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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CBS has been succeeding on Friday nights for quite a while now
I agree, except for the somewhat subpar performance of Moonlight.
 
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Originally posted by BlueLick:
FOX might be ruling Friday nights with CBS as FOX's MyNetworkTV will have Smackdown, which almost beat 90210 believe it or not on a Friday.


This race wasn't even close. Demos are what matters. I haven't seen the CW's 18-34 demo ratings, but Smackdown had only about 60% of the 18-49 demo as 90210 (even though 90210 was pre-empted in Chicago). The only show that Smackdown has beaten in the 18-49 demo all week long on CW was the encore of 90210 on Thursday.
 
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
Do they have to worry about local sports in NYC? LA? Phily? etc...


KCOP holds the rights to LA Angels games during the regular season. Since the playoffs will be taking place by the time the move to MNTV is complete, pre-emptions won't be taking place here for a while.
 
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CBS has been succeeding on Friday nights for quite a while now
I agree, except for the somewhat subpar performance of Moonlight.


Agreed. Getting rid of Moonlight was a good decision to help keep them on top.




 
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If CBS wanted to stay on top, they would have shaken up their Friday lineups like the other networks have done. Let's be honest, last year the Friday lineups were terrible. FOX had Nashville and Great American Band. NBC had junk. And ABC attempted to slot anything that didn't have a place and 20/20. This year, FOX and ABC took their most reliant reality shows with good, consistent ratings and more importantly younger skewing and stuck them there. NBC may have lucked into it, but they have ATJ which grew in viewership week two despite tougher competition, and DOND which will bring in good ratings on Friday. If Crusoe fails, they can just bring DOND in again. CBS countered with a declining viewership GW (which is getting more old skewing every year), a horrible sounding Ex-List that is at best getting mixed reviews (EW hated it), and Numbers. If CBS really wanted to ensure number 1, they would have at least done GW, The Unit, Numbers and demos would still be a concern as some of these reality shows can pull in the mid to even high 2s if promoted right. With this increased competition, it is far from being a sure bet.


 
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Great job by SD! on a dead network for the franchise.

AYSTA5G, amazing job in the two hours.

Only Supernanny vs DFTL vs The Ex-List vs Crusoe will be the real battle. Wife Swap is not a factor at all this fall.
 
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Great job by SD! on a dead network for the franchise.

AYSTA5G, amazing job in the two hours.

Only Supernanny vs DFTL vs The Ex-List vs Crusoe will be the real battle. Wife Swap is not a factor at all this fall.

The Ex-List is DOA.

I really think the big winners will be FOX and ABC with their reality lineups. They're dirty cheap compared to scripted shows.



 
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Its not so much that they decided to air repeats, but the fact they they keep changing the schedule from originals to repeats. I fillow the show and keep up on most TV scheduleds and even I am not sure when it is a repeat or Original anymore.
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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Well they didn't want to waste new eps against the Olympics and I think they were honestly worried about some of the big premieres this past week so they just decided to air a new 2 hour ep this week. What they could've done is hold on that clip special and go with a new ep the final week. Then promote that new eps were 2 weeks away and then just air a new episode per week after that. This week then they could've ended it with the clips show.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
WIPEOUT has only had one original episode over the last 5 weeks (w/ 3 repeats and a clips show).

EIther ABC is finding new ways to kill their shows by changing the originally scheduled new episodes with repeats.
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Originally posted by Walter:
Another thing why is ABC still puting out new episodes of Wipout. The summers over and its killing the ratings.


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Well, even a subpar Moonlight usually does better then anything the other 4 nets place on that night
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
quote:
Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CBS has been succeeding on Friday nights for quite a while now
I agree, except for the somewhat subpar performance of Moonlight.


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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Well, even a subpar Moonlight usually does better then anything the other 4 nets place on that night
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Originally posted by Obveeus:
quote:
Originally posted by TV-aholic:
CBS has been succeeding on Friday nights for quite a while now
I agree, except for the somewhat subpar performance of Moonlight.


ABC had a great thing going with Women's Murder Club. It was doing well on ABC Fridays, considering what they pull in now, and instead the Chimps place it after Dancing With the Stars, and can it.
 
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I think Fox, in particular, is going to benfit with its non-scripted line-up.
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Originally posted by Eagles#5:
Great job by SD! on a dead network for the franchise.

AYSTA5G, amazing job in the two hours.

Only Supernanny vs DFTL vs The Ex-List vs Crusoe will be the real battle. Wife Swap is not a factor at all this fall.

The Ex-List is DOA.

I really think the big winners will be FOX and ABC with their reality lineups. They're dirty cheap compared to scripted shows.


