Originally posted by mushu_jj: Elisabeth? I haven't seen it, but usually its the other way around with the bigot doing all the bashing.
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Originally posted by wenart25: Man...Rosie and Elisabeth on the View...what a fight. Elisabeth can be such a you know what sometimes.
Anyways...the ratings for VM..not a good way to g out.
Peace!!
All Rosie did was ask Elisabeth a question because Elisabeth stated our enemies in Iraq and Rosie asked her did she mean our own US troops. Elisabeth mentioned she was referring to Al Qaida, not the US troops. And that is what set it off, with Elisabeth doing most the yelling, while Rosie stated that she was not going to fight with her. It was pretty heated.
Originally posted by Milcus: 3. The finale of Veronica Mars was really good. Its a shame no one watched it. I have really enjoyed the show but it was time for it to go. The ratings are pathetic..
I suppose once again we are all stupid for not watching.....
No, I never said that. I am just saying the show has been enjoyable, and last night's 2 episodes were pretty good.
Maybe the show did deserve better, but it was what it was. The adventures a a 17-19 year old P.I. solving high school and college crimes didn't appeal to everyone, I get it, I am just saying there was something there to enjoy for 3 seasons..
While I watched VM mosta the time from S1 to now, I cannot agree more with other posters who said that the quality of the scripts & acting had fallen off. My farewell has now been changed to "Good Riddance!"
Does Ostroff secretly work for NBC? Much as I like FNL, it's just as ratings-challenged as VM was. And the goofy decision to drag it out for S2 is pure Ostroff-esque(Joey-esque) & will prolly result in a monumental ratings collapse after the first ep or two, perhaps preventing it from providing the dignified ending this show deserves.
Originally posted by pisher: Well, you don't have to pay for the show, so why should you care?
I don't care because ratings have nothing to do with quality and at this point, frankly, they don't matter any more.
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Not exactly a universally held opinion, even among longtime VM viewers.
Why should I care what other people think of the show? It's a personal opinion which I was stating.
But to refute your point, the two episodes currently rate at 9.6 and 9.9 at TV.com. The later is the highest rating the show ever scored on the site. Apparently the people who rated it there were incredibly satisfied.
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And what it says is that THE SHOW SUCKED.
Agreed, very poor overall ratings. It's what caused the series to be canceled. It could never find an audience. Staying on for three years when it should have most likely been canceled after 1 (or perhaps 2) says a lot for the quality of the show. And I'm thankful for that.
Moving on though, I can't wait for Lost tonight. Should be an amazing finale!
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The year-over-year losses in A.I. are significant. I know that spring viewing levels are depressed overall, but I can't help but think that Melinda's ouster last week had something to do with it. Her fanbase skewed older, and I wonder if some of the viewership suffered as a result (and NCIS held up quite well... hmmmm)
I predicted last week after Melinda was booted off, that the finale would be the lowest-rated since the 1st (summer) season.
DWTS was strong. I think the Emmitt/Mario smackdown last fall was a bigger draw - but impressive numbers nonetheless (and not a lot of slippage in 18-49 for the last hour...compared to last year).
As far as Lost tonight? I think a lot of casual viewers who either don't regularly watch the show, or gave up watching it recently, will switch over at 10pm to see what happens...
9-10pm - 12 million 10-11pm - 14.5 million (with nearly 16 million in the last half hour)
i wasn't big on the penultimate episode, and the finale was definitely written as a season finale and not a series finale. i can't imagine it really being "satisfying" to fans of the show because it wasn't written to satisfy. the plot was a little too close to S1's "Clash of the Tritons" for my taste... but it was still a good hour of (practically unwatched) television.
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Originally posted by vlis: depends how you look at it.... from MediaLife:
The two-hour show averaged a 6.6 in adults 18-49 and 22.7 million total viewers. Its numbers were down 7 percent and 17 percent, respectively, from last fall’s season three finale, won by ex-Dallas Cowboys great Emmitt Smith.
Last fall’s finale was only one hour. The final hour last night averaged a 6.9, nearly the same as last fall’s 7.1.
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Originally posted by Hawk-eye: Isn't DWST down from the finale of last falls run. I seem to remember DWTS being around 27 million for the final episode.
Also, AI results show has been doing much better than the performance show the last few weeks (at least in the demo). Still, there should be room for a good performance from Lost.
