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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Don't encourage them.... you'll only make it worse.

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Originally posted by SW:
The worst thing is that he'll get x's hopes up. x might even try to get out of his remaining Cavemen viewing.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Dumont.... Are You Drunk!!!

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Originally posted by dumont:
Given the Nielsen doldrums that CBS is now dealing with, broadcasting those five unaired Viva Laughlins might actually help its weekly average if the show can deliver another 2.3 A18-49 number:


VIVA LAUGLIN Nielsen performance:
Thu.Oct.18, 10:01pm, ep.01 5.5HH/9%, 8.390m viewers (second), 2.3 A18-49 final
Sun.Oct.21, 8:00pm, ep.02 4.5HH/7%, 6.770m viewers, 1.2 A18-49 fast affiliate

Memo to Mr. Moonves: why not sked Viva Laughlin on Thursdays at 10 pm and try to win back the W18-34 demo that ABC's Big Shots keeps winning hands down?

Viva Laughlin started up a really interesting mystery for almost seven million viewers, and then it left us there, hanging, unsatisfied in the resolution we deserved, teased into a musical-dramatic odyssey that would never be unfolded.

I, like Miss Melanie Griffith, get the feeling I've been cheated.

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by bored striker:
I followed a Futurama writer and a garment worker into a strike (this is where I would put one of those winking smiley faces if I knew how)

Don't make fun of Futurama. It was and is better than all of the current FOX animated fare.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I hope it returns. I'd love to see how low it could go. Pair it with Big Brother after Jericho is done and I'll be set!

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Originally posted by wenart25:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by wenart25:
The WGA, which launched since-aborted talks with the AMPTP on July 16, has been out of contract since Oct. 31 and on strike since Nov. 5. The AMPTP has refused to negotiate further with the writers since Dec. 7, when it demanded the WGA remove demands including reality-TV and animation jurisdiction and the right to stage sympathy strikes.

This is the first I have heard about the WGA demanding the right to hold sympathy strikes. How could they have possibly expected to get that ok'ed when the other deals (DGA/SAG) were set to expire? If the WGA takes Reality TV and sympathy strike demands off the table, I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to proceed towards an end to the strike very soon.

I read that too and thought, the WGA negotiating team must be insane. There was no way the AMPTP would okay the sympathy strike. I agree. I think we will be seeing this strike end soon and I think one of those reasons is the Oscars coming up.

Peace!!

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
I hope it returns. I'd love to see how low it could go. Pair it with Big Brother after Jericho is done and I'll be set!

That would be the perfect night.
Lead off with Jericho, followed by Viva Laughlin, and closing with Cane.

A nightly average of about 5 million viewers and a 1.6 demo

Kind of sounds like ABC's Tuesday night results.

  
1/16/08 FINALS (Live + SD)
Net       Program                 Viewers      A1849      A2554
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CW        Crowned                 1,450,000    0.6/2      0.5/1
CW        Gossip Girl (R)         1,020,000    0.4/1      0.3/1

MNT       Whacked Out Videos      1,610,000    0.6/2      0.6/2
MNT       Whacked Out Videos      1,270,000    0.4/1      0.5/1
MNT       Pro Wrestling Exposed   1,380,000    0.5/1      0.5/1

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:

  
1/16/08 FINALS (Live + SD)
Net       Program                 Viewers      A1849      A2554
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CW        Crowned                 1,450,000    0.6/2      0.5/1
CW        Gossip Girl (R)         1,020,000    0.4/1      0.3/1

MNT       Whacked Out Videos      1,610,000    0.6/2      0.6/2
MNT       Whacked Out Videos      1,270,000    0.4/1      0.5/1
MNT       Pro Wrestling Exposed   1,380,000    0.5/1      0.5/1

Looks like MyTV took 5th place from CW on Wednesday.

CW averaged 1.24 million viewers and a 0.5 in the 18-49 demo
MyTV averaged 1.41 million viewers and a 0.5 in the same demo

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
Interesting how we're seeing more and more MNTV wins over CW. A couple decent shows averaging 3 million could start giving them weekly wins

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Wednesday 8 p.m.
American Idol (Fox) – Viewers: 30.28 million, A18-49: 15.5/36

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleAmericanGladiators:
The good news is that with Cashmere Mafia bombing, the likelyhood of Big Shots getting renewed skyrockets. Right now, CM is lucky to finish up what was filmed.