 
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Top 20 Markets (and Indianapolis) : Overnight Household Ratings-Primetime
Friday, September 5

                                           # 1       # 2       # 3       # 4       # 5
 Time  Net  Program                         NY        LA       CHI       PHI       DAL
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 8:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  3.1/ 6    2.8/ 5    3.5/ 7    3.9/ 7    5.1/10
        CW  WWE Friday Night SmackDown!  1.7/ 3*   2.3/ 4    2.5/ 5    2.3/ 4    3.1/ 6
       ABC  Stand Up to Cancer           2.9/ 5    3.7/ 7    3.8/ 8    3.0/ 5    1.5/ 3
       NBC  Stand Up to Cancer           2.3/ 4    1.7/ 3    1.3/ 3    1.4/ 2    2.1/ 4
       CBS  Stand Up to Cancer           3.3/ 6    2.0/ 4    1.3/ 3    1.2/ 2    2.7/ 5
       MNT  The Academy             (R)  0.7/ 1    0.9/ 2    0.3/ 1    0.9/ 1    0.3/ 1
       ION  The 10th Kingdom        (R)  0.4/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.9/ 2

 9:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  4.0/ 7    3.6/ 6    3.9/ 7    4.8/ 7    7.0/13
       CBS  CBS Fall Preview             2.4/ 4    2.1/ 4    2.1/ 4    2.4/ 4    1.7/ 3
       ABC  Amer Funn Home Videos   (R)  2.8/ 5    3.7/ 6    4.3/ 8    2.5/ 4    2.7/ 5
       NBC  NFL Opening Kickoff          1.4/ 2    2.1/ 4    0.5/ 1    1.3/ 2    1.4/ 2
       MNT  Paradise Hotel 2        (R)  0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.3/ 1    1.0/ 2    0.2/ 0
       ION  Movie:Enslavement: F.Kemble  0.3/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.8/ 1    0.2/ 0    0.4/ 1

 9:30  CBS  New Adv of Old Christine(R)  2.3/ 4    1.4/ 2    1.2/ 2    2.8/ 4    1.6/ 3

10:00  ABC  20/20                        4.5/ 7    5.5/10    6.4/11    3.9/ 6    6.9/12
       CBS  Swingtown                    2.6/ 4    1.1/ 2    1.7/ 3    3.1/ 5    2.3/ 4
       NBC  Dateline NBC                 2.4/ 4    2.9/ 5    1.5/ 3    2.4/ 4    3.9/ 7

        *   Due to MLB: PHI @ NYM (5.3/9), this CW program aired on Saturday


                                           # 6       # 7       # 8       # 9       #10
 Time  Net  Program                    SF/OAK/SJ     BOS       ATL     WSH DC      HOU
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 8:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  2.4/ 5    1.5/ 3    7.3/14    3.5/ 6    3.6/ 6
        CW  WWE Friday Night SmackDown!  1.6/ 3    2.0/ 3    2.2/ 4    1.9/ 3    2.9/ 5
       ABC  Stand Up to Cancer           1.8/ 4    2.0/ 3    2.7/ 5    3.1/ 5    4.5/ 8
       NBC  Stand Up to Cancer           1.5/ 3    2.2/ 4    0.9/ 2    3.6/ 6    1.9/ 3
       CBS  Stand Up to Cancer           1.3/ 3    2.7/ 5    0.8/ 2    2.3/ 4    3.0/ 5
       MNT  The Academy             (R)  2.1/ 4              1.0/ 2    0.2/ 0#   1.2/ 2
       ION  The 10th Kingdom        (R)  0.2/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.2/ 0

 9:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  5.1/10    2.0/ 3    9.2/16    4.7/ 7    4.1/ 7
       CBS  CBS Fall Preview             1.4/ 3    0.9/ 1    1.2/ 2    2.2/ 3    3.6/ 6
       ABC  Amer Funn Home Videos   (R)  1.9/ 4    2.3/ 4    1.7/ 3    2.2/ 4    5.0/ 9
       NBC  NFL Opening Kickoff          1.1/ 2    0.8/ 1    1.2/ 2    2.9/ 5    0.9/ 2
       MNT  Paradise Hotel 2        (R)  0.4/ 1              0.8/ 1    0.2/ 1#   0.9/ 2
       ION  Movie:Enslavement: F.Kemble  0.1/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.9/ 1    0.2/ 0

 9:30  CBS  New Adv of Old Christine(R)  1.3/ 2    1.2/ 2    1.1/ 2    1.4/ 2    3.1/ 5

10:00  ABC  20/20                        3.3/ 7    3.9/ 7    5.1/ 9    3.0/ 5    7.8/14
       CBS  Swingtown                    1.1/ 2    1.5/ 3    2.0/ 3    2.2/ 4    1.7/ 3
       NBC  Dateline NBC                 2.5/ 5    1.8/ 3    2.3/ 4    3.5/ 6    2.1/ 4

        #   Due to MLB: WSH @ ATL (0.4/1), this MNT program aired in late night


                                           #11       #12       #13       #14       #15
 Time  Net  Program                        DET       PHX     TAM-StP  SEA-Tac   MIN-StPl
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 8:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  4.1/ 8    3.7/ 7    6.0/11    2.7/ 5    5.9/13
        CW  WWE Friday Night SmackDown!  4.2/ 7    2.7/ 5    2.7/ 5    1.8/ 4    1.9/ 4
       ABC  Stand Up to Cancer           3.9/ 7    1.7/ 3    1.2/ 2^^  1.6/ 3    1.5/ 3
       NBC  Stand Up to Cancer           1.8/ 3    2.1/ 4    4.2/ 7    2.2/ 4    3.3/ 7
       CBS  Stand Up to Cancer           0.6/ 1    2.0/ 4    1.4/ 2    1.1/ 2    2.9/ 6
       MNT  The Academy             (R)  1.4/ 3    1.1/ 2    0.4/ 1    0.3/ 1    0.8/ 2
       ION  The 10th Kingdom        (R)  0.3/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0    0.5/ 1

