Originally posted by bored striker: I followed a Futurama writer and a garment worker into a strike (this is where I would put one of those winking smiley faces if I knew how)
Don't make fun of Futurama. It was and is better than all of the current FOX animated fare.
Originally posted by dumont: Given the Nielsen doldrums that CBS is now dealing with, broadcasting those five unaired Viva Laughlins might actually help its weekly average if the show can deliver another 2.3 A18-49 number:
The DGA and AMPTP have come to an agreement according to the Hollywood Reporter.
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The DGA has accomplished in six days what the WGA hasn't in six months: secured a deal from studio reps the guild says it can take to its members.
Whether WGA brass will feel similarly positive about the terms the DGA secured is another matter. But on Thursday, the directors announced a new three-year tentative agreement with the Alliance of Motion Picture of Motion Picture & Television Producers that would deliver:
-- Increases in wages and residual bases for each year of the contract.
-- DGA jurisdiction over programs produced for distribution on the Internet.
-- New residuals formula for paid Internet downloads (electronic sell-through) that essentially doubles the rate currently paid by employers.
-- Residual rates for ad-supported streaming and use of clips on the Internet.
Key new-media provisions appear substantial.
The agreement more than doubles the current residual on downloads of TV programming and boosts film residuals on downloads by 80%, officials said. A roughly $600 payment for ad-supported streaming kicks in after the first 17 days of streaming, followed by additional payments after 26 weeks totaling $1,200 for a year's worth of streaming.
"Two words describe this agreement -- groundbreaking and substantial," said Gil Cates, chair of the DGA's Negotiations Committee, in announcing the terms of the new agreement. "The gains in this contract for directors and their teams are extraordinary -- and there are no rollbacks of any kind."
The WGA, which launched since-aborted talks with the AMPTP on July 16, has been out of contract since Oct. 31 and on strike since Nov. 5. The AMPTP has refused to negotiate further with the writers since Dec. 7, when it demanded the WGA remove demands including reality-TV and animation jurisdiction and the right to stage sympathy strikes.
There was no immediate comment from the WGA on news of the DGA-AMPTP agreement.
Originally posted by dumont: I have a sense that MNT did beat The CW last night. Whacked Out Videos is capable of pulling about 1.3 million viewers, and most of these viewers don't crossover to American Idol.
If MNTV beats CW it will be the first time since New Year's Day. I tend to think that Whacked out Videos would have a crossover with American Idol, though - especially during the AI tryouts.
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The "Exposed Pro Wrestling Secrets Revealed" special is the wild card,
Agreed. Those wrestling fans are a 'cult', but if they found MNTV the show could set a ratings record.
MyNetworkTV did beat The CW on Thursday January 3, 2008 in the demo (0.90 to 0.85), and MyNetworkTV did indeed exceed The CW last night in viewers, averaging 1.4 million in the 8-9 pm hour for "Whacked Out Videos", and 1.4 million in the 9-10 pm hour with the "Exposed Pro Wrestling Secrets Revealed" special.
So far in 2008, in seven nights of head-to-head competition, it is:
SHOW HH A18-49 Viewers A18-34
WIFE SWAP 3.4/5 2.0/5 5,111,000
SUPERNANNY 4.1/6 2.4/6 6,040,000
CASHMERE MAFIA 3.8/6 2.2/6 5,458,000
POWER OF TEN 3.3/5 1.1/3 4,786,000
COMANCHE MOON 7.5/12 2.4/6 12,133,000
DEAL OR NO DEAL 7.6/12 3.0/8 11,807,000
LAW AND ORDER: CI 6.0/9 2.4/5 8,768,000
LAW AND ORDER 7.7/13 3.6/9 11,593,000
AMERICAN IDOL 16.7/25 12.6/30 30,437,000
CROWNED 1.0/2 0.6/2 1,449,000 0.6/2
PROJECT RUNWAY 2.2/4 1.9/5 3,342,000
... coming out of an Idol-weakened Supernanny, Cashmere Mafia held up surprisingly well week-to-week. Which isn't saying much, but still...
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FYI, summary details on the DGA deal can be found here.
It's definitely a starting point for the WGA. That the DGA got Distributor's Gross terms as well as access to the financial data in order to monitor the payments... that's really, really huge. And also two of the things the AMPTP told the WGA would have to be taken off the table for negotiations to continue on December 7th.
Though I'm sure there's plenty of fine print to be analyzed that the public hasn't been given access to yet.
1) As a percentage of Gross 2) On a "per download" Basis 3) as a lump sum per year?
