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And the Crime Dramas will NEVER win a important award.

At least NBC/ABC and even Fox make business with awards


Is this a joke? (sorry for the repetition)

Who cares about those awards?
 
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I think the 0.16 gap between ABC and NBC is small enough to be made up by the Oscars this Sunday. ABC should also have an above average Monday with the movie "A Raisin in the Sun." However, I wish they would do anything other than their regular schedule this upcoming Tuesday -- a new theatrical, a 20/20 special, anything!


Here's my recommendation for this upcoming Tuesday: move up the premiere of Primetime: What Would You Do? by a week, which is currently scheduled to go to the Tues 10pm slot on March 4, and add a special airing of 20/20 @ 9pm. At 8pm, I guess they can keep 1 ep of Just for Laughs and 1 ep of According to Jim, if they must, but I would personally try a rerun of Women's Murder Club to see how it does against AI: crime dramas seem to do best opposite AI, as NCIS can attest, and I'm sure WMC would do better than the 4 million or so viewers Just For Laughs typically gets. But definitely the 20/20-Primetime combo can be easily accomplished and should show a moderate improvement than their usual fare.

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Why is NBC desperate to FNL? Are they blackmailed by someone?
 
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NBC seems to care about appeasing the Critics more than any other network for some reason.

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Why is NBC desperate to FNL? Are they blackmailed by someone?


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Is this a joke? (sorry for the repetition)

Who cares about those awards?


Every single person who works in the TV biz.

Okay, maybe not David Simon.

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Why is NBC desperate to FNL? Are they blackmailed by someone?


NBC really, really wants Friday Night Lights to continue, just not on their network...or even their 'sister station' USA.
Seems to me like NBC is just trying to show that they tried to save it before 'having' to cancel it. That way, they avoid the 'nuts'.
 
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Is this a joke? (sorry for the repetition)

Who cares about those awards?


Every single person who works in the TV biz.

Okay, maybe not David Simon.

Wink

He got a Peabody, it's better than everything else.

Although for the ratings, it is even less relevant than most other awards.


 
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From Marc's newsletter:

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Prime-Time Metered Market Wednesday Ratings:
Idol Rules, Soft Start for Top Model Season Opener

Wednesday 2/20/08

Household Rating/Share
Fox: 16.6/25, NBC: 6.5/10, CBS: 4.6/ 7, ABC: 3.9/ 6, CW: 2.4/ 4

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-Percent Change From the Year-Ago Evening (Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2007)
NBC: +30, CW: +14, Fox: - 8, ABC: -25, CBS: -44

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Note: The fast affiliate results for Wednesday will be posted at PIFeedback by 12 p.m. ET. Go to the website, click on Ratings Box (the first category), then Last Night’s Results, and Wednesday, Feb. 20, 2008.

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-Yesterday’s Winners:
American Idol (Fox)

-Honorable Mention:
Law & Order (NBC)

-Yesterday’s Losers (Excluding Repeats):
Big Brother 9 (CBS), Wife Swap (ABC), Cashmere Mafia (ABC)

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-Ratings Breakdown:
With American Idol on board there is no stopping Fox, which beat the Big 3 networks combined on this February sweeps Wednesday (does anyone even know this is a sweeps period?). American Idol averaged a stellar 16.6 rating/25 share in the overnights from 8-10 p.m., building by half hour as follows:

American Idol (Fox)
8:00 p.m. 14.7/23
8:30 p.m. 16.4/25
9:00 p.m. 17.5/26
9:30 p.m. 17.8/27

As for this first night of female competition, my picks to get the boot tonight: Joanne Borgella and Amy Davis. For more on American Idol, listen to today’s PIPodcast at www.marcberman.tv.
NBC finished in the distant No. 2 spot with its combination of Deal or No Deal (#2: 6.1/ 9), Law & Order: Criminal Intent (#2: 5.7/ 8) and Law & Order (#1: 7.9/13). Considering that Law & Order faced a repeat of CBS’ CSI: NY (5.3/ 9), the overnight results could have been better.

CBS’ winter edition of Big Brother remains a bust, with a fourth-place 3.3/ 5 from 8-9 p.m. Personally, I do not think the couples concept works, particularly with this lackluster combination of people. Big Brother led into a repeat of Criminal Minds at a third-place 5.2/ 8 in the overnights at 9 p.m., followed by the aforementioned CSI: NY encore at a second-place 5.3/ 9 at 10 p.m.

In season-premiere news, the CW’s golden goose, America’s Next Top Model, got off to a modest start, with a last-place 3.1/ 5 at 8 p.m. Although there should be interest among the target young females, comparatively this was down by 16 percent in the overnights from its fall season-premiere on Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2007 (3.7/ 6). Top Model led into a repeat of Pussycat Dolls Present: Girlicious at a 1.8/ 3 (#5) from 9-10 p.m., which beat its original telecast on Monday (1.6/ 2) by 12 percent.

