She was very good for information during the writers strike, if you can handle a little bit a pro-union slant.
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Originally posted by Ammit: Nikke Finke is to journalism, what Jessica Simpson is to acting.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: Last year Nikki's initial "Hot List" was about 50/50 right/wrong and, to me, this list looks about the same. This year also has a lot of obvious / pre-ordained go-series, so I honestly think much of this list should be taken with a grain of salt. Everyone already knows the NCIS spin-off, Flash Forward, Melrose Place, the Gossip Girl spin-off, and Glee are go-series, while Legally Mad will be ordered because of the penalty (but likely saved for a midseason / failed series replacement slot).
As usual I can't comment on the comedy scripts because I haven't read them, but I have heard good things about Happiness Isn't Everything (CBS), Absolutely Fabulous (FOX), and Community (NBC). Meanwhile I've heard terrible things about The Bridget Show (ABC) and Solving Charlie (ABC). So... we shall see in a few weeks!
I'll be back to doing pilot reviews today and over the weekend for those interested.
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Originally posted by lopez: Primetime Pilot Panic: The Hot List
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CBS:
UNTITLED NCIS SPIN-OFF (Paramount): "Will go." THREE RIVERS (Paramount/Deuce Three): "It's early but I hear they like what they're seeing." Stars Alex O'Loughlin who might bring his rabid Moonlight fanbase. FISH TANK (Sony TV) WAITING TO DIE (Sony TV/Tantamount) ACCIDENTALLY ON PURPOSE (Paramount/BermanBraun): "Jenna Elfman..." "Hot." HAPPINESS ISN'T EVERYTHING (Sony TV/Paramount/Tantamount): "Jason Biggs... Network is happy with the way it came in." Five scripts already. BACK (Paramount/Storyline) "Still shooting..." THE GOOD WIFE (Paramount/Scott Free): Cast contingent."
ABC:
THE BRIDGET SHOW (Sony TV/Tantamount/Hagada Hey) "Lauren Graham..." "Heating up." "Looks good." CANNED (ABC TV STUDIO/BGTV) COUGAR TOWN (ABC TV StudioDoozer/Coquette) "Courtney Cox..." UNTITLED RICKY BLITT PROJECT (Warner Bros) "Network liked it." "Jim Burrows directing." HAPPY TOWN (ABC TV Studio) SOLVING CHARLIE (ABC TV Studio/Gross Entertainment) FLASH FORWARD (ABC-TV Studio/Created By) "Was shot a while ago." "It's a go." "Ordered."
CW:
MELROSE PLACE (Paramount): "A lock..." UNTITLED GOSSIP GIRL SPIN-OFF (Warner Bros/Paramount/Alloy): "Looks great..."
FOX:
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS (BBC Worldwide/Sony TV/Tantamount): "A lock." SONS OF TUCSON (Twentieth TV/J2 Pictures): "Going." COP HOUSE (Twentieth TV/Adelstein) MAGGIE HILL (Twentieth TV/Imagine): "May be a go." HUMAN TARGET (Warner Bros/DC Comics/Wonderland): "Going." GLEE (Twentieth TV) : "Going." Gets preview after American Idol on May 19.
NBC:
PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing." OFF DUTY (Universal Media Studios/American Work) COMMUNITY (Sony TV/Krasnoff) DAY ONE (Universal Media Studios) TRAUMA (Universal Media Studio/Film 44) "Pete Berg..." LEGALLY MAD (Warner Bros/David E Kelley): Series penalty. MERCY (Universal Media Studios/BermanBraun)
I don't watch CSI, but I read Fishburn's character couldn't do fingerprints in his first episode. Wha...the... first rule of crime procedurals is the head crimefighter must be reassuringly supercompetent, whatever other quirks they may have. In my view the writers stumbled here. Have they corrected this?
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Personally, I like the addition of Fishburn. I do think the supporting cast has suffered with the exit of Grissom, then the addition of Fishburn's character. They have not don much all season.
