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Overall: Great news for Boston Legal. Sad to see the continuous struggle for Til Death and modest to solid overall CBS and NBC. Farmer Wants a Wife shows more promise than recent CW reality premieres.

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Don't you think 8:00 Wednesdays is a good spot for CBS to open up a new hour of sitcoms next season ? I think they could do well against the other networks, and do better than anything CBS has put on in that hour this season.

I agree that is a prime location for CBS to branch out with their 'glut' of sitcom offerings. The sitcoms would have to do as well as Kid Nation, Big Brother, and Price is Right in the ratings AND the sitcoms would have some potential to reach syndication where their is some aftermarket income.

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Overall: Great news for Boston Legal. Sad to see the continuous struggle for Til Death and modest to solid overall CBS and NBC. Farmer Wants a Wife shows more promise than recent CW reality premieres.

Great news for BL? Why? As usual it's hard to know with these overnights but given the fact that WMC got (with DWTS's overrun) a 5.7 this number would mean around 7 million. And we know it skewes old so the demo will be around 2.
So where is the good news?

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Overall: Great news for Boston Legal. Sad to see the continuous struggle for Til Death and modest to solid overall CBS and NBC. Farmer Wants a Wife shows more promise than recent CW reality premieres.

Great news for BL? Why? As usual it's hard to know with these overnights but given the fact that WMC got (with DWTS's overrun) a 5.7 this number would mean around 7 million. And we know it skewes old so the demo will be around 2.
So where is the good news?

Hmm maybe the fact that it will likely do almost as good as WMC with half to less than half the lead in and it grew out of the lead in by 27%. When BL was pulling in 4s in the overnights, it was in 7 million viewer range. I expect it to hit 8 million viewers and anything above a 2.0 in the demo will mean it at least held the lead in.

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I agree. The big question is which ones to move. I am not so sure that Old Christine and/or Rules of Engagement could actually survive without the Two and Half Men lead in.

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I can ban people, and I have in the past, but this forum is for all types of opinions. JUst try to be nice, okay Walter?

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Originally posted by Pam:
Is there anyway we can ban Walter from this forum ?
I'm all for freedom expressing opnions and I too am guilty of getting paranoid at times but this guy has taken being rude to an all new level .
I understand he hates Moonlight and have no issues with that but his posts are always arguementive and disrespectful.

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Originally posted by Pam:
Is there anyway we can ban Walter from this forum ?
I'm all for freedom expressing opnions and I too am guilty of getting paranoid at times but this guy has taken being rude to an all new level .
I understand he hates Moonlight and have no issues with that but his posts are always arguementive and disrespectful.

I agree he has really become obnoxious. and keeps on with the oneliners if he wants to attack a show and person who likes that show
And this really proves it:

Be careful Mredman might attack you. Wink


Walter

Be nice and say sorry. Because i have seen several times that you are exactly the same way if you likes a show

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How old are you Walter? Bring some light to this mystery

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Do you really think we'll get the correct answer? People lie all the time, on the internet, about what they look like and their age.

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How old are you Walter? Bring some light to this mystery

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Do you really think we'll get the correct answer? People lie all the time, on the internet, about what they look like and their age.

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How old are you Walter? Bring some light to this mystery

I'm not lieing i was Born July 22, 1993.

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Originally posted by robert:
How old are you Walter? Bring some light to this mystery

I'm 14,

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But you are basing all this on a couple of weeks for A18-49, and just after the CW spent more on the mid-season return of GG than it ever did for Reaper.

You keep complaining about how much money was spent on GG (I'm still waiting for anyone to give a number on that. I didn't see one off-network ad, so everything I saw was media generated 'free' advertising due to the 'controversy'). In any case, the money has been spent. It makes no sense to claim that CW should ignore the superior ratings becasue they 'bought them'. When it comes time for renewing shows for next year, how much was spent last year is almost irrelevant. All that matters is what viewer/demo/advertising income is projected for next year.

I have actually seen ads for GG on other networks; ABC, MTV, and the N network. So, they are showing them off network.

Peace!

Since Viacom owns MTV and The N and has a 50% stake in The CW, there was most likely some sort of co-op promotion deal at work there. I can't imagine that ABC ran promos for The CW, unless it was ABC Family--the cable arm of ABC. And even then it would not have had any 'geography' in the spots, not even Monday night. Something like "Check local listings".

No it was not on the ABC family channel. Here in New Mexico, the locals channels come from El Paso, so they show promos from ANTM, FNS, SV, OTH, GG, and Reaper. They have not aired ones for SN, EHC, AIA, and the other shows. Most of them are aired during daytime, but they still are being aired. And sometimes they air Check Your Local Listings or the day and time the shows are airing have been mentioned.

Ok...so when they advertise a show for the CW on a local affiliate, marketing/promotional money is not used, correct? Ok, that is interesting to know.

Peace!!

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Even with a duopoly, I'd be shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED if the ABC affiliate promoted a prime time show on The CW against its own prime time. It's just not done in Promoland. At best, there would be cross promotion for local programming, but not for prime. ABC still pays its affiliates network compensation. The CW doesn't. And if ABC found out that they were using their airtime to promote competing prime time programming, they'd make adjustments to the comp. Depending on market size,the comp can be the difference between profitability and not.

I see it here with our two major duopolies. LIN Broadcasting owns the CBS and MyTV affiliates and Tribune has the CW and FOX affiliates.

You don't see a lot of them, but you will occationally see a cross promo

Not sure what the Network can do to limit local ad time. I remember back a few olympics when COKE had an exclusive deal to be the only soft drink sponsor for the Network broadcasts. Pepsi went out and bought ad time with the local stations to air their commercial during olympic coverage.

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Originally posted by Native NYer:
Since Viacom owns MTV and The N and has a 50% stake in The CW, there was most likely some sort of co-op promotion deal at work there. I can't imagine that ABC ran promos for The CW, unless it was ABC Family--the cable arm of ABC. And even then it would not have had any 'geography' in the spots, not even Monday night. Something like "Check local listings".

Just a reminder that Viacom spun off CBS and it is CBS that has the 50% stake in The CW, Not Viacom.

I wonder if the GG spot was a local spot that was on an ABC affiliate, which may also own the local CW affiliate.

I know my CW affiliate here in Michigan is owned by our ABC affiliate. CW61

Even with a duopoly, I'd be shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED if the ABC affiliate promoted a prime time show on The CW against its own prime time. It's just not done in Promoland. At best, there would be cross promotion for local programming, but not for prime. ABC still pays its affiliates network compensation. The CW doesn't. And if ABC found out that they were using their airtime to promote competing prime time programming, they'd make adjustments to the comp. Depending on market size,the comp can be the difference between profitability and not.

Here the CW is a digital sub of the NBC affiliate. Cdub ads air throughout the day for what's airing that night on the CW sub and what is coming up in recent weeks. Its usually 100% for the primetime stuff with the daytime fair mainly getting promoted on the network itself. I can't recall seeing CW stuff during primetime but most certainly during local news.