 9:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  4.9/ 8    4.9/ 9    7.3/12    3.3/ 7    8.1/16
       CBS  CBS Fall Preview             1.8/ 3    1.3/ 2    2.6/ 4    0.8/ 2    1.2/ 2
       ABC  Amer Funn Home Videos   (R)  3.9/ 6    1.5/ 3    2.4/ 4^^  2.5/ 5    3.7/ 7
       NBC  NFL Opening Kickoff          0.9/ 2    1.2/ 2    1.5/ 2    1.1/ 2    1.1/ 2
       MNT  Paradise Hotel 2        (R)  0.6/ 1    0.7/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.4/ 1
       ION  Movie:Enslavement: F.Kemble  0.1/ 0    0.8/ 2    0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.7/ 1

 9:30  CBS  New Adv of Old Christine(R)  1.6/ 3    1.2/ 2    2.3/ 4    0.8/ 2    0.8/ 2

10:00  ABC  20/20                        6.5/11    4.8/ 9    4.3/ 7^^  4.4/ 9    6.9/13
       CBS  Swingtown                    1.5/ 3    0.8/ 1    1.4/ 2    1.2/ 3    2.5/ 5
       NBC  Dateline NBC                 2.3/ 4    3.2/ 6    2.7/ 4    1.9/ 4    2.8/ 5

        ^^  Combined rating of this market's two ABC affilates


                                           #16       #17       #18       #19       #20       #26
 Time  Net  Program                      MIA-FtL   CLE-Akr     DEN    ORL-Dyta  SAC-Stkn     IND
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 8:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  6.2/ 9    6.5/12    3.0/ 6    5.1/ 8    6.1/10    5.2/10
        CW  WWE Friday Night SmackDown!  3.5/ 5    2.5/ 4    1.3/ 2    3.2/ 5    2.0/ 3    2.2/ 4
       ABC  Stand Up to Cancer           2.8/ 4    1.9/ 3    1.8/ 4    5.9/10    2.1/ 3    1.9/ 3
       NBC  Stand Up to Cancer           1.8/ 3    2.8/ 5    2.1/ 4    3.1/ 5    3.7/ 6    5.5/10
       CBS  Stand Up to Cancer           2.3/ 3    1.7/ 3    1.4/ 3    1.9/ 3    1.1/ 2    1.9/ 3
       MNT  The Academy             (R)  1.3/ 2    0.8/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.6/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.2/ 0
       ION  The 10th Kingdom        (R)  0.1/ 0    0.4/ 1    0.9/ 2    0.1/ 0    1.0/ 2    0.2/ 0

 9:00  FOX  Smarter Than a 5th Grdr(SP)  6.9/10    7.8/13    5.1/ 9    5.9/ 9    6.9/11    8.3/14
       CBS  CBS Fall Preview             1.6/ 2    1.5/ 3    2.5/ 4    0.8/ 1    0.6/ 1    2.9/ 5
       ABC  Amer Funn Home Videos   (R)  -.-/--&   2.6/ 4    3.2/ 6    4.9/ 8    3.2/ 5    2.2/ 4
       NBC  NFL Opening Kickoff          1.6/ 2    1.2/ 2    2.0/ 4    2.4/ 4    1.3/ 2    3.3/ 5
       MNT  Paradise Hotel 2        (R)  0.7/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.1/ 0    0.1/ 0    0.3/ 0    0.2/ 0
       ION  Movie:Enslavement: F.Kemble  0.6/ 1    0.4/ 1    0.5/ 1    0.3/ 0    0.8/ 1    0.3/ 0

 9:30  CBS  New Adv of Old Christine(R)  1.4/ 2    1.3/ 2    1.9/ 3    1.4/ 2    1.0/ 2    2.8/ 5

10:00  ABC  20/20                        6.7/10    5.1/ 9    5.3/10    8.6/13    4.3/ 8    5.5/10
       CBS  Swingtown                    1.1/ 2    1.9/ 3    1.8/ 3    1.6/ 2    2.8/ 5    2.9/ 5
       NBC  Dateline NBC                 2.8/ 4    3.4/ 6    3.5/ 6    2.6/ 4    3.2/ 6    4.6/ 8

        &   Due to a local news special (3.8/6), this ABC program never aired
 
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                                           # 1       # 2       # 3       # 4       # 5
 Time  Net  Program                         NY        LA       CHI       PHI       DAL
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        CW  WWE Friday Night SmackDown!  1.7/ 3*   2.3/ 4    2.5/ 5    2.3/ 4    3.1/ 6

*   Due to MLB: PHI @ NYM (5.3/9), this CW program aired on Saturday


This explains the 500K drop in the final viewer number for Smackdown.
 
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