I think Fear itself is a good show, I mean the production values are pretty good. But I think it suffers from the episodes being self-contained. I mean, people aren't going to stick around just for the scares, they need an emotional connection with a character, and the show doesn't provide characters to love, or at least characters to love to hate.

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Supernatural (Viewers: 1.92 million; A18-49: 0.6/ 2), which will not benefit once Smallville ends.[QUOTE]

I don't know Marc. I think Supernatural has outgrown it's dependence on Smallville and I don't feel it will matter either way. Supernatural may survive or not, but I don't think the absence of Smallville will have either positive or negative effect on Supernatural.

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Originally posted by A.C.:
SWINGTOWN having the most viewers in the hour has to count for something. I still think its worthy of a return during the summer only.

I agree,

Being Number 1 in the Timeslot is a good thing.

I personaly love the show.

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
Fear Itself had its best episode yet last night. Too bad NBC didnt air that episode first. Ratings wise; it's consistant but weak. However it did manage to build out of its horrible lead, Last Comic Standing, both in viewers and demo. Not horrible IMO.

While last night was the first time that Fear Itself improved on its Last Comic Standing lead-in in the A18-49 demo, it has built on Last Comic in each of its three weeks in viewers.

Fear Itself was simply superb last night, with a truly Serlingesque twist ending.

Why doesn't the CW air Reaper on Thursdays over the summer? At least to shake things up. It's great that CBS is airing Monday comedies on Thursday especially for those who have never seen the show -- so I do see it as a benefit. And it's actually beating the office.

I didn't like the first ep of Fear itself so did not return, anyone else been watching and think the quality has gotten better?

For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

Anyone psyched about Get smart opening today?!

The King of Queens did not do as well on Wednesdays as it did on Mondays, and that is why it only aired a few times on Wednesdays and then moved back to Mondays.

Don't get too excited about CBS comedies on Thursdays. Only two more weeks, and then Great American Dog gets that time slot.

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
Why doesn't the CW air Reaper on Thursdays over the summer? At least to shake things up. It's great that CBS is airing Monday comedies on Thursday especially for those who have never seen the show -- so I do see it as a benefit. And it's actually beating the office.

I didn't like the first ep of Fear itself so did not return, anyone else been watching and think the quality has gotten better?

For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

Anyone psyched about Get smart opening today?!

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Originally posted by dumont:

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Originally posted by yankeesrj12:
Fear Itself had its best episode yet last night. Too bad NBC didnt air that episode first. Ratings wise; it's consistant but weak. However it did manage to build out of its horrible lead, Last Comic Standing, both in viewers and demo. Not horrible IMO.

While last night was the first time that Fear Itself improved on its Last Comic Standing lead-in in the A18-49 demo, it has built on Last Comic in each of its three weeks in viewers.

Fear Itself was simply superb last night, with a truly Serlingesque twist ending.

Yet, according to The Futoncritic, it dropped in the demo at 10:30 while Swingtown went up.

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

I went back and looked, and you are totally wrong on King of Queens. It did about 8-8.5 million and a 2.8 or so demo on Wednesdays and 12-13 million and a demo in the 4's on Mondays. Yes, it did do okay compared to all comedies, but it was a shadow of itself on Wednesdays. As stated many times, CBS sitcoms always do worse on other nights. King of Queens just started at higher numbers, so its numbers were okay, but not as good as it usually was, and that is why it was quickly moved back to Mondays. These numbers were from last January and February before DWTS came to Mondays and knocked down all CBS sitcom ratings.

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
Why doesn't the CW air Reaper on Thursdays over the summer? At least to shake things up.

Shaking things up is not a smart idea. The idea is to 'program' the viewers into tuning in for a particular show and finding it there. Viewers have shown an inability (or at leats limited ability) to adapt to timeslot changes. Since Smallville and Supernatural will be on Thursdays in the Fall, it doesn't make sense to air Reaper there 'just for the fun of it'.

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It's great that CBS is airing Monday comedies on Thursday especially for those who have never seen the show -- so I do see it as a benefit. And it's actually beating the office.

They have to air something there and Survivor repeats are not the answer. Notice that CBS has not stopped airing the Monday comedies on Monday.

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I didn't like the first ep of Fear itself so did not return, anyone else been watching and think the quality has gotten better?

For whatever reason, people keep tuning in over and over again, but most of what I have read on other message boards has indicated that every episode has stunk. I quit watching after the first as NBC chose that episode to represent the best the show had to offer.

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For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

Wednesday comedy will be an uphill battle. Wednesday 8pm is just not a big TV viewing slot. The biggest thing CBS has going for it at the moment is that those SAG nuts seem intent on striking. If they do, Project Gary on CBS will be one of the few shows with continuing first run episodes.

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Anyone psyched about Get smart opening today?!

Not me. It looks absolutely horrible.