ABC capped off the evening with its line-up of Wife Swap (#3: 3.7/ 5), which has taken a big hit opposite American Idol, Supernanny (#4: 4.4/ 7), which always manages to spark some interest among adults 18-49, and dud Cashmere Mafia (#3: 3.6/ 6). If anyone is interested in a good dramedy about four female friends, Sex and the City comes out on the big screen in May.

Source: Nielsen Media Research data
 
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How appropriate that it may end up also being on The CW.
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http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Bl...ops-Friday/800033809


Why is NBC desperate to FNL? Are they blackmailed by someone?


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He got a Peabody, it's better than everything else.

Although for the ratings, it is even less relevant than most other awards.


It's a prestigious award, but not a COMPETITIVE award. They can give out as many or few as they like. Purely merit-based. That's why PD will never get one. Big Grin

One point Simon has wanted to make with this season of The Wire is that when professionals are endlessly striving for awards, it corrupts their work. Awards should never be the primary goal, because they're meaningless--the only thing worth having in life is a loving and stable family, a few lifelong friends, and the knowledge that you've done a job that matters to the best of your ability.

Oh, and a nice dog. Butchie had a nice dog who could kill rats bigger than him, and be a decoy on sting operations, so Butchie could die without regrets. And you ask me, the only disappointment about this final season of The Wire is that we didn't get to see Junk take a piece out of Chris & Snoop's asses.

But how many people in the entertainment biz have all that (and geez, how many people in any line of work?). And anyway, you can't hold those things in your hand on a stage while pumping your fist, and thanking your agent.

Awards are very seductive, because they offer the APPEARANCE of a lasting achievement. You can't prove your life's work made the world a better place, let alone made your name immortal. But you can have a statue for your mantelpiece, or a plaque for your wall, and that says you did something.

Only if you need that proof you did something, you probably didn't do anything.

Oscars and Emmys are the most prestigious not because they invariably go to the best film or show, but because they signify entertainment professionals choosing this particular person over his or her peers. It's a popularity contest, and in such a small incestuous community as Hollywood, peer approval really REALLY matters, as Sally Field could easily tell you.

David Simon is outside that world--he chose to keep himself apart from it, to spend most of his career working in a town that doesn't even rate its own CSI show.

Weirdo.

Big Grin
 
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People will NEVER get tired of crime dramas. It's by far the most reliable genre. And CBs did a great choice by becoming a crime drama network. They'll never be in the NBC kind of trouble. By the way i've heard that trouble will come for CBS for a long time. Maybe you can tell us more exactly when the trouble will come.


Well, it's not exactly going well for them right now.


Is this a joke?


They may still have a good chunk of total viewers, but they're demo is really struggling. I suspect they'll compete with NBC for third in the demo this spring.
Their demo is down because of the writers strike and 95% of thier schedule is in repeats.

Once the new episodes start hitting (Before the other nets mind you), The demo number will start heading back up.


But the consensus was that they would be least affected by the strike because their shows, being in repoeats, were stike-proof (repeats wouldn't effect viewership).


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How appropriate that it may end up also being on The CW.
Is there really any reason to believe that FNL could end up on CW? Why would CW (or half owner CBS) want to help out an NBC aired and produced show?
 
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Law & Order (#1: 7.9/13). Considering that Law & Order faced a repeat of CBS’ CSI: NY (5.3/ 9), the overnight results could have been better.


Marc, can a day go by where you don't unjustifiably blast NBC? Today you say Law and Order should have done better. It's overnight rating was 50% higher than CSI:NY. It grew from its lead in by 40%. And with other networks you love to give praise comparing results to prior year results. One year ago in the comparable week Law and Order's overnight results was a 5.9 (granted this was on a Friday). Which was a gain of about 35%. And if you compare Law and Order to last years time period holder, Medium, it was also a huge improvement (don't have the number, but I know it was a huge gain).

For some reason we always hear praise for FOXs shows on Thursdays b/c of huge year to year improvement, but that same reasoning does not hold for NBC.

When will you get over your hatred towards NBC and report on a level playing field?
 
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From Marc's newsletter:

In season-premiere news, the CW’s golden goose, America’s Next Top Model, got off to a modest start, with a last-place 3.1/ 5 at 8 p.m. Although there should be interest among the target young females, comparatively this was down by 16 percent in the overnights from its fall season-premiere on Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2007 (3.7/ 6).
Not sure what to make of these numbers. Are they 16% lower than last season's premiere on sept. 19th or 16% lower than the already lower followup wek on Sept. 26th? Either way, the Idol female singer competition is the toughest competition for viewers that ANTM could possibly face.
 
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But the consensus was that they would be least affected by the strike because their shows, being in repoeats, were stike-proof (repeats wouldn't effect viewership).
CBS certainly spent less money than FOX/NBC/ABC to weather the strike. Until the rest of the season plays out, I don't think we can determine if that approach hurt them in the long term.
 
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