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quote: Originally posted by tvchtw: quote: Originally posted by galveston:
Somebody help me. I'm still confused six years later.
What, exactly, is the appeal of American Idol? The person sings...Simon berates them....somebody wins and promptly distances himself/herself as far from American Idol as possible. That's pretty much still the entirety of the American Idol experience, yes? Is there something I missed?
Well I could say that about any show. Whats the deal with Lost, just a bunch of people stuck on an island trying to get off. (I am a fan of Lost btw, just using that as an example) Idol just has something that all other talent type shows lacks, its kind of unexplainable and you just kinda get it or you dont.
You're right but the problem with AI is that it's a huge succes. I wouldn't be surprised if AI would pull 15 million viewers, that's understandable. The mystery for me is why it pulls 30 million. |
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I knew the L&O cast was too good to be true. I was just thinking yesterday how unbelievably solid they are. Now this. I am kind of bothered by Anthony Anderson joining Law & Order. He sucked during his time on SVU (just my opinion); I could be part of a tiny demographic though. Fortunately, L&O is a revolving door so he could be gone just as soon as he came. If anything, they should have moved Belzer to L&O so that they could give him something regular to do.
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I will never understand why AI had more appeal over the revised Star Search. At least with that show, you got to see some new blood every week (and more than just singers) instead of the same old people minus one. I usually watch all of these kinds of shows (Star Search and Nashville Star were more recent examples) but I can't get myself to enjoy Idol. quote: Originally posted by robert: quote: Originally posted by galveston:
Somebody help me. I'm still confused six years later.
What, exactly, is the appeal of American Idol? The person sings...Simon berates them....somebody wins and promptly distances himself/herself as far from American Idol as possible. That's pretty much still the entirety of the American Idol experience, yes? Is there something I missed?
I don't know,i really don't know what's the appeal. I watched the top 12 males (that's the third time i try watching an AI season, the other two times i sytopped after a week) and still find everything very boring. Nothing that catches my attention. Even DWTS which i also think is a bad show is more entertaining than AI
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| Posts: 5957 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 | |
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I liked Anthony Anderson a lot on The Shield. I never saw him on SVU. quote: Originally posted by blackfury:
I knew the L&O cast was too good to be true. I was just thinking yesterday how unbelievably solid they are. Now this. I am kind of bothered by Anthony Anderson joining Law & Order. He sucked during his time on SVU (just my opinion); I could be part of a tiny demographic though. Fortunately, L&O is a revolving door so he could be gone just as soon as he came. If anything, they should have moved Belzer to L&O so that they could give him something regular to do.
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| Posts: 5957 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 | |
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Why doesn't some of CBS' loser shows move to the CW? THey would be huge winners by CW standards. Like give HIMYM, Rules of Engagement, Close to Home (which should not have been canceled), and the Unit to CW to help build their network rather than cancel them. I don't understand why they do not have better programming if they come from CBS. Give them a CSI too, like CSI: Chicago. The group of us here could fix the CW in a week!
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I couldn't agree more. And if--no make that when--the CW fades out forever, I think Fox would be smart to grab "Model." They could run it in the Fall, "Idol" in the Spring. quote: Originally posted by pisher: Developing ANTM for UPN (or at least being in charge of UPN while it was developed) was pretty much Ostroff's sole accomplishment of note, if you want to call it an accomplishment. But even if you do--not such a terribly enduring accomplishment, was it? It really is past time to fire Ostroff. And if that doesn't work, it'll be time to CANCEL THE CW. 
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| Posts: 280 | Location: Upper Manhattan | Registered: 19 September 2006 | |
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None of those shows appeal to the 18 - 34 year demo that the CW craves. I would have thought they would have considered picking up The Class if anything. That show seemed like a decent fit. CSI Chicago! Alright!!! quote: Originally posted by blackfury:
Why doesn't some of CBS' loser shows move to the CW? THey would be huge winners by CW standards. Like give HIMYM, Rules of Engagement, Close to Home (which should not have been canceled), and the Unit to CW to help build their network rather than cancel them. I don't understand why they do not have better programming if they come from CBS. Give them a CSI too, like CSI: Chicago. The group of us here could fix the CW in a week!
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| Posts: 5957 | Location: Chicago, IL | Registered: 20 September 2006 | |
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quote: Originally posted by robert: quote: Originally posted by galveston:
Somebody help me. I'm still confused six years later.
What, exactly, is the appeal of American Idol? The person sings...Simon berates them....somebody wins and promptly distances himself/herself as far from American Idol as possible. That's pretty much still the entirety of the American Idol experience, yes? Is there something I missed?
I don't know,i really don't know what's the appeal. I watched the top 12 males (that's the third time i try watching an AI season, the other two times i sytopped after a week) and still find everything very boring. Nothing that catches my attention. Even DWTS which i also think is a bad show is more entertaining than AI
I don't get it either -- I've never really been into it, but this season I tuned in to see if I'm missing something, but like you guys, I just don't get it. And more than Simon's criticism, these days I absolutely can't stand Paula Abdul's non-sensical babble. I actually mute her parts now, because I could not even bare to listen after a while. She's a mess. And the British version is was based on, Pop Idol, died years ago in England. Finally, Dancing with the Stars is a far more entertaining show to me -- can't wait for it to be back! |
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quote: Originally posted by A.C.: quote: Originally posted by Naleyfanforver:
double ouch for PCD
I can see why BB is doing so bad. I watch for the drama but for the gameplay drama this is just too highschool for me. What are the chances that the big hats will step in and break up the couples quick fast?