Originally posted by mushu_jj: Yep. On demand and online viewing is the future. The affiliates have to be deathly afraid.
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Originally posted by PaulC: True that. The impact of DVRs and online viewing is undeniable. Just look at how fast the network numbers in the last five years have tumbled. We are now talking about shows surviving with a demo barely scratching a 2. That would have meant instant cancellation as recently as two years ago. Ad-supported network television as we have known it is nearing its end. People will deny this up and down, but there was a time GM looked untouchable too. How's it doing?
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Not to mention viewers are watching shows online and via DVR more than ever, especially with the nicer weather in many parts of the country.
If that happens will we be able to still tell how shows are doing in th millions.
Originally posted by lopez: [QUOTE]As for how many shows hit a season or series low, the answer is 11: Survivor (series low; non-Thanksgiving), CSI (series), Grey's (series), Office (season), Bones (season), Hell's (season), Smallville (season) and Supernatural (matching season low). Parks, Harper's, and Southland hit lows too, though that's somewhat common for third episodes of a series.
Bones hit a season low on January 22 with 7.52 million viewers. Not last night.
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The reaction to Fishburne on CSI boards is mixed. Some like him okay, but don't like the large amount of screen time he gets. But that's a narrow viewership, really. And they are all still watching the show because of their other favorites. A lot of the Jorja Fox fans have stopped watching, as I'm sure have the Gary Dourdan fans. Add that to Petersen's, and we are now seeing the results. Many of these fans sampled the 'new' CSI, but are just not happy with it.
I said this a few weeks ago: the cast chemistry has been off since Fox left; then Petersen's exit just magnified the problem. Even Dourdan's play off George Eads character is missing. All the original cast complimented each other so well. Without that cast chemistry it's just another crime show, no better, no worse. (Although I do think it's still better than Miami or NY.) I think they need to add another character, someone to mix it up, create some tension. Fishburne's character is just too reserved, aka boring. He's just not all that interesting to me. I prefer Dexter, or Grissom, or even Monk. Actually, I prefer The Office these days.
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Its sad cause last nights CSI was one of the best this season. I really think that Fishburne should leave and have Cathrine as the head of the group. I love her.
Originally posted by pisher: The Office was sharp and funny last night, and deserves a better lead-in (and lead-out) than NBC seems capable of giving it.
No doubt about it! "Well, well, well! How the turn tables!"
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But Parks&Rec should changes its name to Dorks& Retch. It was just flat-out awful. I saw some promise in the pilot...
What? Did that guy scratching himself on the couch in the pilot scream "promise" in such a show?
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...and even the second episode, but last night was a trainwreck.
Fortunately, I bailed on the show after episode #1.
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Can't NBC just run The Mighty B! instead?
Well, NBC once had the Singing B.
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Originally posted by Ammit: And the worst thing for the nets is that the demo they covet so, are the same people who are using the new technology the most. Take a look at this chart from TV by the Numbers. The percentage of 18-49 who aren't watching live or same day must be giving the execs fits.
Thank you for that link! My wife and I watch all of our shows via DVR, including 90210 and Dollhouse. The TV is off in our house until our kids are asleep, so we would miss the start of the 8pm shows otherwise. Dollhouse and BBT/HIMYM are my wife's favorite shows, I like Survivor and college football best.
Unfortunately, we do not watch any commercials, so even though we zip through everything before 11pm, we aren't helping the C3 ratings.
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Sorry, her record during the writer's strike was horrible, unless you think all WGA members are God-like and all producers beneath contempt.
She let her feelings influence her posts at allo times.
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Originally posted by Twins12: She was very good for information during the writers strike, if you can handle a little bit a pro-union slant.
