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quote: Originally posted by dumont:
Joey was comedy done right.
I honestly only viewed about 2 episodes and not even the whole thing. It was somewhat bland, but it had potential. By November season two, NBC had pretty much given up on it I think believing that if it wasn't going to be a monster hit, they didn't want it (I'm sure it wasn't cheap). However, I think LeBlanc would've taken a pay cut since he's done nothing since and perhaps relaunching elsewhere on the lineup would've been a final test.
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This is one of the worst mishandling of a show I have ever seen. quote: Originally posted by Walter:
Its really sad that Men in Trees is done.
I tell ya ABC can be really stupid sometimes.
The frist season was getting 11 million viewers. But ABC had to move it around so much nobody knew when it was on and that made the ratings go down.
Nice ABC, Nice
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I might be in the minority with this view, but I like the idea of Justin hooking up with Rebecca eventually. So when Rebecca becomes Justin's wife, she'll then actually be a Walker, even with Nora's blessing! quote: Originally posted by TravisYanan:
I can't believe next week is already the season finale of Brothers & Sisters... I have my issues with the faux-incest storyline, but the way it (as well as the Ojai financial crisis) resounded through the entire family's lives... wonderful. I wonder if next week will have Sarah regretting making Holly Chairwoman & CEO of the merged company once it becomes more known that Rebecca isn't a Walker.
 Some of you have requested market data for the nights since September 26. I have "Top 25" market data (including NFL Sunday, ION network, and late night talk shows) but I will NOT post them here unless 1 of the 2 following scenarios occur:So, c'mon forum - using the words of Project Runway's Tim Gunn, let's "make it work!"  Before Jeopardy's Ken Jennings, there was Thom McKee on Tic Tac Dough. Watch his amazing run on GSN weekday mornings at 9am/8am central |
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Yeah ABC must have had something against this show. It was actually a good show. shame on ABC
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What else would you suspect from ABC? How many shows currently on the air or that aired in the past two seasons haven't been mishandled. Even Greys Anatomy got the quick slip one week as they scheduled a last minute new episode. Boston Legal suffers from monthly preemptions for unnecessary news specials that could be used elsewhere (like Fridays). I thought the decision to hold off new Brothers and Sisters eps for sweeps was dumb and should've aired its new eps in January when viewers had it on their radar yet. Then we have the constant renewing of According to Jim and decision to air new episodes on low hut holiday nights. The peopel currently in charge are keeping their jobs based on 4 big hits: Greys, Housewives, Dancing, and Lost. Sure they have modest other performers but without those four, ABC would be in trouble and when those shows are gone (all will decline considerably or be gone within 5 seasons) I have feeling these executives will not have replacements because while they can launch new stuff pretty effectively, they are very unstable when it comes to programming. In fact, I think they resemble Fox of four years ago (just ask fans of Bernie Mac how that all went down). quote: Originally posted by Marc Berman: This is one of the worst mishandling of a show I have ever seen. quote: Originally posted by Walter:
Its really sad that Men in Trees is done.
I tell ya ABC can be really stupid sometimes.
The frist season was getting 11 million viewers. But ABC had to move it around so much nobody knew when it was on and that made the ratings go down.
Nice ABC, Nice
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quote: Originally posted by robert:
Here are two quotes from hollyoodreporter
"Shark": Another network might be inclined to give this drama another chance, but CBS sets a high ratings bar for pickups and "Shark" has a tough time clearing it. Industry oddsmakers are pessimistic about a fall return.
Moonlight": Since returning post-strike, "Moonlight" remains the weakest link in CBS' Friday night lineup. Yet the vampire drama continues to win its time period. A pickup is all but certain.
This is the one of the most illogical things i've ever red. So CBS sets a high bar, so high that a 10 million show is canceled and a 7 million renwed (in demos both do pretty much the same)
There is no way in the Nielsen high heavens that Shark would ever pull in 10 million viewers on low-HUT Friday nights and win its time period in A18-49 almost every week as Moonlight has accomplished. Shark has had two years to prove itself in cushy time periods following CBS hits on high-HUT nights of the week, and the Nielsen jury has never embraced this show. If CBS renews it, it is only because the development cupboard is empty of alternatives. |
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I think Shark would do exactly the same as Moonlight on Friday. quote: Originally posted by dumont: quote: Originally posted by robert:
Here are two quotes from hollyoodreporter
"Shark": Another network might be inclined to give this drama another chance, but CBS sets a high ratings bar for pickups and "Shark" has a tough time clearing it. Industry oddsmakers are pessimistic about a fall return.
