Besides the fact that everything was down last night, I think Bones may have suffered from viewer fatigue. While it's great that Fox is airing the whole season despite the crazy preemptions on January and February, the show aired four times in the last two weeks, twice out of its regular timeslot (and its best performance was in its prior regular timeslot). That's a lot of Bones, and instead of being able to promote the regular Thursday episode all the time, promos would be divided between that and the "special Monday airing!" Just a thought?
Originally posted by lopez: Primetime Pilot Panic: The Hot List
NBC:
PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing."
I agree. Not that I'd be inclined to believe anything that comes out of the poisoned pen of Rat Finke, but you have GOT to be kidding me. Did NBC learn nothing from the failure of the new "Cupid?" The first TV adaptation BOMBED on the network (when the film was but a year old and the word "Parenthood" was a household name), so the NBC robots all get together and say to themselves, "Sounds good! Let's do it all over again 20 years later!"
Enjoy fifth place.
-- "Better Off Ted," Wednesdays at some time or another at some point or another in the near future. Because we can't all live in mansions and not ever work like the people on "Modern Family."
Originally posted by TravisYanan: Besides the fact that everything was down last night, I think Bones may have suffered from viewer fatigue. While it's great that Fox is airing the whole season despite the crazy preemptions on January and February, the show aired four times in the last two weeks, twice out of its regular timeslot (and its best performance was in its prior regular timeslot). That's a lot of Bones, and instead of being able to promote the regular Thursday episode all the time, promos would be divided between that and the "special Monday airing!" Just a thought?
I agree, 4 episodes in two weeks is overload of Bones. Thanking FOX for their efforts to broadcast all episodes this year, because of frequent preemptions, it is just too much. Important because of a big story arc that will finish season 4 and/or start season 5.
Wasn't the original Parenthood TV series a sitcom, though? This is an hourlong drama. I think there's a big difference in bringing back Cupid in the same format (hour-long dramedy) and with the same creator/showrunner and trying out Parenthood again with everything different.
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Originally posted by lopez: Primetime Pilot Panic: The Hot List
NBC:
PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing."
I agree. Not that I'd be inclined to believe anything that comes out of the poisoned pen of Rat Finke, but you have GOT to be kidding me. Did NBC learn nothing from the failure of the new "Cupid?" The first TV adaptation BOMBED on the network (when the film was but a year old and the word "Parenthood" was a household name), so the NBC robots all get together and say to themselves, "Sounds good! Let's do it all over again 20 years later!"
Live viewing on decline due to DVR Playbacks used more on youth-oriented shows By RICK KISSELL Digital video recorders continue to make life difficult for network programmers, as more and more Americans are opting to watch their favorite shows on their own timetables. Nielsen says DVR penetration is up to 31% of U.S. households (vs. 24% at this time a year ago), and it's at an even higher 36% among adults 18-49 (up from 29% last year). As a result, shows that skew younger tend to be recorded and played back on a higher percentage basis.
A look at seasonlong averages for all primetime programs on the broadcast networks reveals that DVR playback is most popular among those adults who watch the least amount of television (those under 35). At the same time, those who watch more TV than anybody (the 50-plus crowd) generally watch more live television.
CW's modestly performing "90210" (with a median age of 30) is the most recorded series on a percentage basis, with its audience for original episodes rising 30% from 2.24 million live to 3.35 million when all same-week DVR playback is included.
And among the higher-rated tier of primetime programs, NBC's "The Office" (median age: 35) and "Heroes" (38) plus ABC's "Lost" (41) rank the highest, all garnering 28% or more of their aud via DVRs.
The popular shows that are watched live on the widest basis are those that skew older. Leading the way here is ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" (median age: 56), whose audience is 91.5% live. Also high on the list are a quartet of CBS crime dramas ("Cold Case," "Flashpoint," "Without a Trace" and "CSI: NY"), each of which derives roughly 90% of its aud from live viewing.
One big exception to the older-folks-watch-more-live TV trend is Fox's "The Simpsons," whose audience is roughly 87% live. This is due to its longtime, accessible timeslot (Sundays at 8), and it's one of the few scripted broadcast programs to be watched in large numbers by families.
ABC reality vet "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" also falls into this category. Airing opposite "The Simpsons" on Sunday, this family fave is watched live 95% of the time.