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Originally posted by Ammit: Nikke Finke is to journalism, what Jessica Simpson is to acting.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: Last year Nikki's initial "Hot List" was about 50/50 right/wrong and, to me, this list looks about the same. This year also has a lot of obvious / pre-ordained go-series, so I honestly think much of this list should be taken with a grain of salt. Everyone already knows the NCIS spin-off, Flash Forward, Melrose Place, the Gossip Girl spin-off, and Glee are go-series, while Legally Mad will be ordered because of the penalty (but likely saved for a midseason / failed series replacement slot).
As usual I can't comment on the comedy scripts because I haven't read them, but I have heard good things about Happiness Isn't Everything (CBS), Absolutely Fabulous (FOX), and Community (NBC). Meanwhile I've heard terrible things about The Bridget Show (ABC) and Solving Charlie (ABC). So... we shall see in a few weeks!
I'll be back to doing pilot reviews today and over the weekend for those interested.
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Originally posted by lopez: Primetime Pilot Panic: The Hot List
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CBS:
UNTITLED NCIS SPIN-OFF (Paramount): "Will go." THREE RIVERS (Paramount/Deuce Three): "It's early but I hear they like what they're seeing." Stars Alex O'Loughlin who might bring his rabid Moonlight fanbase. FISH TANK (Sony TV) WAITING TO DIE (Sony TV/Tantamount) ACCIDENTALLY ON PURPOSE (Paramount/BermanBraun): "Jenna Elfman..." "Hot." HAPPINESS ISN'T EVERYTHING (Sony TV/Paramount/Tantamount): "Jason Biggs... Network is happy with the way it came in." Five scripts already. BACK (Paramount/Storyline) "Still shooting..." THE GOOD WIFE (Paramount/Scott Free): Cast contingent."
ABC:
THE BRIDGET SHOW (Sony TV/Tantamount/Hagada Hey) "Lauren Graham..." "Heating up." "Looks good." CANNED (ABC TV STUDIO/BGTV) COUGAR TOWN (ABC TV StudioDoozer/Coquette) "Courtney Cox..." UNTITLED RICKY BLITT PROJECT (Warner Bros) "Network liked it." "Jim Burrows directing." HAPPY TOWN (ABC TV Studio) SOLVING CHARLIE (ABC TV Studio/Gross Entertainment) FLASH FORWARD (ABC-TV Studio/Created By) "Was shot a while ago." "It's a go." "Ordered."
CW:
MELROSE PLACE (Paramount): "A lock..." UNTITLED GOSSIP GIRL SPIN-OFF (Warner Bros/Paramount/Alloy): "Looks great..."
FOX:
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS (BBC Worldwide/Sony TV/Tantamount): "A lock." SONS OF TUCSON (Twentieth TV/J2 Pictures): "Going." COP HOUSE (Twentieth TV/Adelstein) MAGGIE HILL (Twentieth TV/Imagine): "May be a go." HUMAN TARGET (Warner Bros/DC Comics/Wonderland): "Going." GLEE (Twentieth TV) : "Going." Gets preview after American Idol on May 19.
NBC:
PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing." OFF DUTY (Universal Media Studios/American Work) COMMUNITY (Sony TV/Krasnoff) DAY ONE (Universal Media Studios) TRAUMA (Universal Media Studio/Film 44) "Pete Berg..." LEGALLY MAD (Warner Bros/David E Kelley): Series penalty. MERCY (Universal Media Studios/BermanBraun)
Travis is 100% correct. Nikki's "inside sources" gave her a track record of about 50%. You, me, and a dartboard could do about that well. She is a fun, snarky, bitchy, off-color read. But for accuracy, she and Ausiello are about in the same boat.
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Originally posted by Fred Farrar: Sorry, her record during the writer's strike was horrible, unless you think all WGA members are God-like and all producers beneath contempt.
She let her feelings influence her posts at allo times.
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Originally posted by Twins12: She was very good for information during the writers strike, if you can handle a little bit a pro-union slant.
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Originally posted by Ammit: Nikke Finke is to journalism, what Jessica Simpson is to acting.