Moonlight": Since returning post-strike, "Moonlight" remains the weakest link in CBS' Friday night lineup. Yet the vampire drama continues to win its time period. A pickup is all but certain.
This is the one of the most illogical things i've ever red. So CBS sets a high bar, so high that a 10 million show is canceled and a 7 million renwed (in demos both do pretty much the same)
There is no way in the Nielsen high heavens that Shark would ever pull in 10 million viewers on low-HUT Friday nights and win its time period in A18-49 almost every week as Moonlight has accomplished. Shark has had two years to prove itself in cushy time periods following CBS hits on high-HUT nights of the week, and the Nielsen jury has never embraced this show. If CBS renews it, it is only because the development cupboard is empty of alternatives.
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quote: Originally posted by dumont: quote: Originally posted by robert:
Here are two quotes from hollyoodreporter
"Shark": Another network might be inclined to give this drama another chance, but CBS sets a high ratings bar for pickups and "Shark" has a tough time clearing it. Industry oddsmakers are pessimistic about a fall return.
Moonlight": Since returning post-strike, "Moonlight" remains the weakest link in CBS' Friday night lineup. Yet the vampire drama continues to win its time period. A pickup is all but certain.
This is the one of the most illogical things i've ever red. So CBS sets a high bar, so high that a 10 million show is canceled and a 7 million renwed (in demos both do pretty much the same)
There is no way in the Nielsen high heavens that Shark would ever pull in 10 million viewers on low-HUT Friday nights and win its time period in A18-49 almost every week as Moonlight has accomplished. Shark has had two years to prove itself in cushy time periods following CBS hits on high-HUT nights of the week, and the Nielsen jury has never embraced this show. If CBS renews it, it is only because the development cupboard is empty of alternatives.
I agree with dumont on this one. While its total audience would probably crush Moonlight's, the 18-49 would do no better. Shark should've been left after CSI for another nurturing year. While Moonlight doesn't deserve renewal either (especially with several Friday-worthy pilots in production), it does have better demos for the slot its in.
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quote: Originally posted by Marc Berman:
I think Shark would do exactly the same as Moonlight on Friday.
And thats not good enough and while I personally find the show enjoyable, it does not fit the Ghost Whisperer crowd at all. Shark's last chance is this week. Its a make or break situation. It may be able to pull off a midseason deal if its lucky. CSI will likely be launching new stuff this fall so the Unit and WAT could be what fills Tuesdays at 10.
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quote: Originally posted by total eclipse:
Desperate Housewives hasn't recovered at all, and 16.6 isn't exactly "hefty" in comparison to what it used to be.
I'm glad to see Cold Case is still holding steady, but I must comment about last night's ep: I think a new record has been broken. 20 minutes into the show I already knew exactly who the killer was and why they did it. All that was left for me to do is yawn my way to the great "discovery" in the last few minutes. The writers need to wake up and for next season, come up with less predictable plots.
And the 10p soap Brothers and Sisters is hardly "must-see" nor is it "dominating". If CBS / NBC come up with a decent competition, B&S (or as I call it, BS) is a goner. Watching this makes me miss Dynasty.
What are you talking about "Desperate Housewives isn't what it used to be?" Last year, on 5.06.07, it skewed 16.92 million viewers, and a 6.5 in the demo. That's nothing major in year to year drops. If anything, that's good, it didn't even drop a million. |
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quote: Originally posted by Zedman2: quote: Originally posted by Frazier:
Last night's BROTHERS AND SISTERS would have been an excellent season finale. Can't wait to see it next week!
BTW, the show's season finale is ending a week before sweeps, if I'm not mistaken. It would've made sense if ABC had not burned those 2 episodes in February and saved them for this May sweeps period.
Also with regards to SCRUBS, I think that because the show is already in syndication, the network studios makes even more money by creating more episodes of a show that has already reached syndication (which is why ACCORDING TO JIM keeps haunting us).
ABC had planned a 2 hour Desperate Housewives season finale for the final Sunday of sweeps. If they held back one of the pre-stike shows that aired in February, then B&S would have joined LOST, Ugly Betty, and Grey's Anatomy as series airing their season finales outside of sweeps.
