I've seen the promo, curious. The ep looks to really get inside Sam and Dean's heads. That can only be a good thing. It's about time Sam especially had a mental breakdown. The guilt would be extreme. The entire town of Carthage along with his two friends Ellen and Jo are dead because the devil rose with his help.
I taped CSI and watched Grey live, and they both were very very bad last night. Both had their worst episodes of the season and reading the comments, people agreed with me.
That could very well be the case. I think that ABC has massive potential with Thursday at 8 PM and the Grey's Anatomy pre-tune and Flash Forward isn't capitalizing on it. After The Olympics, perhaps they should let another show have that timeslot to see if it can work.
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Originally posted by tvchtw: I don't think a change in timeslot is going to matter. It did just fine up against the same competition to open the season, but clearly people have grown tired of it. Moving it to another night is not going to cause people to come back to it and no new people will tune in to a show having missed the first 8 or 10 episodes and not having a clue whats going on.
Originally posted by MattyBoy: the mentalist is the nights top show in viewers. just imagine what it could be getting if it were earlier in the night. its so much better than CSI
People are forgetting that The Office and Grey's Anatomy are Demo powerhouses and The Mentalist would be crushed in the demo but also there is no guarantee that The Mentalist with no real competition at 10 now could survive against Grey's Anatomy. CSI and Grey's Anatomy take a lot of viewers away from each other. My guess is tones of CSI viewers would go to GA. But the most important thing is the 18-49 where The Mentalist would just crumble and collapse completely.
I see how much that marketing ploy boosted the ratings for Fringe? Not-they're actually lower then they were last week. A sub 2.0 demo at the half is disaster. I think the only way to save the show is to move it back to Tuesday after AI. It'll be interesting to see what Fox has planned for it in midseason.
Very bad for FF-it keeps dropping every week and is 3rd place in the timeslot. I know this is definitely not what ABC expected-especially this early in the season. It brought down the night and gave the demo lead to CBS.
I could have told you at the beginning that Flash Forward would be a one hit wonder, if that. After the gimmick of everyone losing consciousness at once, what do you do for a follow up once its explained?
It's no longer possible for ABC to develop and sustain a good genre show. It was just barely possible when Lost was developed, and I doubt it'll ever happen again.
The Mentalist seems to be slowly settling into its new spot, I honestly think its more of a 9pm show but its doing well there. CSI could use another boost in that 10pm spot. CSI: NY was the only show in that trilogy to grow so it benefited from the stunt.
Originally posted by Troxa: Is there any reason to account for Vampire Diaries' drop? I thought this show has settled comfortably into the 4 to 4.5 million range.
Originally posted by Troxa: Is there any reason to account for Vampire Diaries' drop? I thought this show has settled comfortably into the 4 to 4.5 million range.
Probably New Moon.
Isn't everything down because there was a Thursday night NFL game on that was competitive? The football game had to have taken viewers away from everything else.
No, except for in the local markets of Charlotte and Miami it was on the NFL network which typically only draws 3 to 5 million viewers. Honestly new moon probably had a bigger effect. It made $26 million dollars last night so thats around 3 million (mostly younger) who may have normally been home watching younger driven shows, especially Vampire Diaries.
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Originally posted by Troxa: Is there any reason to account for Vampire Diaries' drop? I thought this show has settled comfortably into the 4 to 4.5 million range.
Probably New Moon.
Isn't everything down because there was a Thursday night NFL game on that was competitive? The football game had to have taken viewers away from everything else.
Originally posted by Troxa: Is there any reason to account for Vampire Diaries' drop? I thought this show has settled comfortably into the 4 to 4.5 million range.
Probably New Moon.
Isn't everything down because there was a Thursday night NFL game on that was competitive? The football game had to have taken viewers away from everything else.
Well using teh VD and SN, both had a football preemption (full), yet SN is down just 32,000 from last week (and in line with its performance for the full month), while VD is down 590,000 from last week, and far below whats its gotten this month.
Both have roughly the same sized male audience (based on extrapolation of the w18-34 and the a 18-34 numbers). SO what could be the difference? Well VD young female audience is more then double SN, and it seems on paper the most likely to be hurt be early movie goers.
Also I find FLASH FORWARD continual drop upsetting. It sad when a network tries to come up with some INNOVATIVE programmingn like FLASH FORWARD and V and then you see the the numbers continue to go down as viewers bleed off because they can't be bothered to follow a continuing story and would rather tune in to see the some NCIS cops doing the same story week after week or the BONES team field yet another similar case.
I always watch Bones live and DVR Flash. Since FF is heavily serialized, it's more fun to watch 2 or 3 eps in a row.
And yeah, moving FF to a new time slot probably won't help. If you don't know the back story, why bother watching now?
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Also I find FLASH FORWARD continual drop upsetting. It sad when a network tries to come up with some INNOVATIVE programmingn like FLASH FORWARD and V and then you see the the numbers continue to go down as viewers bleed off because they can't be bothered to follow a continuing story and would rather tune in to see the some NCIS cops doing the same story week after week or the BONES team field yet another similar case.
I always watch Bones live and DVR Flash. Since FF is heavily serialized, it's more fun to watch 2 or 3 eps in a row.
And yeah, moving FF to a new time slot probably won't help. If you don't know the back story, why bother watching now?
I think it's probably much more about people not getting into the characters. Same problem V is having. Lost is far harder to keep track of, but the characters are compelling. That's why it succeeded. As the characters started, at times, to become parodies of themselves, through excessive repetition, the ratings fell, but the characters remained interesting enough to keep a good-sized audience coming back for more.
