it's the FX network version! (Link)

I think this week's episode of survivor made up for last week's -- which I thought was so stupid of JT and stephen and Taj to go along with coach. It seems to be like a JT (who is a real two faced kinda guy) and stephen finale -- what do you think?

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
It was one of the more satisfying moments in Survivor History. Up there with the first Fake Immunity idol being played, a few seasons back.

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Originally posted by xwiseguyx:
Fully agree. Makes up for the highly disappointing previous week. I was applauding in my seat like I was watching a football game.

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Originally posted by metal:
Survivor was AWESOME! Don't ever end show! I love the social complexity SO MUCH!

If you'd like to see how last Saturday's sporting events fared in each respective market, as well as the most recent Tuesday night Yankees game in the New York and New Haven markets, check out the Saturday 4/18/09 & Tuesday 4/21/09 threads.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
Sophie Gone, Roommates Soon To Follow <--- LINK

I really hope they bring Roommates back, I waited a year for the show to finally air and I love it. I really hope they bring it back, but put it in a timeslot that doesn't compete with 2.5 Men.

After First Night of the 2009 May Sweep, ABC First in A18-49s, CBS Leads in Households & Viewership

After the first night of the 2009 May Sweep, ABC holds the lead in young adult demo, attracting the most A18-49s with 3.30, with CBS in second place at 3.00, NBC sits in third with 2.70, just ahead of FOX in fourth with 2.60. At the bottom are the mini-nets starting with Univision at 1.60, The CW at 1.20, and MyNetworkTV at 0.4.

In households and P2+ viewers, CBS took an early lead in households and most viewed with a 7.0HH and 11,010,000 viewer average. ABC is second, FOX third, NBC fourth, Univision fifth, The CW sixth and MyNet in seventh.

CBS, ABC and MyNetworkTV all showed big double-digit dips from last season, while the other networks were relatively steady to last year in key measures of A18-49 demo, households and viewers from last years May Sweep.

Overall for the seven networks, after one night A18-49 demo is down -17% from last year, down -15% in households and down -15% in P2+ viewers.

					nights	nights
demo		demo	demo	%	won	won
Rank	web	2009	2008	chg	2009	2008
1	ABC	3.30	4.80	-31%	1	1
2	CBS	3.00	4.10	-27%		
3	NBC	2.70	2.90	-7%		
4	FOX	2.60	2.30	13%		
5	UNI	1.60	1.90	-16%		
6	CW	1.20	1.20	0%		
7	MNT	0.40	0.70	-43%		
	total	14.80	17.90	-17%	1	1

					nights	nights
HH		HH	HH	HH	won	won
rank	web	2009	2008	chg	2009	2008
1	CBS	6.9	9.2	-25%	1	1
2	ABC	6.2	8.1	-23%		
3	FOX	4.8	5.3	-9%		
4	NBC	4.3	4.3	0%		
5	UNI	2.1	2.1	0%		
6	CW	1.9	1.8	6%		
7	MNT	1.0	1.2	-17%		
	total	27.2	32.0	-15%	1	1

					nights	nights
viewers		viewers	viewers	viewers	won	won
rank	web	2009	2008	chg	2009	2008
1	CBS	11.030	14.480	-24%	1	1
2	ABC	9.240	12.371	-25%		
3	FOX	7.620	8.621	-12%		
4	NBC	6.760	6.640	2%		
5	UNI	4.060	4.012	1%		
6	CW	2.900	2.918	-1%		
7	MNT	1.480	1.900	-22%		
	total	43.09	50.942	-15%	1	1
  

The data for this and last year are all final Nielsen numbers, except for Univision this year which is preliminary data. All Sweep calculations incorporate Nielsen final numbers for primetime programming, Monday to Saturday 8-11 pm, and Sunday 7-11 pm. For daytime over-runs into primetime and primetime run-pasts into latenight (e.g. sports coverage, award shows), only the primetime portion of the program numbers have been factored in. For networks that split programs into multiple segments of sustaining and non-sustaining coverage, the rating for the sustaining portion applies to the entire program broadcast.

Everybody is trying to figure out what to replace Smallville with. Most tend to lean toward a new DC property. They have had a couple of choices lately, Aquaman, Green Arrow, The Graysons, but none of them got past the development cycle. The Graysons lasted all of three days before being chopped. Should have gone with Nightwing instead.

And as much as I zero in and tend to lean towards male DC characters, why not run with Wonder Woman? Call it Diana or some such, plop her in a high school and have it an awkward god tries to fit in teen angsty action drama in which she helps right the wrongs of the school also. There is your DC, superhero, and target demo all in one show. No star spangled spankies though please.

I still think Gotham would blow Smallville out of the water though if DC would ever give up the reigns on the Bat franchise for TV. Gotham being a show very similar to Smallville, Bruce Wayne in high school, but in Gotham, doing the side detective thing.

They could always continue the lore started on the previous 'Wonder Woman' series.

In 'The New Original Wonder Woman' series (the second season on ABC before it moved to CBS), they had Wonder Woman's younger sister, Drusilla, in a handful of episodes, some of which were set in a high school context. Drusilla was wonderfully played by Miss Debra Winger.

At this point the hottest thing going for the young female set is anything with vampires and romance. Hmmmm, I wonder which show-runner will soon be free, and has a premade fully developed fictional world and can write great stories about vampires. So many possibilities.