In my gut, I still believe that Mr. McPherson has a secret 'Plan B' schedule to unfold should the Sweep race prove tight (which it is), whether he thinks American Idol is vulnerable to going head-to-head with Dancing and Lost, and depending upon whether the producers of Lost / Greys Anatomy can get their two-hour finale episodes mixed in time. If I am right, the final four nights of the Sweep will be as follows: ABC, Week Four of Sweep, 'Plan B' ================================= Sun.May.18 ---------- 7 pm - Extreme Home Makeover (2 hour season finale) 9 pm - Desperate Housewives (2 hour season finale) Mon.May.19 8 pm - Dancing with the Stars 9 pm - The Bachelor (2 hour season finale) Tue.May.20 8 pm - Dancing with the Stars (2 hour finale) -> moved one hour earlier 10 pm - Grey's Anatomy, Part 1 (first part of 2 hour finale) -> replaces Dancing with the Stars encore at 8 pm Wed.May.21 8 pm - Lost (2 hour finale) -> replaces 2 hour Lost encore 10 pm - Grey's Anatomy, Part 2 (second part of 2 hour finale) -> replaces Boston Legal season finale which gets bumped to following week If ABC finishes Week 3 of the May Sweep within a few decimals of FOX in A18-49, this final four day schock and awe could be the Alphabet's decisive edge in giving ABC its first May Sweep victory of the 21st Century (the closest ABC came before was its second place 5.4 to NBC's 5.5 in the heady Millionaire days of May 2000). If Mr. McPherson can pull off a May Sweep victory against FOX, watch for him to be carried into the affiliate get-together atop the shoulders of ABC affiliates when they meet later this summer. |
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quote: Originally posted by Justin: quote: Originally posted by total eclipse:
Desperate Housewives hasn't recovered at all, and 16.6 isn't exactly "hefty" in comparison to what it used to be.
I'm glad to see Cold Case is still holding steady, but I must comment about last night's ep: I think a new record has been broken. 20 minutes into the show I already knew exactly who the killer was and why they did it. All that was left for me to do is yawn my way to the great "discovery" in the last few minutes. The writers need to wake up and for next season, come up with less predictable plots.
And the 10p soap Brothers and Sisters is hardly "must-see" nor is it "dominating". If CBS / NBC come up with a decent competition, B&S (or as I call it, BS) is a goner. Watching this makes me miss Dynasty.
What are you talking about "Desperate Housewives isn't what it used to be?" Last year, on 5.06.07, it skewed 16.92 million viewers, and a 6.5 in the demo. That's nothing major in year to year drops. If anything, that's good, it didn't even drop a million.
It's even more impressive when you consider there would be a statistical drop because of the increase in dvr use from 13% to 24% year over year.
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quote: Originally posted by dumont: quote: Originally posted by Zedman2: quote: Originally posted by Frazier:
Last night's BROTHERS AND SISTERS would have been an excellent season finale. Can't wait to see it next week!
BTW, the show's season finale is ending a week before sweeps, if I'm not mistaken. It would've made sense if ABC had not burned those 2 episodes in February and saved them for this May sweeps period.
Also with regards to SCRUBS, I think that because the show is already in syndication, the network studios makes even more money by creating more episodes of a show that has already reached syndication (which is why ACCORDING TO JIM keeps haunting us).
ABC had planned a 2 hour Desperate Housewives season finale for the final Sunday of sweeps. If they held back one of the pre-stike shows that aired in February, then B&S would have joined LOST, Ugly Betty, and Grey's Anatomy as series airing their season finales outside of sweeps.
In my gut, I still believe that Mr. McPherson has a secret 'Plan B' schedule to unfold should the Sweep race prove tight (which it is), whether he thinks American Idol is vulnerable to going head-to-head with Dancing and Lost, and depending upon whether the producers of Lost / Greys Anatomy can get their two-hour finale episodes mixed in time. If I am right, the final four nights of the Sweep will be as follows: ABC, Week Four of Sweep, 'Plan B' ================================= Sun.May.18 ---------- 7 pm - Extreme Home Makeover (2 hour season finale) 9 pm - Desperate Housewives (2 hour season finale) Mon.May.19 8 pm - Dancing with the Stars 9 pm - The Bachelor (2 hour season finale) Tue.May.20 8 pm - Dancing with the Stars (2 hour finale) -> moved one hour earlier 10 pm - Grey's Anatomy, Part 1 (first part of 2 hour finale) -> replaces Dancing with the Stars encore at 8 pm Wed.May.21 8 pm - Lost (2 hour finale) -> replaces 2 hour Lost encore 10 pm - Grey's Anatomy, Part 2 (second part of 2 hour finale) -> replaces Boston Legal season finale which gets bumped to following week If ABC finishes Week 3 of the May Sweep within a few decimals of FOX in A18-49, this final four day schock and awe could be the Alphabet's decisive edge in giving ABC its first May Sweep victory of the 21st Century (the closest ABC came before was its second place 5.4 to NBC's 5.5 in the heady Millionaire days of May 2000). If Mr. McPherson can pull off a May Sweep victory against FOX, watch for him to be carried into the affiliate get-together atop the shoulders of ABC affiliates when they meet later this summer.