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: Last year Nikki's initial "Hot List" was about 50/50 right/wrong and, to me, this list looks about the same. This year also has a lot of obvious / pre-ordained go-series, so I honestly think much of this list should be taken with a grain of salt. Everyone already knows the NCIS spin-off, Flash Forward, Melrose Place, the Gossip Girl spin-off, and Glee are go-series, while Legally Mad will be ordered because of the penalty (but likely saved for a midseason / failed series replacement slot).
As usual I can't comment on the comedy scripts because I haven't read them, but I have heard good things about Happiness Isn't Everything (CBS), Absolutely Fabulous (FOX), and Community (NBC). Meanwhile I've heard terrible things about The Bridget Show (ABC) and Solving Charlie (ABC). So... we shall see in a few weeks!
I'll be back to doing pilot reviews today and over the weekend for those interested.
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Originally posted by lopez: Primetime Pilot Panic: The Hot List
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CBS:
UNTITLED NCIS SPIN-OFF (Paramount): "Will go." THREE RIVERS (Paramount/Deuce Three): "It's early but I hear they like what they're seeing." Stars Alex O'Loughlin who might bring his rabid Moonlight fanbase. FISH TANK (Sony TV) WAITING TO DIE (Sony TV/Tantamount) ACCIDENTALLY ON PURPOSE (Paramount/BermanBraun): "Jenna Elfman..." "Hot." HAPPINESS ISN'T EVERYTHING (Sony TV/Paramount/Tantamount): "Jason Biggs... Network is happy with the way it came in." Five scripts already. BACK (Paramount/Storyline) "Still shooting..." THE GOOD WIFE (Paramount/Scott Free): Cast contingent."
ABC:
THE BRIDGET SHOW (Sony TV/Tantamount/Hagada Hey) "Lauren Graham..." "Heating up." "Looks good." CANNED (ABC TV STUDIO/BGTV) COUGAR TOWN (ABC TV StudioDoozer/Coquette) "Courtney Cox..." UNTITLED RICKY BLITT PROJECT (Warner Bros) "Network liked it." "Jim Burrows directing." HAPPY TOWN (ABC TV Studio) SOLVING CHARLIE (ABC TV Studio/Gross Entertainment) FLASH FORWARD (ABC-TV Studio/Created By) "Was shot a while ago." "It's a go." "Ordered."
CW:
MELROSE PLACE (Paramount): "A lock..." UNTITLED GOSSIP GIRL SPIN-OFF (Warner Bros/Paramount/Alloy): "Looks great..."
FOX:
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS (BBC Worldwide/Sony TV/Tantamount): "A lock." SONS OF TUCSON (Twentieth TV/J2 Pictures): "Going." COP HOUSE (Twentieth TV/Adelstein) MAGGIE HILL (Twentieth TV/Imagine): "May be a go." HUMAN TARGET (Warner Bros/DC Comics/Wonderland): "Going." GLEE (Twentieth TV) : "Going." Gets preview after American Idol on May 19.
NBC:
PARENTHOOD (Universal Media Studios/Imagine): "Almost a lock." "Great cast." "Tommy Schlamme directing." OFF DUTY (Universal Media Studios/American Work) COMMUNITY (Sony TV/Krasnoff) DAY ONE (Universal Media Studios) TRAUMA (Universal Media Studio/Film 44) "Pete Berg..." LEGALLY MAD (Warner Bros/David E Kelley): Series penalty. MERCY (Universal Media Studios/BermanBraun)
BlueLick, Bones didn't air opposite a procedural last night and yet, had its worst Thursday 8/7c outing this season.
Like I've stated it before, your procedural-vs-procedural theory isn't completely wrong but it's not absolute either.
On a related note, no reason to prop up most of the procedurals anyway. Most of them involve cookie-cutter, formulaic plots, and are devoid of character development, as if the characters in the show are crime-solving robots. This is why I prefer a show like Bones over most shows in this genre because at least the characters there actually HAVE distinct and interesting personalities.
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