Also, even though "Crowned" tanks in the ratings, it's really worth catching the last 10 minutes of this week's episode. Not since "All in the Family" has a domestic sound been so aptly used.
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Originally posted by dumont: Given the Nielsen doldrums that CBS is now dealing with, broadcasting those five unaired Viva Laughlins might actually help its weekly average if the show can deliver another 2.3 A18-49 number:
Memo to Mr. Moonves: why not sked Viva Laughlin on Thursdays at 10 pm and try to win back the W18-34 demo that ABC's Big Shots keeps winning hands down?
Viva Laughlin started up a really interesting mystery for almost seven million viewers, and then it left us there, hanging, unsatisfied in the resolution we deserved, teased into a musical-dramatic odyssey that would never be unfolded.
I, like Miss Melanie Griffith, get the feeling I've been cheated.
Originally posted by Elvis Bus: Are the residuals for downloads given:
1) As a percentage of Gross 2) On a "per download" Basis 3) as a lump sum per year?
As far as I can tell, residuals for downloads are paid (1) as a percentage of gross. The streaming (i.e. hulu.com, network websites, etc) payments seem to be (3) as a lump sum (though not necessarily per year).
OK... Any bets on how long it will be before the announcement that the writers strike is done???
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: FYI, summary details on the DGA deal can be found here.
It's definitely a starting point for the WGA. That the DGA got Distributor's Gross terms as well as access to the financial data in order to monitor the payments... that's really, really huge. And also two of the things the AMPTP told the WGA would have to be taken off the table for negotiations to continue on December 7th.
Though I'm sure there's plenty of fine print to be analyzed that the public hasn't been given access to yet.
The worst thing is that he'll get x's hopes up. x might even try to get out of his remaining Cavemen viewing.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Dumont.... Are You Drunk!!!
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Originally posted by dumont: Given the Nielsen doldrums that CBS is now dealing with, broadcasting those five unaired Viva Laughlins might actually help its weekly average if the show can deliver another 2.3 A18-49 number:
Memo to Mr. Moonves: why not sked Viva Laughlin on Thursdays at 10 pm and try to win back the W18-34 demo that ABC's Big Shots keeps winning hands down?
Viva Laughlin started up a really interesting mystery for almost seven million viewers, and then it left us there, hanging, unsatisfied in the resolution we deserved, teased into a musical-dramatic odyssey that would never be unfolded.
I, like Miss Melanie Griffith, get the feeling I've been cheated.
I doubt we'll even hear anything until tomorrow from the WGA about their analysis of the DGA terms. AMPTP has to come back to the table. They're free to now that they're done with the DGA and the studios have cut loose / force majeured overalls. I hate to make predictions, because it only serves to get my own hopes up, but I say this thing is done before the Oscars because there's real incentive for the studios to save that show.
DAMN YOU, OPTIMISM.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: OK... Any bets on how long it will be before the announcement that the writers strike is done???
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Originally posted by TravisYanan: FYI, summary details on the DGA deal can be found here.
It's definitely a starting point for the WGA. That the DGA got Distributor's Gross terms as well as access to the financial data in order to monitor the payments... that's really, really huge. And also two of the things the AMPTP told the WGA would have to be taken off the table for negotiations to continue on December 7th.
Though I'm sure there's plenty of fine print to be analyzed that the public hasn't been given access to yet.
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Don't encourage them.... you'll only make it worse.
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Originally posted by SW: The worst thing is that he'll get x's hopes up. x might even try to get out of his remaining Cavemen viewing.
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Originally posted by TV-aholic: Dumont.... Are You Drunk!!!
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Originally posted by dumont: Given the Nielsen doldrums that CBS is now dealing with, broadcasting those five unaired Viva Laughlins might actually help its weekly average if the show can deliver another 2.3 A18-49 number:
Memo to Mr. Moonves: why not sked Viva Laughlin on Thursdays at 10 pm and try to win back the W18-34 demo that ABC's Big Shots keeps winning hands down?
Viva Laughlin started up a really interesting mystery for almost seven million viewers, and then it left us there, hanging, unsatisfied in the resolution we deserved, teased into a musical-dramatic odyssey that would never be unfolded.
I, like Miss Melanie Griffith, get the feeling I've been cheated.
We hope that this agreement with DGA will signal the beginning of the end of this extremely difficult period for our industry. Today, we invite the Writers Guild of America to engage with us in a series of informal discussions similar to the productive process that led us to a deal with the DGA to determine whether there is a reasonable basis for returning to formal bargaining. We look forward to these discussions, and to the day when our entire industry gets back to work.