What CBS needs to do for the SUMMER edition is to again use the concept of SINGLE people in the house...but no forced pairings...let people hook up normally with who THEY want to be with but still playing just for themselves.
The rumor is that they are supposed to bust the couples up soon (making them playing as individuals- and bringing back some of the evictees to play as individuals too). The couples format was a way for CBS to shorten the season- which they might still (although from my DVR of the show last night the Chenbot mentioned "up to 3 months" when they were talking about Ryan and Jen being seperated- so they might still be planning to go full-length because they have no real Plan "B")... If they keep the couples all the way thru? They'll be done late March. However, I've heard May 6th as a possible finale date- the PR when they went in mentioned 90 days in the house, which from the time they went in (which was before the first show aired) will be May 6th.. |
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quote: Originally posted by weaklink75: quote: Originally posted by A.C.: quote: Originally posted by Naleyfanforver:
double ouch for PCD
I can see why BB is doing so bad. I watch for the drama but for the gameplay drama this is just too highschool for me. What are the chances that the big hats will step in and break up the couples quick fast?
What CBS needs to do for the SUMMER edition is to again use the concept of SINGLE people in the house...but no forced pairings...let people hook up normally with who THEY want to be with but still playing just for themselves.
The rumor is that they are supposed to bust the couples up soon (making them playing as individuals- and bringing back some of the evictees to play as individuals too). The couples format was a way for CBS to possibly shorten the season if they wanted- which they might still (although from my DVR of the show last night the Chenbot mentioned "up to 3 months" when they were talking about Ryan and Jen being seperated- so they might still be planning to go full-length because they have no real Plan "B")... If they keep the couples all the way thru? They'll be done late March. However, I've heard May 6th as a possible finale date- the PR when they went in mentioned 90 days in the house, which from the time they went in (which was before the first show aired) will be May 6th..
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Right now, I know that they want a certain coveted demographic, but they should start by getting any demographic to watch their shows!!! quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: None of those shows appeal to the 18 - 34 year demo that the CW craves. I would have thought they would have considered picking up The Class if anything. That show seemed like a decent fit. CSI Chicago! Alright!!! quote: Originally posted by blackfury:
Why doesn't some of CBS' loser shows move to the CW? THey would be huge winners by CW standards. Like give HIMYM, Rules of Engagement, Close to Home (which should not have been canceled), and the Unit to CW to help build their network rather than cancel them. I don't understand why they do not have better programming if they come from CBS. Give them a CSI too, like CSI: Chicago. The group of us here could fix the CW in a week!
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quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: None of those shows appeal to the 18 - 34 year demo that the CW craves. I would have thought they would have considered picking up The Class if anything. That show seemed like a decent fit. CSI Chicago! Alright!!! CW should've picked up some canceled CBS shows even if they wouldnt've been the "teen shows" CW craves about. The Class is a perfect exaample quote: Originally posted by blackfury:
Why doesn't some of CBS' loser shows move to the CW? THey would be huge winners by CW standards. Like give HIMYM, Rules of Engagement, Close to Home (which should not have been canceled), and the Unit to CW to help build their network rather than cancel them. I don't understand why they do not have better programming if they come from CBS. Give them a CSI too, like CSI: Chicago. The group of us here could fix the CW in a week!
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Even if they move those shows from CBS to the CW, they wouldn't bring along the ratings they had while airing on CBS. The CW has a far smaller reach, far smaller advertising platform, and the ratings of ANTM is about as high they can get without significantly altering who they are (stations, reach, etc). quote: Originally posted by blackfury: Right now, I know that they want a certain coveted demographic, but they should start by getting any demographic to watch their shows!!! quote: Originally posted by xwiseguyx: None of those shows appeal to the 18 - 34 year demo that the CW craves. I would have thought they would have considered picking up The Class if anything. That show seemed like a decent fit. CSI Chicago! Alright!!! quote: Originally posted by blackfury:
Why doesn't some of CBS' loser shows move to the CW? THey would be huge winners by CW standards. Like give HIMYM, Rules of Engagement, Close to Home (which should not have been canceled), and the Unit to CW to help build their network rather than cancel them. I don't understand why they do not have better programming if they come from CBS. Give them a CSI too, like CSI: Chicago. The group of us here could fix the CW in a week!
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quote: Originally posted by Chimera: quote: Originally posted by robert: quote: Originally posted by galveston:
Somebody help me. I'm still confused six years later.
What, exactly, is the appeal of American Idol? The person sings...Simon berates them....somebody wins and promptly distances himself/herself as far from American Idol as possible. That's pretty much still the entirety of the American Idol experience, yes? Is there something I missed?
I don't know,i really don't know what's the appeal. I watched the top 12 males (that's the third time i try watching an AI season, the other two times i sytopped after a week) and still find everything very boring. Nothing that catches my attention. Even DWTS which i also think is a bad show is more entertaining than AI
I don't get it either -- I've never really been into it, but this season I tuned in to see if I'm missing something, but like you guys, I just don't get it. And more than Simon's criticism, these days I absolutely can't stand Paula Abdul's non-sensical babble. I actually mute her parts now, because I could not even bare to listen after a while. She's a mess. And the British version is was based on, Pop Idol, died years ago in England. Finally, Dancing with the Stars is a far more entertaining show to me -- can't wait for it to be back!
The only thing somewhat entertaining was Cowell's criticism. The other two so called judges have a problem with me: i don't understand what they're saying. I need subtitles |
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