No chance of moving into a leadership position if all this crap is renewed. MIT should have been cancelled last season -- and there is no justification for returning marginal weak players, like WMC, PD and DSM.

You haven't mentioned SW -- which plummeted once it lost its Dancing lead-in. What they must do is rethink their entire program strategy if they hope to turn this ship around.

Neither show is returning. The shows that benefit from this show tanking are Pushing Daisies, Private Practice, and Dirty Sexy Money, all of which are more likely to return. Ditto for Men in Trees, which if it hits 7 million, will likely get at least another 13. I also think the likes of Wife Swap and Supernanny, which do very well away from Idol, will get renewed. Women's Murder Club as well because it pulls CBS-like audiences away from the eye on Fridays. All other returning shows will be back save for Jim, Notes, and October Road, which are goners. We may end up with Primetime getting a fall spot too.

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:
No keep the crappy Cane away from it. That show moves slower than the old folks who were watching it.

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Originally posted by samcat913:

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Originally posted by mushu_jj:

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Originally posted by WelcomeToK-VilleAmericanGladiators:
The good news is that with Cashmere Mafia bombing, the likelyhood of Big Shots getting renewed skyrockets. Right now, CM is lucky to finish up what was filmed.

No chance of moving into a leadership position if all this crap is renewed. MIT should have been cancelled last season -- and there is no justification for returning marginal weak players, like WMC, PD and DSM.

You haven't mentioned SW -- which plummeted once it lost its Dancing lead-in. What they must do is rethink their entire program strategy if they hope to turn this ship around.

Neither show is returning. The shows that benefit from this show tanking are Pushing Daisies, Private Practice, and Dirty Sexy Money, all of which are more likely to return. Ditto for Men in Trees, which if it hits 7 million, will likely get at least another 13. I also think the likes of Wife Swap and Supernanny, which do very well away from Idol, will get renewed. Women's Murder Club as well because it pulls CBS-like audiences away from the eye on Fridays. All other returning shows will be back save for Jim, Notes, and October Road, which are goners. We may end up with Primetime getting a fall spot too.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Dumont.... Are You Drunk!!!

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Originally posted by dumont:
Given the Nielsen doldrums that CBS is now dealing with, broadcasting those five unaired Viva Laughlins might actually help its weekly average if the show can deliver another 2.3 A18-49 number:


VIVA LAUGLIN Nielsen performance:
Thu.Oct.18, 10:01pm, ep.01 5.5HH/9%, 8.390m viewers (second), 2.3 A18-49 final
Sun.Oct.21, 8:00pm, ep.02 4.5HH/7%, 6.770m viewers, 1.2 A18-49 fast affiliate

Memo to Mr. Moonves: why not sked Viva Laughlin on Thursdays at 10 pm and try to win back the W18-34 demo that ABC's Big Shots keeps winning hands down?

Viva Laughlin started up a really interesting mystery for almost seven million viewers, and then it left us there, hanging, unsatisfied in the resolution we deserved, teased into a musical-dramatic odyssey that would never be unfolded.

I, like Miss Melanie Griffith, get the feeling I've been cheated.

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Originally posted by phaedre:

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Originally posted by wenart25:

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Originally posted by Obveeus:

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Originally posted by wenart25:
The WGA, which launched since-aborted talks with the AMPTP on July 16, has been out of contract since Oct. 31 and on strike since Nov. 5. The AMPTP has refused to negotiate further with the writers since Dec. 7, when it demanded the WGA remove demands including reality-TV and animation jurisdiction and the right to stage sympathy strikes.

This is the first I have heard about the WGA demanding the right to hold sympathy strikes. How could they have possibly expected to get that ok'ed when the other deals (DGA/SAG) were set to expire? If the WGA takes Reality TV and sympathy strike demands off the table, I see no reason why they shouldn't be able to proceed towards an end to the strike very soon.

I read that too and thought, the WGA negotiating team must be insane. There was no way the AMPTP would okay the sympathy strike. I agree. I think we will be seeing this strike end soon and I think one of those reasons is the Oscars coming up.

Peace!!

I wondered at the time if it was simply a negotiating tactic, that the WGA intended on backing off on these demands later on to appear to be giving in to the AMPTP. But that never happened - or had a chance to happen.