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

I went back and looked, and you are totally wrong on King of Queens. It did about 8-8.5 million and a 2.8 or so demo on Wednesdays and 12-13 million and a demo in the 4's on Mondays. Yes, it did do okay compared to all comedies, but it was a shadow of itself on Wednesdays. As stated many times, CBS sitcoms always do worse on other nights. King of Queens just started at higher numbers, so its numbers were okay, but not as good as it usually was, and that is why it was quickly moved back to Mondays. These numbers were from last January and February before DWTS came to Mondays and knocked down all CBS sitcom ratings.

The last time CBS did acceptable, yet not outstanding, on Wednesdays was the pair of King of Queens and Becker which only lasted a year. Other than that The Nanny was the only real successful Wednesday comedy series for CBS. If anyone has noticed, CBS Wednesdays used to be pretty week until CSI: NY came along and used to skew around 19 million, but now, it's fading quickly.

I agree. Unless, you put a powerhouse show like King of Queens was on Wednesdays they probably will suffer. I hardly consider Old Christine the anchor that will be the answer to the Wednesday difficulties.

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Originally posted by Justin:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

I went back and looked, and you are totally wrong on King of Queens. It did about 8-8.5 million and a 2.8 or so demo on Wednesdays and 12-13 million and a demo in the 4's on Mondays. Yes, it did do okay compared to all comedies, but it was a shadow of itself on Wednesdays. As stated many times, CBS sitcoms always do worse on other nights. King of Queens just started at higher numbers, so its numbers were okay, but not as good as it usually was, and that is why it was quickly moved back to Mondays. These numbers were from last January and February before DWTS came to Mondays and knocked down all CBS sitcom ratings.

The last time CBS did acceptable, yet not outstanding, on Wednesdays was the pair of King of Queens and Becker which only lasted a year. Other than that The Nanny was the only real successful Wednesday comedy series for CBS. If anyone has noticed, CBS Wednesdays used to be pretty week until CSI: NY came along and used to skew around 19 million, but now, it's fading quickly.

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Originally posted by TV-aholic:
Perhaps reairing the 1st season of Survivor might spark a little interest over the summer.

Is this a joke? CBS won't air a show with no repeat value instead of shows for which repeats barely dip.

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Originally posted by Twins12:
I agree. Unless, you put a powerhouse show like King of Queens was on Wednesdays they probably will suffer. I hardly consider Old Christine the anchor that will be the answer to the Wednesday difficulties.

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Originally posted by Justin:

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Originally posted by Twins12:

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Originally posted by filmkr27:
For the last time, the king of Queens did very well for CBS on Wed when it was moved, so stop saying that CBS can't do well on Wed with comedies, but yes, that was King of Queens.

I went back and looked, and you are totally wrong on King of Queens. It did about 8-8.5 million and a 2.8 or so demo on Wednesdays and 12-13 million and a demo in the 4's on Mondays. Yes, it did do okay compared to all comedies, but it was a shadow of itself on Wednesdays. As stated many times, CBS sitcoms always do worse on other nights. King of Queens just started at higher numbers, so its numbers were okay, but not as good as it usually was, and that is why it was quickly moved back to Mondays. These numbers were from last January and February before DWTS came to Mondays and knocked down all CBS sitcom ratings.

The last time CBS did acceptable, yet not outstanding, on Wednesdays was the pair of King of Queens and Becker which only lasted a year. Other than that The Nanny was the only real successful Wednesday comedy series for CBS. If anyone has noticed, CBS Wednesdays used to be pretty week until CSI: NY came along and used to skew around 19 million, but now, it's fading quickly.

The only way comedies would survive on Wednesday is if you put Two and a Half Men there, but once you move it away from Monday, then Monday will have an issue, and we all have learned from ABC that excessively moving shows around causes large viewer loss, so that wouldn't be a smart move. CBS just needs one more comedy that is a hit and can stand on its own, and there is a chance How I Met Your Mother is that comedy.

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I didn't like the first ep of Fear itself so did not return, anyone else been watching and think the quality has gotten better?
For whatever reason, people keep tuning in over and over again, but most of what I have read on other message boards has indicated that every episode has stunk. I quit watching after the first as NBC chose that episode to represent the best the show had to offer.

It sucked for the first two weeks, but last night the episode was pretty good. You should check it out on NBC's website.

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Originally posted by hermitme:

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Supernatural (Viewers: 1.92 million; A18-49: 0.6/ 2), which will not benefit once Smallville ends.[QUOTE]

I don't know Marc. I think Supernatural has outgrown it's dependence on Smallville and I don't feel it will matter either way. Supernatural may survive or not, but I don't think the absence of Smallville will have either positive or negative effect on Supernatural.

You're right. Good lead in or none, Supernatural still does its mediocre 2.8 million or so. It won't be hurt at all. They should just move it up to 8pm next March once Smallville is done and give Reaper a shot at 9pm.