My goodness gracious, 'Dollhouse' fell to 2.99 million viewers last night, a series low. No confirmation of demo.

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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Wasn't the original Parenthood TV series a sitcom, though? This is an hourlong drama. I think there's a big difference in bringing back Cupid in the same format (hour-long dramedy) and with the same creator/showrunner and trying out Parenthood again with everything different.

I agree. It was a single-camera, no-laugh-track comedy with no laughs. So... this will be the same thing, except twice as long. C'mon, there's a big difference between bringing back a show that is not based on a theatrical film and one that is. TV shows based on films have a high attrition rate for failure in the first place. And that's when the films are current and not, you know, 2 decades old.

I look forward to the announcement that NBC will also be remaking "Ferris Bueller" and "Baby Boom."

I think everything will be down this weekend. Much too nice to stay inside watching tv. I wouldn't be surprised if Dollhouse has close to 50% DVR viewership for this week.

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Originally posted by dumont:
My goodness gracious, 'Dollhouse' fell to 2.99 million viewers last night, a series low. No confirmation of demo.

Just to showcase the declines versus the year ago numbers here are the comparisons to all shows that aired on Thursday last year (same time).

ABC
Grey's Anatomy -17.7 in viewers and -23.1% in demo

CBS
Survivor -12.5% in viewers and -18.7% in demo
CSI -14.2% in viewers and -21.3% in demo

NBC
Earl -11.3% in viewers and -8.4% in demo
Office - 5.2% in viewers and -5% in demo
30 Rock +14.5% in viewers and + 10.7% in demo

Fox
Neither show aired last year on a Thursday

CW
Smallville -13.9% in viewers and -13.4% in both 18-49 and 18-34 Demos
Supernatural +22.7% in viewers + 10% in 18-49 and + 22.2% in 18-34

Now I don't see details on most of the shows above DVR demo results. But most of these will make the DVR results with viewers numbers. I will be very curious to see those viewer totals and compare them to the DVR results from last year to see how the overall decline stands up.

Certainly (with two exceptions) the shows in live viewing have taken a huge hit.

Last years Live +7 data for these shows (Minus 30 Rock that I don't have info on).

Grey's 18.60 million
Survivor 13.75 million
CSI 18.77 million
Earl 6.86 million
Office 8.97 million
Smallville 4.19 million
Supernatural 2.73 million

Needed Gains in Live + 7 to equal last year

Grey's 5.1 million viewers
Survivor 2.4 million viewers
CSI 4.17 million viewers
Earl 1.36 million
Office 1.67 million
Smallville 1.09 million
Supernatural 30,000 viewers

Using as an example the last DVR results for originals I have (Comparing increase from live SD to live+7) These aren't this week so its an estimate wont have that data for two weeks.

Grey's added 1.816 million (so its clearly down year to year)
Survivor added 1.576 so its most likely going to be down year to year
CSI added .926 million and will be down year to year
Office added 1.989 and should be up year to year

Dont have enough data for Earl or comparison data for 30 Rock

Smallville added .483 million and will be down year to tear
Supernatural added .219 and will easily be up year to year.

So DVR most likely isn't enough to make up the significant loses from live viewing (with the exception of the Office).

Supernatural (up all season long in all comparisons) and 30 Rock are up already on live same day (it is probably up in DVR as well but don't have enough data for 30 Rock).

It was for the majority of shows a terrible Thursday no matter how you look at it.

I thought the script for Parenthood was excellent and I think people arent giving the show a chance since its a remake. I havent seen the original, so I have nothing to compare it to but its written by the creator of Friday Night Lights (which is a great family drama in itself) and the cast: Maura Tierney, Peter Krause, Craig T. Nelson, Monica Potter, Erica Christensen, etc, are all great.

It wasnt too soapy like Brothers & Sisters (though that show is good, usually) or too cheesy like 7th Heaven. And the buzz the show is getting is definitely warranted. Also, remakes dont always fail. Ugly Betty, Friday Night Lights, Battlestar Galactica, and The Office, are all examples of how you can adapt something and have it be successful (with either ratings and/or critical acclaim (though UB is having a rough patch right now))

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Originally posted by TravisYanan:
Wasn't the original Parenthood TV series a sitcom, though? This is an hourlong drama. I think there's a big difference in bringing back Cupid in the same format (hour-long dramedy) and with the same creator/showrunner and trying out Parenthood again with everything different.

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Primetime Pilot Panic: The Hot List

NBC:

PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing."

I agree. Not that I'd be inclined to believe anything that comes out of the poisoned pen of Rat Finke, but you have GOT to be kidding me. Did NBC learn nothing from the failure of the new "Cupid?" The first TV adaptation BOMBED on the network (when the film was but a year old and the word "Parenthood" was a household name), so the NBC robots all get together and say to themselves, "Sounds good! Let's do it all over again 20 years later!"

Enjoy fifth place.

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Originally posted by Walter:
Its sad cause last nights CSI was one of the best this season. I really think that Fishburne should leave and have Cathrine as the head of the group. I love her.

Well, Catharine is the head of the group and Fishburne's character (can't remember his showname--is it Ray?) is the most junior member of the team. Catharine is the one with the nicest office, if you recall from last night's ep. And I agree with you, it was a good show. How dumb was the guy who got his case reopened, only to wind up confirming his guilt? [shakes head]

I lovae at the end when she say "I will save my pitty for him" and walks away.