From what i've gathered, post-production on the 2-hr LOST season finale won't be finished till May 22nd at the earliest and that according to sitcomsonline is a direct quote from Mr. McPherson.
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quote: Originally posted by Zedman2: quote: Originally posted by Justin: quote: Originally posted by total eclipse:
Desperate Housewives hasn't recovered at all, and 16.6 isn't exactly "hefty" in comparison to what it used to be.
I'm glad to see Cold Case is still holding steady, but I must comment about last night's ep: I think a new record has been broken. 20 minutes into the show I already knew exactly who the killer was and why they did it. All that was left for me to do is yawn my way to the great "discovery" in the last few minutes. The writers need to wake up and for next season, come up with less predictable plots.
And the 10p soap Brothers and Sisters is hardly "must-see" nor is it "dominating". If CBS / NBC come up with a decent competition, B&S (or as I call it, BS) is a goner. Watching this makes me miss Dynasty.
What are you talking about "Desperate Housewives isn't what it used to be?" Last year, on 5.06.07, it skewed 16.92 million viewers, and a 6.5 in the demo. That's nothing major in year to year drops. If anything, that's good, it didn't even drop a million.
It's even more impressive when you consider there would be a statistical drop because of the increase in dvr use from 13% to 24% year over year.
Completely agree.
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quote: Originally posted by Zedman2: quote: Originally posted by dumont: quote: Originally posted by Zedman2: quote: Originally posted by Frazier:
Last night's BROTHERS AND SISTERS would have been an excellent season finale. Can't wait to see it next week!
BTW, the show's season finale is ending a week before sweeps, if I'm not mistaken. It would've made sense if ABC had not burned those 2 episodes in February and saved them for this May sweeps period.
Also with regards to SCRUBS, I think that because the show is already in syndication, the network studios makes even more money by creating more episodes of a show that has already reached syndication (which is why ACCORDING TO JIM keeps haunting us).
ABC had planned a 2 hour Desperate Housewives season finale for the final Sunday of sweeps. If they held back one of the pre-stike shows that aired in February, then B&S would have joined LOST, Ugly Betty, and Grey's Anatomy as series airing their season finales outside of sweeps.
In my gut, I still believe that Mr. McPherson has a secret 'Plan B' schedule to unfold should the Sweep race prove tight (which it is), whether he thinks American Idol is vulnerable to going head-to-head with Dancing and Lost, and depending upon whether the producers of Lost / Greys Anatomy can get their two-hour finale episodes mixed in time. If I am right, the final four nights of the Sweep will be as follows: ABC, Week Four of Sweep, 'Plan B' ================================= Sun.May.18 ---------- 7 pm - Extreme Home Makeover (2 hour season finale) 9 pm - Desperate Housewives (2 hour season finale) Mon.May.19 8 pm - Dancing with the Stars 9 pm - The Bachelor (2 hour season finale) Tue.May.20 8 pm - Dancing with the Stars (2 hour finale) -> moved one hour earlier 10 pm - Grey's Anatomy, Part 1 (first part of 2 hour finale) -> replaces Dancing with the Stars encore at 8 pm Wed.May.21 8 pm - Lost (2 hour finale) -> replaces 2 hour Lost encore 10 pm - Grey's Anatomy, Part 2 (second part of 2 hour finale) -> replaces Boston Legal season finale which gets bumped to following week If ABC finishes Week 3 of the May Sweep within a few decimals of FOX in A18-49, this final four day schock and awe could be the Alphabet's decisive edge in giving ABC its first May Sweep victory of the 21st Century (the closest ABC came before was its second place 5.4 to NBC's 5.5 in the heady Millionaire days of May 2000). If Mr. McPherson can pull off a May Sweep victory against FOX, watch for him to be carried into the affiliate get-together atop the shoulders of ABC affiliates when they meet later this summer.
From what i've gathered, post-production on the 2-hr LOST season finale won't be finished till May 22nd at the earliest and that according to sitcomsonline is a direct quote from Mr. McPherson.
Mere disinformation to lull Mr. Reilly into a state of complacency. |
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