I look at it like a 6.6 is less than a 7.1and down 17% is equal to um .... down 17%
Originally posted by TravisYanan: wow, pisher, way to let the show die...
i wasn't big on the penultimate episode, and the finale was definitely written as a season finale and not a series finale. i can't imagine it really being "satisfying" to fans of the show because it wasn't written to satisfy. the plot was a little too close to S1's "Clash of the Tritons" for my taste... but it was still a good hour of (practically unwatched) television.
Well, speaking for myself, I thought it was incredibly satisfying. Mostly because it serves so wonderfully as a season/series finale and the cliffhanger is mild, allowing for the individual to imagine what will happen in the future.
Everything comes full circle in a sense. They could be back to where they were (socially) in the first season.
The episodes also had a great season 1 vibe to them (my favorite season, followed by season 3) and the cast was all used very effectively, with each getting ample screen time.
These were probably the most expensive episodes of the current season, given all the cameos, and extensive use of the cast and different sets.
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As much as I love DWTS, it was way to long. I understand why they would want to have it at 2 hours for the huge ratings that they know it will get, but come on, make it a little more entertaining and dont rehash so much. I personally would have loved to see a good portion of this show on Jimmy Kimmel and Guierremo(?) they are truly the best thing about the results show. The reason last falls DWTS finale got such huge ratings,I believe, is because it aired on a Sun. night and it was the only big thing on that night, last night their were many choices to choose from and it still did extremely well, but not a well as in the fall, but thats o.k. well take what we can get. My prediction for Lost is that it will get 15-16 mill. There has been so much hoopla on line regarding this game changing moment that I feel people are actually excited to see it.
I don't care because ratings have nothing to do with quality and at this point, frankly, they don't matter any more.
Which is why you spend so much time posting on threads devoted to discussing ratings?
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Why should I care what other people thing of the show? It's a personal opinion which I was stating.
Right, so nobody's right or wrong, and there's nothing to refute!
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But to refute your point, the two episodes currently rate at 9.6 and 9.8 at TV.com. The later is the highest rating the show ever scored on the site. Apparently the people who rated it there were incredibly satisfied.
Right. The people who gave enough of a damn to vote at TV.com. A full representative sampling--and somehow now opinions have become OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE--when they agree with yours.
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Agreed, very poor overall ratings. It's what caused the series to be canceled. It could never find an audience.
And other shows did, with weaker lead-ins, and less promotion.
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Staying on for three years when it should have most likely been canceled after 1 (or perhaps 2) says a lot for the quality of the show. And I'm thankful for that.
And well you should be. But those of us who want television to be good have no cause for gratitude.
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Moving on though, I can't wait for Lost tonight. Should be an amazing finale!
Well, speaking for myself, I thought it was incredibly satisfying. Mostly because it serves so wonderfully as a season/series finale and the cliffhanger is mild, allowing for the individual to imagine what will happen in the future.
Right. Veronica gets bumped from the FBI internship, her dad loses his job as Sheriff, they end up shooting each other. Logan finally picks a fight with somebody who hits back and gets beaten to death, and they all end up writhing in TV Hell together--forever. THE END.
Hmm so let me get this straight. Rosie called our troops the enemy? If so then well there's nothing new with that and good ridance when she's finally shown the door.
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Originally posted by wenart25:
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Originally posted by mushu_jj: Elisabeth? I haven't seen it, but usually its the other way around with the bigot doing all the bashing.
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Originally posted by wenart25: Man...Rosie and Elisabeth on the View...what a fight. Elisabeth can be such a you know what sometimes.
Anyways...the ratings for VM..not a good way to g out.
Peace!!
All Rosie did was ask Elisabeth a question because Elisabeth stated our enemies in Iraq and Rosie asked her did she mean our own US troops. Elisabeth mentioned she was referring to Al Qaida, not the US troops. And that is what set it off, with Elisabeth doing most the yelling, while Rosie stated that she was not going to fight with her. It was pretty heated.
Hmm, just noticed you've posted nothing worthy of a response.
Oh wait, the finale rating at TV.com actually just changed. It's at a 9.9 now.
I edited my original post to reflect that.
And to clarify my remark about the ratings don't matter, it was directed at the ratings for Veronica Mars. I thought I was clear about that when I originally said it.
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