Here are some other tidbits gleaned by looking at season-long DVR usage for original episodes:
In adults 18-49, the series showing the biggest ratings point jump from "live" to "live plus seven-day" are Fox's "American Idol" performance show (2.3 ratings points), ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" (2.2 points), the "Idol" results show (2.1), NBC's "The Office" (2.0) and ABC's "Lost" and Fox's "House" (both 1.9 points). While these scripted leaders all see the biggest chunk of their growth come from playback in the six days following their broadcasts, the majority of DVR playback on "American Idol" is done the night it airs. Of the 2.3 ratings point gain for the Tuesday performance show, 1.5 comes from viewing done by 3 a.m. Wednesday (Nielsen's "same day" cutoff) and 0.8 of it comes sometime over the next six days.
A lot of this playback likely comes on a slightly delayed basis, as one of the beauties of the DVR is viewers have the ability to start a program late but then catch up to "real time" by fast-forwarding through commercials.
This makes sense because "American Idol" is one of today's few watercooler shows, and viewers can't participate in the discussion the next day if they haven't seen the performers. In other words, if NBC's Thursday lineup in the pre-DVR was "Must See (live) TV," Fox's "Idol" of 2009 is more like "Must See Sometime Before I Go to Bed" TV.
ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" is the clear leader in terms of 18-49 ratings points gained by playback in the six days following its broadcast. The show's firstrun episodes this season are averaging a 5.9 rating in "live plus same-day" but a 7.1 in "live plus seven- day." This makes sense given that it airs in a very crowded timeslot (opposite "The Office" and "CSI"). Also ABC hasn't done that well on either side of "Grey's," making it less inviting for auds to watch the net's entire lineup live.
Behind "Grey's" 1.2 ratings point jump are six shows that rise by 0.9: NBC's "Heroes" and "The Office," Fox's "House" and "Fringe," ABC's "Lost" and CBS' "CSI."
Sports, not surprisingly, is the programming that is most watched live. NBC's "Sunday Night Football" jumps only 3% (to 16.3 million from 16 million) when all same-DVR playback is included.
And then there are those shows that are pretty much default TV, grabbing a decent sized aud of those flipping by on their remotes but not inspiring many to record them on their DVR. Heading this list, due largely to airing on Saturday, are Fox's "Cops" and "America's Most Wanted" and CBS' "48 Hours Mystery," each of which garners less than 5% of its "live plus seven-day" average from DVR playback.
Originally posted by Zedman2: Live viewing on decline due to DVR
Aside from sporting events and occasional specials, I watch about 95-98% of the shows via the DVR. And I absolutely love it!
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The list also says that it is early buzz and will be updated, so I think it's best to wait until the 2nd or 3rd update to get a clearer picture. I also think multiple sources (Variety, HR, Deadlinehollywooddaily.com), need to be combined to get the most accurate picture as they each have different leaks with different information.
NBC's up first and I'd expect them to pick up from a pile of Day One, Trauma, Parenthood, Community, Off Duty, and Legally Mad. Those are coming up in multiple leaks. Mercy is 50/50, leaning on dead. Everything else is likely dead.
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CBS:
UNTITLED NCIS SPIN-OFF (Paramount): "Will go." THREE RIVERS (Paramount/Deuce Three): "It's early but I hear they like what they're seeing." Stars Alex O'Loughlin who might bring his rabid Moonlight fanbase. FISH TANK (Sony TV) WAITING TO DIE (Sony TV/Tantamount) ACCIDENTALLY ON PURPOSE (Paramount/BermanBraun): "Jenna Elfman..." "Hot." HAPPINESS ISN'T EVERYTHING (Sony TV/Paramount/Tantamount): "Jason Biggs... Network is happy with the way it came in." Five scripts already. BACK (Paramount/Storyline) "Still shooting..." THE GOOD WIFE (Paramount/Scott Free): Cast contingent."
