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quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: So what you're really saying is that you prefer laugh tracks, sub par writing, predictable jokes and stereotypes for characters over dynamic camera movements (rather than a musty sound stage and one camera), sophisticated writing, talented actors and true satire? 
No, The Office is NOT better than BBT.
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| Posts: 405 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 25 January 2008 | |
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quote: Originally posted by RoyBoyCF: quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: So what you're really saying is that you prefer laugh tracks, sub par writing, predictable jokes and stereotypes for characters over dynamic camera movements (rather than a musty sound stage and one camera), sophisticated writing, talented actors and true satire?
No, The Office is NOT better than BBT.
I love all these people (including a lot of critics) who love to praise these single camera sitcoms, while bashing the multi camera CBS sitcoms. Well, check the ratings. The CBS Monday night sitcoms kill the NBC Thursday night sitcoms in the ratings every week. The only one that is even competitive with its counterpart is The Office, and something tells me it will dip as well when Grey's Anatomy returns this week. |
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quote: Originally posted by RoyBoyCF: quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: So what you're really saying is that you prefer laugh tracks, sub par writing, predictable jokes and stereotypes for characters over dynamic camera movements (rather than a musty sound stage and one camera), sophisticated writing, talented actors and true satire?
No, The Office is NOT better than BBT.
I'm not an Office fan, but I certainly acknowledge it is superior to BBT (or 2 and 1/2 men) with much more nuanced writing. But then again, I guess it's not for everyone. There's a reason old school comedies used to be so popular, eh?  Since networks strive to find the lowest common denominator...
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quote: Originally posted by galveston:
That's all the CW cares about, too, that insufferable 18-34 and teen female demo. It'll drive the network to financial ruin, but whatever. I wish some of that budget that went for all those ads for Gossip Girl could be spared to get more classic rock back into Supernatural. grumbles. Yes, I like my grapes very sour, thank you. Of course, not having Bela next season would also free up that money. SPN's budget being cut for next year chaps my behind.
I share your pain, I wasn't surprised by the budget cut (though again it pisses me off). I do wonder if that is a across the board for all shows, decrease. And yeah, I certainly hope that the producers save money by cutting at least one actress from the show. The one nice thing was it was the first confirmation that I have read (from the actual producers or studio) that it was picked up for 22 episodes, so was pleased by that.
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quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
I love all these people (including a lot of critics) who love to praise these single camera sitcoms, while bashing the multi camera CBS sitcoms. Well, check the ratings. The CBS Monday night sitcoms kill the NBC Thursday night sitcoms in the ratings every week. The only one that is even competitive with its counterpart is The Office, and something tells me it will dip as well when Grey's Anatomy returns this week.
Huh? I didn't say NBC is better than CBS.
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| Posts: 405 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 25 January 2008 | |
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quote: Originally posted by RoyBoyCF: quote: Originally posted by Twins12:
I love all these people (including a lot of critics) who love to praise these single camera sitcoms, while bashing the multi camera CBS sitcoms. Well, check the ratings. The CBS Monday night sitcoms kill the NBC Thursday night sitcoms in the ratings every week. The only one that is even competitive with its counterpart is The Office, and something tells me it will dip as well when Grey's Anatomy returns this week.
Huh? I didn't say NBC is better than CBS.
Sorry, I wasn't adressing your comment. I was just making a general statement about the mulit camera vs single camera sitcoms. |
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quote: Originally posted by galveston: quote: Originally posted by ray:
l want reaper to come back tonight and get at least 2.80 mil viewers so that they can look at Ostroff and say Yeah Now What
She won't care. Whether Reaper gets higher ratings than Gossip Girl (and it usually does) is irrelevant to her. Reaper doesn't score well in the teen female and 18-34 female demo. In Dawn's eyes, that's why Gossip Girl is such a hit. It's all she cares about. The girly girl teeny demo.
Not only that it does exceptionally poorly in the overall 18-34 demo. While I am sure they would rather have the female side of it. But if it could only managed to get decent numbers in the male demo for that age group, it would be renewed.
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quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: I'm not an Office fan, but I certainly acknowledge it is superior to BBT (or 2 and 1/2 men) with much more nuanced writing. But then again, I guess it's not for everyone. There's a reason old school comedies used to be so popular, eh? Since networks strive to find the lowest common denominator...
I don't know about that, series like Seinfeld or Friends (minus the last couple of years) were well written but didn't necessarily have mass appeal a priori. They were much more sophisticated than "lowest common denominator". Maybe the new sitcoms are just not funny enough.
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| Posts: 609 | Location: NYC | Registered: 02 November 2007 | |
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While I believe they both might get another 13, it will depend on what type of comedies FOX has on the pipeline. They don't seem to go for these kinds of comedies and something with the quirkiness of Unhitched, Life on a Stick, The Winner or The Loop isn't going to fit in with these shows. quote: Originally posted by WlcmBlueBloodWorstEnemy:
Both Til Death and Back 2 You will get another 13 in the fall. FOX isn't going to launch new comedies without having some established comedies on roster.
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| Posts: 5891 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 | |
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Frazier Crane is that you? quote: Originally posted by total eclipse: But then again, I guess it's not for everyone. There's a reason old school comedies used to be so popular, eh? Since networks strive to find the lowest common denominator...
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| Posts: 5891 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 | |
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What can i say? I'm just not that intelligent to get The Office, for us stupid people it's easier ro watch crap sitcoms like BBT
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quote: Originally posted by robert:
What can i say? I'm just not that intelligent to get The Office, for us stupid people it's easier ro watch crap sitcoms like BBT
LOL, I guess I am stupid, too. I also watch BBT and HIMYM, but not The Office. |
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quote: Originally posted by Zitrone:
Maybe the new sitcoms are just not funny enough.
When someone talks about how 'nuanced' the NBC sitcoms are, that is what they mean. 'Nuanced' is a spin word for 'not funny' |
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quote: Originally posted by Twins12: quote: Originally posted by robert:
What can i say? I'm just not that intelligent to get The Office, for us stupid people it's easier ro watch crap sitcoms like BBT
LOL, I guess I am stupid, too. I also watch BBT and HIMYM, but not The Office.
Yup, i'm sorry but you're stupid. You're IQ (and mine)is way too low for intelligent shows. Sorry  |
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quote: Originally posted by Obveeus: quote: Originally posted by Zitrone:
Maybe the new sitcoms are just not funny enough.
When someone talks about how 'nuanced' the NBC sitcoms are, that is what they mean. 'Nuanced' is a spin word for 'not funny'
If thats the case, 30 Rock must have a butt-load of it.
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| Posts: 15257 | Location: Indiana | Registered: 20 September 2006 | |
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