ABC:
THE BRIDGET SHOW (Sony TV/Tantamount/Hagada Hey) "Lauren Graham..." "Heating up." "Looks good." CANNED (ABC TV STUDIO/BGTV) COUGAR TOWN (ABC TV StudioDoozer/Coquette) "Courtney Cox..." UNTITLED RICKY BLITT PROJECT (Warner Bros) "Network liked it." "Jim Burrows directing." HAPPY TOWN (ABC TV Studio) SOLVING CHARLIE (ABC TV Studio/Gross Entertainment) FLASH FORWARD (ABC-TV Studio/Created By) "Was shot a while ago." "It's a go." "Ordered."
CW:
MELROSE PLACE (Paramount): "A lock..." UNTITLED GOSSIP GIRL SPIN-OFF (Warner Bros/Paramount/Alloy): "Looks great..."
FOX:
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS (BBC Worldwide/Sony TV/Tantamount): "A lock." SONS OF TUCSON (Twentieth TV/J2 Pictures): "Going." COP HOUSE (Twentieth TV/Adelstein) MAGGIE HILL (Twentieth TV/Imagine): "May be a go." HUMAN TARGET (Warner Bros/DC Comics/Wonderland): "Going." GLEE (Twentieth TV) : "Going." Gets preview after American Idol on May 19.
NBC:
PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing." OFF DUTY (Universal Media Studios/American Work) COMMUNITY (Sony TV/Krasnoff) DAY ONE (Universal Media Studios) TRAUMA (Universal Media Studio/Film 44) "Pete Berg..." LEGALLY MAD (Warner Bros/David E Kelley): Series penalty. MERCY (Universal Media Studios/BermanBraun)
Originally posted by TravisYanan: Besides the fact that everything was down last night, I think Bones may have suffered from viewer fatigue. While it's great that Fox is airing the whole season despite the crazy preemptions on January and February, the show aired four times in the last two weeks, twice out of its regular timeslot (and its best performance was in its prior regular timeslot). That's a lot of Bones, and instead of being able to promote the regular Thursday episode all the time, promos would be divided between that and the "special Monday airing!" Just a thought?
I agree, 4 episodes in two weeks is overload of Bones. Thanking FOX for their efforts to broadcast all episodes this year, because of frequent preemptions, it is just too much. Important because of a big story arc that will finish season 4 and/or start season 5.
Far too much, and while there were unique factors each nite affecting the ratings, I don't think it's a coincidence the ratings went down with each airing.
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Originally posted by Zedman2: Live viewing on decline due to DVR Playbacks used more on youth-oriented shows By RICK KISSELL Digital video recorders continue to make life difficult for network programmers, as more and more Americans are opting to watch their favorite shows on their own timetables. Nielsen says DVR penetration is up to 31% of U.S. households (vs. 24% at this time a year ago), and it's at an even higher 36% among adults 18-49 (up from 29% last year). As a result, shows that skew younger tend to be recorded and played back on a higher percentage basis.
A look at seasonlong averages for all primetime programs on the broadcast networks reveals...
...One big exception to the older-folks-watch-more-live TV trend is Fox's "The Simpsons," whose audience is roughly 87% live. This is due to its longtime, accessible timeslot (Sundays at 8), and it's one of the few scripted broadcast programs to be watched in large numbers by families.
ABC reality vet "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" also falls into this category. Airing opposite "The Simpsons" on Sunday, this family fave is watched live 95% of the time...
Eye opening that shows with family TV appeal are somewhat DVR erosion resistant but something TV has largely given up on. Cable stations carve out narrow niches and broadcast nets are so focused on the 18-49 demo they have lost the 'broad' in 'broadcast'.
Will this research do anything to shift the thinking of the failed development execs?
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Originally posted by Walter: Its sad cause last nights CSI was one of the best this season. I really think that Fishburne should leave and have Cathrine as the head of the group. I love her.
Well, Catharine is the head of the group and Fishburne's character (can't remember his showname--is it Ray?) is the most junior member of the team. Catharine is the one with the nicest office, if you recall from last night's ep. And I agree with you, it was a good show. How dumb was the guy who got his case reopened, only to wind up confirming his guilt? [shakes head]
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We don't watch anything live except sports and news. Even if I'm sitting in the room when one of my shows is on, I'm reading or watching something I recorded the day(s) before. I would never go back to watching TV live.
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Originally posted by Zedman2: Live viewing on decline due to DVR
Aside from sporting events and occasional specials, I watch about 95-98% of the shows via the DVR. And I absolutely love it!
